Did you ever get the belt?

Henders

Did you ever get the belt from your mum/dad?Where parents right or wrong for using it in the 70's/80's? Should more parents use it today? Would love to hear comments and help conclude a debate that has been raging for the last hour!

Seachmall

Henders wrote: »

Should more parents use it today?

Why?

Crime is lower and more children are reaching third level education.

Clearly the belt has no obvious social impact. In terms of 'household obedience' I'd imagine it's the same.

It appears it does little but make the parent feel better.

Jimoslimos

Worse...I got braces

glaston

I did get the belt and I never really thought it was a problem, but....
Now I have three nieces, the thought of hitting them seems a bit barbaric tbh.
Any time I see an adult slapping a child its just looks like they're doing it out of frustration.

BillyMitchel

It was the slipper in my house. Always so funny though that when my oul one caught us, we'd be on the ground laughing covering out face from the smelly slipper.

Celly Smunt

I got the spoon.

Kylo Ren

My dad was a Shaolin monk. He gave me all my belts, including my black one.

lkionm

I got the Hurley and the wooden spoon and this was off my mother in the late 90s

The Backwards Man

I was a well-behaved child.

Cork24

Got the flying shoe ever so often. Never got the spoon.

Henders

My father was a big fan of the belt. Me ma preferred the wooden spoon. Whether it was belt or spoon it hurt like hell. It got results though at the time! Don't think its used much these days at all. Parents would never get away with it!

stimpson

I look forward to the day that hitting your kids becomes as acceptable as hitting your wife.

The Pheasant2

I got the spoon, hold nothing against my parents for it though - sometimes there's only one thing kids understand

Ruu

Nope, Irish mammy weapon of choice was the wooden spoon and also pulling the car over the side of the road with the threat of a Sally rod!

Son Of A Vidic

Seachmall wrote: »

Crime is lower and more children are reaching third level education.

So crime and anti-social behaviour is much lower today? Would you have a comparative set of stats/data from the 70's - 80's - 90's - 00's right up to today, to back that up that claim?

I didn't get the belt, but I got the wooden spoon across the back of the legs and arse. Needless to say, it didn't happen very much because I quickly realised that bad behaviour was not wise. It thought me not to be acting like a little kunt.

Amazingly enough, I never needed counselling or suffered any long term damage of any kind. When I acted the prick I got a smack and rightly so. I had two amazing parents and the only regret I have today, is that they are now passed away.

Henders

I didn't get the belt, but I got the wooden spoon across the back of the legs and arse. Needless to say, it didn't happen very much because I quickly realised that bad behaviour was not wise. It thought me not to be acting like a little kunt.


I think I'm with you on this one! There is a lot of things a whole lot worse that my dad could have done to me than taking his belt to my behind! I don't care how controversial it is but I'm putting it out there, if more parents took this approach to discipline we might see a lot less antisocial behaviour, underage drinking, drugs, teen pregnancy and the complete lack of respect for anyone that we see in a lot ( not all but certainly a lot) of youngsters today!

gerrybbadd

I often got a dose of the spoon across the arse from me mother, or across the backs of the legs... one wail per word! "Don't *smack* do *smack* that *smack* again *SMACK*

Rho b

Henders wrote: »

Did you ever get the belt from your mum/dad?Where parents right or wrong for using it in the 70's/80's? Should more parents use it today? Would love to hear comments and help conclude a debate that has been raging for the last hour!

Don't know where you get the idea that crime is lower today. Any stats to back that up.
My mam used the wooden spoon. Got a few smacks of it on the arse and I soon learned to equate bad behaviour with the wooden spoon :eek:
My dad never had to put a finger on us - mam was the disciplinarian in our house.

Seachmall

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Would you have a comparative set of stats/data from the 70's - 80's - 90's - 00's right up to today, to back that up that claim?

No.

Wilberto

I got the Wooden Spoon across my fingers any time I was "caught" giving the middle finger. However, it gave my older brothers great enjoyment lieing to my mother about me doing it and causing me to get smacked across my fingers for no reason. 10 times each time.


Many a wooden spoon our mother broke off us. But at least the resulting broken handle was still useful for stirring paint.

Jiggers77

My father would have worn out a good few belts on my arse growing up in the 80's. I don't resent him for it and it didn't really do me any harm but it's not something I would do to my kids!

Zen65

No, I never recall getting the belt. I think my Dad's trousers would have fallen down if he removed his belt to use it, and he was not the kind of person to have a second belt in the house.

demanufactured

Yep I've been wwe champion 3 times now.

godwin

The whippy ash branch , my mam needed it though to keep us in check , I'm from a large family(11)

princess-lala

Wooden spoons were bought on a weekly basis in my house as a child :pac:

WoollyRedHat

No, but I once had dreams of becoming a professional wrestler. I even had a mask made out of my mother stockings... and dubbed myself The Black Man... I was young and foolish at the time.

Sgt. Al Powell

If I did something wrong, used to have to take down my pajamas and take a few whacks of the wooden spoon, even if there were visitors in the house. Used to feel so mortified. Eventually my best mate said I shouldn't really be letting my wife put me though that kind of humiliation and we broke up.

Frito

Never got the belt but that's probably cos me dad didn't wear them.
Got hit with anything that was to hand...shoes, slippers, hairbrushes, wooden spoons, but the worst thing ever to get hit with was a wet tea-towel. Ooh it stung to buggery.

tadonnen

http://www.crimecouncil.gov.ie/statistics_cri_crime_table3.html

# of crimes per year. Unfortunately it's raw numbers rather than per capita.

Volume of crime does indeed appear to be trending downward from the mid 80s on.

aaabbbb

Was usually the slipper for me in the late 90's. I really wouldn't advocate or condone it in the slightest and I'm really glad that times have moved on since then.

I feel it never did me any good , I never really understood why I was being hit especially as a very young child and all it ever taught me from a very young age was it was ok to lash out and hit people when you're angry or frustrated.

This definitely bit my parents, well my Mum really in the ass as I got older and was more capable and less afraid to fight back. Which has also caused major problems for me as I've grown up and become an adult. As I was never really given the opportunity growing up as a child at home to express how I felt when I became angry or frustrated or how to counter argue another person's argument or point but instead I learnt it was ok and more significantly normal to throw things around , scream and shout , hit people and just behave in a generally violent and aggressive manner.

I also feel it damaged my relationship with my Mum a little bit, while although she was very loving did her best to ensure I was provided with everything she felt I needed etc. The fact she would lash out occasionally when she got angry or frustrated with me and I didn't understand why meant I took it very personally and found it hard to bond with her.

SimonQuinlank

Yeah got the belt and or a few digs from my Dad in the 90's regularly enough for not going to school.Didn't really work,though I understand that he did it out of pure frustration.

FameHungry

Nope. I got the wooden spoon though...

Allyall

The Wooden Spoon.
Always. Loads of them broke over my legs.

Chased around the kitchen table or the dining room table, always to eventually get caught, she never gave up.:( She was good
Although i don't hold it against my mother, on more than one occasion my brother got involved and caught me. :mad:
One time i got the thing for turning fried eggs etc.. (Spatula?) steel one.. Owww.. That stung like bejaysus, i never forgot it, i didn't speak to anyone in the house for a week, and it was never used again.

ronan45

My Mam used the wooden spoon but when my dad couldnt find the belt he used a wire hanger, Hated the wire hanger. He would twist it up into like long shank and give you three of the best ! :mad:

gobnaitolunacy

The wooden spoon, for some reason was the weapon of choice.

Snapped it in two once, all hell broke loose.

whiskeyman

We got the potato masher.
Mum kept losing the wooden spoon.

Stojkovic

The Flying Slipper in our gaff ;

http://youtu.be/IGkNzbRDvKs

Savoir.Faire

ronan45 wrote: »

My Mam used the wooden spoon but when my dad couldnt find the belt he used a wire hanger, Hated the wire hanger. He would twist it up into like long shank and give you three of the best ! :mad:

That sounds horrific.

Dyr

I got many belts


But never with a belt

I got the slipper and wooden spoon, I was a brat though so I wouldn't hold it against me ma. I'd do something just because I was told not to !

I don't think a slap is bad at all. We live in too much of a politically correct society where we're afraid to upset the do gooders when we should be more concentrated on doing what's best for the Children.

Beating is unacceptable and slapping for no reason or when another way can be found.

Also the most important of all, slapping a Child is wrong if the parent does not know how to correctly discipline a child or allows the child to do whatever it wants and that being the result of it's bad behaviour , this is the key difference and what the do gooders fail to understand.

A lot of problems today though is because parents don't care what their Children get up to and allow them to hang around in gangs or let the streets rear them ar allow them to hang around friends that are not so nice.

The do gooders may have been beaten as Children and see slapping as unacceptable and this whole movement of no slapping may not always be in the best interests of the Child.

I don't think anyone including the state has the right to question a parent in the way they bring up or discipline their Children unless it's clear that there is Neglect and/or abuse, this is different, but in most cases others, including the State should mind their own business.

BeerWolf

No, but I got the wooden spoon!

Dyr

Stojkovic wrote: »

The Flying Slipper in our gaff ;

http://youtu.be/IGkNzbRDvKs

My ma once flung at a wooden clog at my brother

In fairness he was a college student at the time and a poxbottle

cletus van damme

was battered all through my childhood.

father used his fists and the spoon or anything that came to hand.
mother used the spoon sparingly cos she preferred hairpulling and pinching.
She had a great technique (kinda marvel at it now in a weird way) where she would pinch your arm , twist it and lift.
It was a fcuking killer.

often thought about giving my dad a kicking just to get revenge but never seemed fair on him being older now , sounds odd must be my martial arts training.

plus we get on better , never forgiven them but kinda tolerate them now they seem better people.

Think they have their own mental issues and oddly for such a violent family they rarely drank.

BeerWolf

cletus van damme wrote: »

was battered all through my childhood.

father used his fists and the spoon or anything that came to hand.
mother used the spoon sparingly cos she preferred hairpulling and pinching.
She had a great technique (kinda marvel at it now in a weird way) where she would pinch your arm , twist it and lift.
It was a fcuking killer.

often thought about giving my dad a kicking just to get revenge but never seemed fair on him being older now , sounds odd must be my martial arts training.

plus we get on better , never forgiven them but kinda tolerate them now they seem better people.

Think they have their own mental issues and oddly for such a violent family they rarely drank.

They're sadists...

No, never

5starpool

The sally rod was my mothers weapon of choice way back in the day. Mostly it was just threat, but occasionally if we didn't shut up and go to sleep (I shared a room with my brother) she would leather the hell out of us, but considering we were under about 5 heavy blankets it was mostly the noise of it as you couldn't really feel it. The noise was terrifying though to a kid. The occasional whack on the back of the legs with it was the actual worst of it. The threat was usually enough to send me running and stop whatever I was doing to incur wrath.

niallb

whiskeyman wrote: »

Mum kept losing the wooden spoon.

My mum kept losing the wooden spoon too...
I got into fierce trouble when we moved house and they realised the old piano had half a dozen wooden spoons dropped down inside it :-)

anncoates

Occasionally got the slipper or my ma's Scholl sandal but never to a beating extent: just a few whacks on the arse or leg. It was always heat of the moment (I really was a bold, cheeky little bollocks at times) which actually seemed better as I'd hate the idea of that premeditated, methodical Gonna Give You a Paddling type of punishment.

Don't hold it against her at all although nowadays she hates the thought that she ever did it.

I have two pretty high-spirited/boisterous boys and would give then a smack on the arse/hand/leg the odd time as a last resort but as they get older, I rarely do it as I find withholding their treats: swimming, trips, tablet/N3DS etc which sits better with me because no - normal - parent is exactly going round feeling ecstatic because they smacked their child.

biko

No, but I got a pair of gloves one Christmas.
And I wanted Lego

wmpdd3

yes. all of the above. didn't work.

if i was going to get the belt for a minor thing then i may as well duck off school and get the bus to cork for the day. same punishment.

seamus

tadonnen wrote: »

http://www.crimecouncil.gov.ie/statistics_cri_crime_table3.html

# of crimes per year. Unfortunately it's raw numbers rather than per capita.

Volume of crime does indeed appear to be trending downward from the mid 80s on.

In graph form, attached. The proportion of headline crimes (murders, etc) has remained fairly static since the mid-80's, but crime overall since then has been on a steady downward trend.

It's still hard to draw any solid conclusions from the data since the method of recording and public attitudes to reporting crime will have changed a lot over time; people will be more likely to report crime now than in the 80's or the 50's; individual Gardai would be more likely to record small incidents than they would previously have been.