Has society killed the strong silent type?

Zed Bank

Me being the typical introvert has noticed this lately. Quite guys are considered to be psychopaths and/or a creep. Is this the age of the chatterbox extrovert? I honestly don't think Clint Eastwood or master chief would make it today. Or am I just not pulling it off right?

jazz101

Eugh.. something creepy about this thread. I'm out.

Mr McBoatface

Zed Bank wrote: »

Me being the typical introvert has noticed this lately. Quite guys are considered to be psychopaths and/or a creep. Is this the age of the chatterbox extrovert? I honestly don't think Clint Eastwood or master chief would make it today. Or am I just not pulling it off right?

You don't have a web-cam so can't see what way you're pulling it.

Frosty McSnowballs

Johnny tightlips ain't sayin' nothin'.

Frank Lee Midere

http://www.ted.com/talks/susan_cain_the_power_of_introverts.html

Ihatecuddles-old

I know loads of strong silent types, I find it really endearing.

JCabot

Society has split and is mostly online and I think this is the wrong place to ask that. These places are full of opioniated geeks comfortably hiding in there parents home with a diet coke secure in the knowledge that no one can ever find there IP address.

And they don't like the strong silent types

manonboard

Op, I think by thier very nature. They tend not be publicised and therefore appear missing/hidden...

Until you come against one and you realise you hold none of the cards in comparison.

I've met some in my life, Great people. Usually wouldnt even defend themselves, and then a truth comes out that vindicates them entirely and they barely crack a smirk. I imagine they have such self respect or strong identity that they don't consider who knows it or not. I envy that.

Brian_Zeluz

Zed Bank wrote: »

Quite guys

What's a quite guy?

kc90

Brian_Zeluz wrote: »

What's a quite guy?

:rolleyes:

Fairly obvious from the subject of the OP, he meant quiet.

AnonoBoy

The weak silent type don't get much good press these days either.

Daveysil15

AnonoBoy wrote: »

The weak silent type don't get much good press these days either.

Maybe that's the type the OP has been noticing.

wendell borton

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Starscream25

Ya i agree, I've always believed who talks or spews the most ****e, whoever can talk the talk, whoevers the loudest have a great ability to get people on their side, to persuade people to brainwash into their way of thinking.politics is a great example of this, but I suppose politics isn't the area for a humble quite man to be. It seems to me that to be more socially acceptable one has to go down the line of becoming one or like those loose women sort types.

Lawrence1895

I don't say anything without my solicitor

Wibbs

The characters Clint Eastwood played weren't exactly introverts. Extroverts plus a gazillion I would have thought.

The "strong silent type" wouldn't necessarily have to be an introvert either. Plus quite the number of "loud" social people are actually introverts and it's a well constructed mask.

There's also a difference between being socially quiet and being socially rude and IMHO claiming "introvert" in such circumstances is a crock.

wendell borton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kh7NcJ9xoY

Miss Lockhart

I do think western society has stigmatised introverts and quiet people.

I see the quiet types overlooked and written off as weird all the time.
I'm very much introverted but I'm by no means shy or quiet. I get along fine in social situations but the fact I prefer to spend most of my time alone is deemed suspect.

steve_wonder

the rise of feminism has resulted in the traditional man and traditional masculine traits , being potrayed as at best , problematic and in need of serious reform and at worst , psychopathic and all out dangerous


if this trend continues , I can see other cultures devouring us in the future , of course liberals in Europe appear to be simultaneously cheering on the destruction of traditional man while at the same time defending fiercely conservative man in other cultures

Fukuyama

Been accused of this although never in a good way.

I'm introverted. I like talking to my friends but after a day of hanging out I'm worn out and need to be alone for a day or two. Not shut away in a room somewhere. I could be around college or whatever but I won't be social. Stick to the library for a while.

I also hate small talk which leads me to remaining quiet during pointless conversations. Actually, the vast majority of conversations really bore me. But if there's even a hint of an interesting subject you won't be able to shut me up.

I also tend to avoid confrontation unless it's 100% necessary. For example, if someone wrongs me or says something about me behind my back I'll say and do nothing. 9 times out of 10 there's zero point in even reacting.

For the 1 time out of ten when it is I tend to be victorious.

So not really strong or silent. Just I don't really care about the vast majority of people.

You'd be fine being a strong silent type if you were like Ryan Gosling in Drive. Gotta admit, even I found him a little dreamy.

dd972

Society was taken into Garda custody today in suspicion of the Murder of the Strong, Silent Type, he can be held for 36 hours before charges can be brought...

steve_wonder

Deleted User wrote: »

You'd be fine being a strong silent type if you were like Ryan Gosling in Drive. Gotta admit, even I found him a little dreamy.

ryan gosling is a pretty boy ,even Hollywood has outlawed the traditional man , no john wayne or gary coopers nowadays on screen

Jason staham is more of a thug than a strong silent type

People sometimes confuse a strong, silent type, with someone with nothing to say.


No one is going to think you're enigmatic if you're closed off and silent. They'll just think you're either rudely aloof or boring.

average hero

Good observation OP.

The 'strong, silent type' is a character type which is not so prevalent anymore alright. Society seems to have moved to where any one who is in any way strong or victorious has to shout it out to the world and anyone now deemed 'quiet' or 'introverted' is automatically a creep or 'weak' in some aspect.

If someone was to ask me where it came from, I'd say that commercialism and advertising promoting the 'have-it-all and have-it-now' attitude as well as growing narcissism rates and tendencies in the world today.

Reminds me of two bouncers I used to work with. One looked small and meak in his jacket - a little disheveled too perhaps, introverted and never used to deal with customers unless he really had to but was a SERIOUS operator when called upon. The other was large, muscles, loud, and the first to butt in with customers...not so much of a great operator when it hit the fan.

Fukuyama

Candie wrote: »

People sometimes confuse a strong, silent type, with someone with nothing to say.


No one is going to think you're enigmatic if you're closed off and silent. They'll just think you're either rudely aloof or boring.

This is pretty much how I think I appear to other people.

But once they get to know me, and if they're interesting to me and I to them, we almost always become friends or at least acquaintances.

I've known people for years in college but never ran in their social circle. I assume they think I was boring, weird or rude because I never made an effort. I'm comfortable enough with this even though deep down it'd be great if everyone thought I was the bees knees. Ah well.

Quality not quantity when it comes to friends.

markomuscle

Yes the amount of abuse I got at school and the start of college for not talking much was ridiculous.

Frank Lee Midere

Wibbs wrote: »

The characters Clint Eastwood played weren't exactly introverts. Extroverts plus a gazillion I would have thought.

The "strong silent type" wouldn't necessarily have to be an introvert either. Plus quite the number of "loud" social people are actually introverts and it's a well constructed mask.

There's also a difference between being socially quiet and being socially rude and IMHO claiming "introvert" in such circumstances is a crock.

Well. They weren't talkative.

Introversion is fairly common. On some "tests" - Myers Briggs - you are either introvert or extrovert.

In general real extroverts can not ever be alone. And would jump at the chance of public speaking or acting. Fairly rare.

BBDBB

if the introverts are being repressed by the extroverts you'd think they'd speak out about it............wait now

Daveysil15

Deleted User wrote: »

You'd be fine being a strong silent type if you were like Ryan Gosling in Drive. Gotta admit, even I found him a little dreamy.

Ryan Gosling looked more like he had Aspergers in that film. He had a completely blank expression on his face for the entire film.

Femme_Fatale

Charles Bronson was one.

Fukuyama

Introversion =/= shyness.

I almost always find myself leading projects/addressing groups of people etc...

I think introverts are really bored by the mundane. Extroverts tend to get a boost just by talking to other people even if it's just about the weather.

Unless I'm in a good conversation I get bored and feel drained really quickly.

I also hate people who come out with **** ideas for the sake of hearing their own voice.

tommyboy2222

Reality tv and social media such as Twitter and FB have given rise to moronic, vain , attention seeking men.

Daveysil15

tommyboy2222 wrote: »

Reality tv and social media such as Twitter and FB have given rise to moronic, vain , attention seeking men.

Like these gobsheens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ9IMZAci-k

tommyboy2222

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Like these gobsheens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ9IMZAci-k

You read my mind!!!

jazz101

Candie wrote: »

People sometimes confuse a strong, silent type, with someone with nothing to say.


No one is going to think you're enigmatic if you're closed off and silent. They'll just think you're either rudely aloof or boring.

Exactly. Lads need to stop watching so many movies. No one holds you in some esoteric regard for being quiet as hell, it'll either rub them the wrong way or they'll just ignore you.