Halloween/racialism

Elbaston

Whats up vanilla face?

Is it ok to black up for Halloween ??

I think it would be hilarious. I may not even go back, apparently.

Then again maybe its wrong. Who knows ? - you do. Hit me up with your opinion, keep it real.

lahalane

Sounds like a lazy and boring costume but it wouldn't offend me.

TommiesTank

Of course it is. Why wouldn't it be okay?

Links234

I'm not sure

can I ask if you are dressing up as a character who happens to be black, or would your costume just be a black person?

Elbaston

Links234 wrote: »

I'm not sure

can I ask if you are dressing up as a character who happens to be black, or would your costume just be a black person?

Haven't really thought about that.

Perhaps I could be Uncle Ben...like from the rice packet.

Turtyturd

'Black up' as someone who can't use the search function.

Elbaston

Turtyturd wrote: »

'Black up' as someone who can't use the search function.

Howard Juneau

Elbaston wrote: »

Haven't really thought about that.

Perhaps I could be Uncle Ben...like from the rice packet.

You should go as Uncle Tom instead

SV

Not funny to 'dress up' as a black person. Seriously? Not really appropriate either.
If you're dressing up as a black character then fair enough.

xzanti

Oh sweet Jesus.

0ph0rce0

Karl Stein

Yes, because Black people should be subject to ridicule and are merely objects of comedy for us Crackers.

Niggapleeze.

shruikan2553

If you are dressing up as someone who is black and not just your idea is a black person then its ok. But I'm a middle class white man so I dont understand what does and doesnt offend people

BNMC

Turtyturd wrote: »

'Black up' as someone who can't use the search function.

Ain't nobody got time for that!

0ph0rce0

shruikan2553 wrote: »

If you are dressing up as someone who is black and not just your idea is a black person then its ok. But I'm a middle class white man so I dont understand what does and doesnt offend people

Apparently everything these days :rolleyes:

Temptamperu

Its ok since robert downey junior did it in tropic thunder.

discus

Elbaston wrote: »

Whats up vanilla face?

Is it ok to black up for Halloween ??

I think it would be hilarious. I may not even go back, apparently.

Then again maybe its wrong. Who knows ? - you do. Hit me up with your opinion, keep it real.

OP is a legend

Miss Lockhart

discus wrote: »

OP is a legend

You're easily impressed.

Thomas20

I am a transnegro man so i have been living as a black man for two years now, i would take no offense OP.

Elbaston

discus wrote: »

OP is a legend

OP O.G.

Word.

Seriously though, Im not trying for epic legendary-ness, I just think I could prank and surprise some people and make them laugh.

Elbaston

Miss Lockhart wrote: »

You're easily impressed.

Dont you dare say otherwise.

humanji

Elbaston wrote: »

Whats up vanilla face?

Is it ok to black up for Halloween ??

I think it would be hilarious. I may not even go back, apparently.

Then again maybe its wrong. Who knows ? - you do. Hit me up with your opinion, keep it real.

You'll look like someone who was trying too hard to be edgy. Some people may find it funny. Most people will roll their eyes. Nobody will be offended except for those who want to be.

Poor Uncle Tom

Howard Juneau wrote: »

You should go as Uncle Tom instead

Howard Juneau

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

I just snorted a little beer, excellent!

discus

humanji wrote: »

You'll look like someone who was trying too hard to be edgy. Some people may find it funny. Most people will roll their eyes. Nobody will be offended except for those who want to be.

TROLLING

Poor Uncle Tom

Howard Juneau wrote: »

I just snorted a little beer, excellent!

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/snorting-beer-150.jpg

There's probably an easier way....;)

Miss Lockhart

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

But would you be offended?

ireland.man

Elbaston wrote: »

Whats up vanilla face?

Is it ok to black up for Halloween ??

I think it would be hilarious. I may not even go back, apparently.

Then again maybe its wrong. Who knows ? - you do. Hit me up with your opinion, keep it real.

Why don't you ask your black friends if they'd be offended?

Elbaston

ireland.man wrote: »

Why don't you ask your black friends if they'd be offended?

I dont have any black friends.

flandabieduzie

Elbaston wrote: »

I dont have any black friends.

Is it coz they is black!!!!?????

Poor Uncle Tom

Miss Lockhart wrote: »

But would you be offended?

No, genuinely I would see it as taking the piss out of the Minstrel era rather than being a dig at the coloured race.

Fr_Dougal

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

No, genuinely I would see it as taking the piss out of the Minstrel era rather than being a dig at the coloured race.

Coloured...oooohhhh...

sok2005

Mac from It's Always Sunny. That's the only way to pull it off.

Henlars67

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Coloured...oooohhhh...

There is actually a 'coloured' race. They're found mainly in South Africa & Zimbabwe.

There is also an association of African Americans in the states which has several hundred thousand members called the 'National Association for the Advancement of Colored People',whose mission statement is

"To ensure the political, educational, social, and economic equality of rights of all persons and to eliminate racial hatred and racial discrimination."

But of course use of the word 'coloured' is racist

Nodin

Henlars67 wrote: »

There is actually a 'coloured' race. They're found mainly in South Africa & Zimbabwe.

It's Mr "Nothing Is Racist".

There's no such thing as "race" scientifically. The "coloured" in Africa are those of (generally) mixed European and African ancestry.

Henlars67

Nodin wrote: »

It's Mr "Nothing Is Racist".

There's no such thing as "race" scientifically. The "coloured" in Africa are those of (generally) mixed European and African ancestry.

It's the likes of you who think everything is racist who lead to real instances of racism not being taken nearly as seriously as they shouldbe.

I am well aware of the origins of the coloured in Africa.

Nodin

Henlars67 wrote: »

It's the likes of you who think everything is racist who lead to real instances of racism not being taken nearly as seriously as they shouldbe..

I wasn't aware I thought everything was racist. thanks for informing me.

Henlars67 wrote: »

I am well aware of the origins of the coloured in Africa.

...then why did you call them a "race"?

Links234

http://www.lolbrary.com/content/462/black-hitler-14462.gif

Henlars67

Nodin wrote: »

I wasn't aware I thought everything was racist. thanks for informing me.


...then why did you call them a "race"?

Was I being racist by calling them a race? I apologise, I really should have known. Is there anything I can refer to this particular group of people as that will meet your approval and that you won't deem racist?

Nodin

Henlars67 wrote: »

Was I being racist by calling them a race?

No, factually incorrect. If anything, they're an ethnic group.

nlgbbbblth

Henlars67 wrote: »

Was I being racist by calling them a race? I apologise, I really should have known. Is there anything I can refer to this particular group of people as that will meet your approval and that you won't deem racist?

Just call them black and stop making a fuss.

:rolleyes:

Henlars67

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

Just call them black and stop making a fuss.

:rolleyes:

But they aren't black

nlgbbbblth

Henlars67 wrote: »

But they aren't black

My comment was directed more at your

But of course use of the word 'coloured' is racist

Think of James Brown
"Say it loud / I'm black and I'm proud" and you won't go wrong.

Femme_Fatale

I think the reason people object to the term "coloured" is: everyone is a colour. I'm not saying it offends me, just saying that's the reason why non white people don't like it.

Killer Wench

I'm Black and blackface offends me. As do Native mascots that misappropriate Native culture for commercial gain.

Blackface is done as a way to mock black individuals. People exaggerate their speech, pretend like they are jive-brothas talkin' to other jive-brothas. They pull out watermelon, fried chicken, and other stupid stereotypes in order to make their mimicry funnier. It is not done to honor black folk. It certainly isn't done to pay homage to the generations of oppression that many black communities have suffered through. It is the way of the oppressor to continue to oppress the oppressed. My identity means everything to me, but my identity means a joke to you.

It's buffoonery.

Niall Keane

So it's Halloween
And you feel like dancin'
And you feel like shinin'
And you feel like letting loose

Whatcha gonna be
Babe, you better know
And you better plan
Better plan all day

Better plan all week
Better plan all month
Better plan all year

You're dressed up like a clown
Putting on your act
It's the only time all year
You'll ever admit that

I can see your eyes
I can see your brain
Baby, nothing's changed


You're still hiding in a mask
You take your fun seriously
No, don't blow this year's chance
Tomorrow your mold goes back on

After Halloween

You go to work today
You'll go to work tomorrow
****faced tonight
You'll brag about it for months

Remember what I did
Remember what I was
Back on Halloween

But what's in between
Where are your ideas
You sit around and dream
For next Halloween

Why not everyday
Are you so afraid
What will people say


After Halloween

Because your role is planned for you
There's nothing you can do
But stop and think it through
But what will the boss say to you

And what will your girlfriend say to you
And the people out on the street they might glare at you
And whadya know you're pretty self-conscious too

So you run back and stuff yourselves in rigid business costumes
Only at night to score is your leather uniform exhumed
Why don't you take your social regulations
And shove 'em up your ass

(Dead Kennedys)

Femme_Fatale

Killer Wench wrote: »

Blackface is done as a way to mock black individuals... My identity means everything to me, but my identity means a joke to you.

Even if that's not the intention?

Killer Wench

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Even if that's not the intention?

What gain would one get from putting dark makeup on their face, exaggerating the shape or color of their lips, putting on a nappy haired wig, and then appropriating Black speech patterns?

Would it be for the laugh?

Femme_Fatale

Killer Wench wrote: »

What gain would one get from putting dark makeup on their face, exaggerating the shape or color of their lips, putting on a nappy haired wig, and then appropriating Black speech patterns?

Would it be for the laugh?

What if they just want to look like the person they're dressing up as?

Killer Wench

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

What if they just want to look like the person they're dressing up as?

And what is that they admire about this person that they'd want to dress like them?

Femme_Fatale

Killer Wench wrote: »

And what is that they admire about this person that they'd want to dress like them?

What is it that anyone admires about anyone when they dress up as them? They just want to dress up as them.

If I wanted to dress up as Marilyn Monroe, I'd need a blonde wig in order to look as close to her as I could - it's just physical resemblance being looked for.