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Trusting big companies with your information

  • 25-09-2013 02:13PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭


    "Please enter your dialling code followed by your phone number.
    Required in case we need to contact you about your account"


    How about "no!" Ebay?

    Oh wait. They need that or your credit card details to confirm a new account.

    Bollix.

    How trusting are you in sharing information like this with big companies?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Are you using Chrome and Microsoft? If so you are trusting big corps with a lot of sensitive info.

    I am pretty trusting, even have my card stored on a site or two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Iano_128


    biko wrote: »
    Are you using Chrome and Microsoft? If you are trusting big corps with a lot f sensitive info.

    I am pretty trusting, even have my card stored on a site or two.

    I'm the same! Hopefully the day never comes when I live to regret it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Not a f*cking chance am I giving my phone number to any website. Ever. I trust eBay not to rob my credit card and I know I can get some redress if they do. If they sell my phone number to advertising gobsh!tes - or even just spam me with their own sh!te - there's a lot less you can do about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I don't really mind having my credit card stored on amazon, paypal and ebay, think they're the only ones I have it on. Rarely ever give out my phone number though, I have an old spare prepay sim I just use that if something needs a contact number that isn't important.

    "facebook would like to use your number" ehhh, no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,923 ✭✭✭Wossack


    logging into xbox live thingy the other day (poxy gta)

    gis an email address to confirm your account
    ok, email address looks good, but just to be sure, gis a phone number there too, you'll get a txt, and just enter that number here
    ok, that phone number was grand. Gis another phone number..

    ffs - expect the stool sample in the post microfscks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    After Sony got hacked I'll never put my credit card on a games console again, just buy the psn cards in a shop and enter the code


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 326 ✭✭Savoir.Faire


    Tesco, Google, Facebook. They all know loads about you. More than you'd think.

    The concept of privacy has changed enormously in 15 years. We have less of it. The future of privacy, and what a wider society even understands about the concept is a debate that will become ever more important.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    Good point OP. I was updating apps on my smartphone the other day and an ebay update wanted access to use my camera, WTF:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    I dont care, all these companies just want the info to try customise ads and crap which I block anyway and cards details to verify identity. If they get hacked they get hacked, probably less likely than someone stealing your credit card from your pocket truth be told.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,926 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Back in the days before Paypal, the only way you could really buy from sites was to provide them with your credit card number.

    So dodgy when I look back on it now.

    I never do anything other than Paypal transactions these days.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    When you have no money then it's fairly unimportant who has your bank account details. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Tesco, Google, Facebook. They all know loads about you. More than you'd think.

    The concept of privacy has changed enormously in 15 years. We have less of it. The future of privacy, and what a wider society even understands about the concept is a debate that will become ever more important.

    Yeah exactly, it's not a coincidence if you use a tesco clubcard then vouchers for stuff you buy every week start appearing. They're monitoring everything.

    Facebook knows your browsing history, if you have facebook open amongst other tabs, it knows what you're looking at.

    Look at boards, it's not a coincidence a thread about a particular subject has ads relating to that subject appearing (for those yet to discover adblocker)

    EVERYTHING you do online is monitored in some sort of way, everything. Mostly its all innocent enough stuff, "hey you looked up blah on amazon, here's some stuff you might like" etc etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Back in the days before Paypal, the only way you could really buy from sites was to provide them with your credit card number.

    So dodgy when I look back on it now.

    I never do anything other than Paypal transactions these days.
    I used to use Paypal and then recently got an email saying there was a problem with my account. Thinking it'd be hacked or something, I logged in to find that they had "limited" my account until I send them either a copy of my passport or a utility bill to prove I exist. I decided I may as well just close the account as there's f*ck all chance of me given them anything, but they won't let me until I prove I exist.

    I also got the Xbox thing above, asking for emails and phone numbers. I have a couple of emails addresses I use for spam, so used them. There seems to be a sudden increase in trying to get details from people or else making their online lives difficult.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    The best are people who rabble on about big companies using their data, and then have no problem chucking up all their goings on / details on Facebook for everyone to see...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    The best are people who rabble on about big companies using their data, and then have no problem chucking up all their goings on / details on Facebook for everyone to see...

    That makes me laugh too, people who have their entire facebook account open for anyone to see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    I have a debit card for buying stuff online. Only put money onto it when I want to buy something.

    As for my personal details, I'm sure you could find stuff out about me but I don't think there's anything you couldn't find out if you just got talking to me in a bar.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Not a f*cking chance am I giving my phone number to any website. Ever. I trust eBay not to rob my credit card and I know I can get some redress if they do. If they sell my phone number to advertising gobsh!tes - or even just spam me with their own sh!te - there's a lot less you can do about it.

    Id give my mobile before Id give my credit card through paranoia of being hacked on a wireless device. Isnt wi-fi supposed to be easy to get into?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭Abigayle


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    "Please enter your dialling code followed by your phone number.
    Required in case we need to contact you about your account"


    How about "no!" Ebay?

    Oh wait. They need that or your credit card details to confirm a new account.

    Bollix.

    How trusting are you in sharing information like this with big companies?
    I use paypal. Phone number only to people I think I can trust :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Abigayle wrote: »
    I use paypal. Phone number only to people I think I can trust :)

    I only give my credit card details to Paypal too, they give me that "middle man" peace of mind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭DanWall


    Every time you apply for a credit card, you are giving them permission to give your details to other organisations that are connected to them. Look at the small print


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭Rho b


    Forget about worrying about giving your personal info. At the end of the day if any of ye use a smart phone then THEY have most of it already.
    Relax 7WZ33w3B8Hw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    A couple of my frequently used sites have my credit card information but it is a re-loadable one, so flip all on it at times. Use a 3V or something similar if you are concerned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭Abigayle


    Ruubot2 wrote: »
    A couple of my frequently used sites have my credit card information but it is a re-loadable one, so flip all on it at times. Use a 3V or something similar if you are concerned.
    I haven't heard that mentioned in a while! are they still around? I know O2 brought out a money card too, not sure how that worked out, just remember them charging mental money for them.

    I thought with banks rolling out the Visa debit cards that would have rendered them pretty much obselete.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Big companies or even the CIA or whoever don't care about YOU or YOUR emails or YOUR phone number. However they do care about what picture your data HELPS to paint. Like it or not, people are similar and behave in similar ways.

    As such, your data is just another row sitting in a database somewhere, and after a while, millions and millions of rows build up and can give remarkable insight into human patterns / behaviours and all that stuff...

    This could become scary when algorithms and technology becomes so advanced, that we enter a Minority Report style dystopian future where INDIVIDUAL behaviour and possible actions are pre-empted based on things you search for (just look at the cops turning up at that dudes house after searching for pressure cookers for a taste of things to come)

    There are of course ways you can mitigate against this. Use alternative search engines and don't record your (or your childrens) every movement on facebook.

    Having said all that, I don't particularly care about entering my phone number or things like that on eBay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    keith16 wrote: »
    This could become scary when algorithms and technology becomes so advanced, that we enter a Minority Report style dystopian future where INDIVIDUAL behaviour and possible actions are pre-empted based on things you search for (just look at the cops turning up at that dudes house after searching for pressure cookers for a taste of things to come)

    If that's the same case we're thinking about then that only happened because the person's boss / co-worker saw the history and rang the cops, the cops had to act on what they were told.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    "Please enter your dialling code followed by your phone number.
    Required in case we need to contact you about your account"


    How about "no!" Ebay?

    Oh wait. They need that or your credit card details to confirm a new account.

    Bollix.

    How trusting are you in sharing information like this with big companies?

    Your online bank has your .. gasp... private bank details.. do you trust them?

    Ebay wants your phone number, because when you leave your ebay logged in somewhere, and someone else orders a ton of stuff, they have to deal with the ****storm afterwards

    that and another hundred scenarios and scams


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Your online bank has your .. gasp... private bank details.. do you trust them?

    Yes but they're .... a bank.

    Quite hard to rob I believe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    The concept of privacy has changed enormously in 15 years.
    The concept hasn't changed. The number of corporations trying to make you think it doesn't matter in the name of their own profits has multiplied exponentially however.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    Friend: "I'd never get a tesco clubcard, I don't want them to who I am and what I'm buying."

    Me: "Do you ever pay with a credit/debit card?"

    Friend: ...

    There is very little privacy these days to be honest.


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