Paying Emergency tax

tfromkerry

Hi can anyone tell me how much Emergency tax i would have to pay on my income in new job . I have given new employer PPs no , but still paying over 35% in tax . Can this be right .

Gross income €390 /€10 per hour @39 hour week .

Net income €248 for a 39 hour week .

I am told i must do this for 6/8 weeks till i get my tax clearance form . i needed to new new one as the revenue stated my old one expired as i was unemployed over 5 years .

So in summary i am asking , Am i (1) overpaying in tax . (2) when will it be repaid and finally who repays in , is it the revenue or my new employer .

Thank in advance of any help .

namenotavailablE

Have you asked your local tax office for a certificate of tax credits and informed them of your employer's address details/ PPS number? If not, do so. Once your employer receives your certificate of tax credits and cut-off details from the tax office you will start to receive a refund in your weekly pay.

To check what a normal payslip should look like on that level of pay, you can download my tax calculator Excel spreadsheet - see the link in my signature below (also available on the 'About me' tab of my profile if you're not logged in to Boards)

tfromkerry

I have done that , and revenue have said it could be anything from 4/6 weeks . on the revenue.ie i got this
if i can reading this right i am vastly over paying .

The Emergency Basis - Tax & USC
2013
Standard Rate of Tax: 20% Higher Rate of Tax: 41%
Where employee does not provide a PPS Number
Week or Month
Cut-Off Point
Tax Credit
All
€0.00
€0.00
Where employee provides a PPS Number
Weekly paid
Weekly
Cut-Off Point
Weekly
Tax Credit
Weeks 1 to 4
€631
€32
Weeks 5 to 8
€631
€0.00
Week 9 onwards
€0.00
€0.00
Monthly Paid
Monthly
Cut-Off Point
Monthly
Tax Credit
Month 1
€2,734
€138
Month 2
€2,734
€0.00
Month 3 onwards
€0.00
€0.00
Variations on the above figures: 2013
Cut-Off Point Tax Credits
4-Weekly 32,800 / 13 = 2,524 1,650 / 13 = 127
Twice-Monthly 32,800 / 24 = 1,367 1,650 / 24 = 69
Fortnightly 32,800 / 26 = 1,262 1,650 / 26 = 64
2012
Standard Rate of Tax: 20% Higher Rate of Tax: 41%
Where employee does not provide a PPS Number
Week or Month
Cut-Off Point
Tax Credit
All
€0.00
€0.00
Where employee provides a PPS Number
Weekly paid
Weekly
Cut-Off Point
Weekly
Tax Credit
Weeks 1 to 4
€631
€32
Weeks 5 to 8
€631
€0.00
Week 9 onwards
€0.00
€0.00
Monthly Paid
Monthly
Cut-Off Point
Monthly
Tax Credit
Month 1
€2,734
€138
Month 2
€2,734
€0.00
Month 3 onwards
€0.00
€0.00
Universal Social Charge (USC)
2012 & 2013: Emergency Rate of USC = 7%. No cut-off points are allowed. USC

tfromkerry

Cant work out your excel . can you work out my net on a gross of 390 single male 2 kids . and what i should be paying now in emergency tax . thanks if you can

allthedoyles

tfromkerry wrote: »

Cant work out your excel . can you work out my net on a gross of 390 single male 2 kids . and what i should be paying now in emergency tax . thanks if you can

From reading this , I get the feeling you believe its a given right that you pay emergency tax .

This is not the case . - Emergency tax is just a period of grace in which you are given a set of tax credits , while you await a proper cumulative tax credit certificate .

The quickest way to sort it out is to apply online at www.revenue.ie - and register for paye anytime .

tfromkerry

allthedoyles wrote: »

From reading this , I get the feeling you believe its a given right that you pay emergency tax .

This is not the case . - Emergency tax is just a period of grace in which you are given a set of tax credits , while you await a proper cumulative tax credit certificate .

The quickest way to sort it out is to apply online at www.revenue.ie - and register for paye anytime .

That is more or less what i am asking , do i have to pay as much .
I will be waiting for another 4/5 weeks for the tax credit cert and with only €250 a week pay i cant see myself lasting as i spend 50 on travel and with lunch n stuff i cant afford to live and work on €250 . i know i get it repaid however its now i need it :mad:

I dont need to do it online as all the paper work in done and sent away to the revenue both signed by me and employer . i just need to know if my employer is wrong in taking so much before i can go to him and tackle him on it

allthedoyles

Your employer is obliged to start you on emergency while you arrange to notify the tax office about your own change in circumstances .

You alone are responsible for your own tax affairs .

tfromkerry

well if me alone am responsible for my tax affairs why then is my employer paying in my tax ??

allthedoyles

tfromkerry wrote: »

well if me alone am responsible for my tax affairs why then is my employer paying in my tax ??

No- Your employer collects the tax.

You pay the tax - It is deducted from your gross pay .

tfromkerry

Thanks allthedoyes i get you now , still hav,nt properly answered my Op but thanks any ways

allthedoyles

tfromkerry wrote: »

Hi can anyone tell me how much Emergency tax i would have to pay on my income in new job . I have given new employer PPs no , but still paying over 35% in tax . Can this be right .

Gross income €390 /€10 per hour @39 hour week .

Net income €248 for a 39 hour week .

I am told i must do this for 6/8 weeks till i get my tax clearance form . i needed to new new one as the revenue stated my old one expired as i was unemployed over 5 years .

So in summary i am asking , Am i (1) overpaying in tax . (2) when will it be repaid and finally who repays in , is it the revenue or my new employer .

Thank in advance of any help .

To answer your questions :

1. Yes- You are overpaing tax
2. It will be re-paid when you receive a tax credit certificate for 2013 and following years
3. Your new employer will re-pay to you if you receive this tax credit certificate prior to year end ( Last pay day 2013 )

tfromkerry

Thanks too all who replied , and especially namenotavaibl great info and easily explained and gave so much time in replying to me in messages thanks so much and also allthedoyles good info and straight to the point thanks all

rockyroad97

Can anyone help?! I am a student working part time, started two weeks ago! Posted off my tax form the day I started! I know I don't pay PAYE because I earn very little but I am paying the Emergency tax rate of 7% on the USC but I don't understand why?

Citizenpain

Have you received a tax cert in the post yet ?

rockyroad97

Citizenpain wrote: »

Have you received a tax cert in the post yet ?

No I haven't! Does this take long? Or?

Citizenpain

If you ticked the box for electronic communicationit should only be a few days

check that it has your USC bands against the right emplyer when you get it

corcaigh1

allthedoyles wrote: »

To answer your questions :

1. Yes- You are overpaing tax
2. It will be re-paid when you receive a tax credit certificate for 2013 and following years
3. Your new employer will re-pay to you if you receive this tax credit certificate prior to year end ( Last pay day 2013 )

What happens if the employer has not payed you back the withheld emergency tax before the year ends, does the employer have to pay it to you in the new year?

CIARAN_BOYLE

corcaigh1 wrote: »

What happens if the employer has not payed you back the withheld emergency tax before the year ends, does the employer have to pay it to you in the new year?

Nope you have to claim it from Revenue.

corcaigh1

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Nope you have to claim it from Revenue.

Ok, When can it be claimed and how long does it take generally?

beechwood55

When you get your P60 from your employer (which you should get sometime in January) you can log onto the Revenue website and ask for a p21 balancing statement. This will trigger the refund of your overpayment of tax. In my experience it takes about 5 days to get the refund. Revenue are pretty efficient.

CIARAN_BOYLE

beechwood55 wrote: »

When you get your P60 from your employer (which you should get sometime in January) you can log onto the Revenue website and ask for a p21 balancing statement. This will trigger the refund of your overpayment of tax. In my experience it takes about 5 days to get the refund. Revenue are pretty efficient.

Employer has till 23 February to do the filings that will enable you to claim a refund.