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Anyone else against blood sports?

  • 19-09-2013 6:01pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭


    Dont get me wrong, killing animals is fine if you intend to eat it or you have pests. But for sport? Ahhhhh. Sick satisfaction.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    *pulls up a chair*

    This will end well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 FlushBang2013


    Zombienosh wrote: »
    *pulls up a chair*

    This will end well.

    I'm with you zombie :-) gonna be interesting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Zed Bank wrote: »
    Dont get me wrong, killing animals is fine if you intend to eat it or you have pests. But for sport? Ahhhhh. Sick satisfaction.

    What if you kill pests for fun?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Zed Bank wrote: »
    Dont get me wrong, killing animals is fine if you intend to eat it or you have pests. But for sport? Ahhhhh. Sick satisfaction.

    Suppose you eat it after it's been killed for sport?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    Would be against it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭Profiler


    smash wrote: »
    What if you kill pests for fun?

    Then there is something wrong with you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭Howard Juneau


    Nah, Bloodsport was a wonderful movie, Jean Claude Van Damme all the way baby!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Nah, Bloodsport was a wonderful movie, Jean Claude Van Damme all the way baby!

    Kumite! Kumite! Kumite!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Meh, couldn't be bothered either way.

    But i'd be all for human bloodsports, á lá Death Race, Battle Royale, Gladiator, etc. Send the dregs of society in to battle to the death!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Zed Bank


    kneemos wrote: »
    Suppose you eat it after it's been killed for sport?

    Depends, its not like you just kill one pheasant and eat it... I was out lampin once and hated it been against blood sports since


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    So, how long have you not liked Van Damme's movies? Are you a Segal fanboy instead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Zed Bank wrote: »
    Depends, its not like you just kill one pheasant and eat it... I was out lampin once amd hated been against blood sports since
    You prefer if the foxes killed all of your hens?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    I shoot food for the table. I dislike giving my money to some Multi-National who sells me Horse...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,476 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    I like blood sports, but I prefer to hunt people for fun not animals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    I agree, I particularly have an issue with coursing, yes the dogs are muzzled but hares still die and at the very least have crap scared out of them for the enjoyment of humans.

    I don't like the hunt, as in loads people dressed up on horses chasing a fox with a rake of dogs, just think it's a bit disgusting.

    I think hunters are great, guys who go out with their dogs on the weekend and shoot a few pheasants, rabbits etc. They are some of out best preservers of the countryside, they keep numbers of rabbits down for farmers. Of course there are some bad ones but you will find bad in every bunch.

    Another issue that no seems to think about is the dogs that are used in this sport they are often discarded when they are no longer of use, they are seen as disposable. They don't receive proper veterinary care if they are injured, they are dumped or sent to the pound. So many greyhounds die in Irish pounds every year that they have their own section in the stats, one column for greys, one for every other breed of dog. Now I am not saying that everyone is like this, but it is something that is very prevalent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    As long as it serves a purpose other than purely for fun and entertainment (food, pest control etc) then I've no problem.
    I've no problem if the people in control of it get enjoyment out of it either, I went hunting for deer before and it was a great experience. The 100 euro worth of venison steaks I got a week later were well worth it too!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Meh, couldn't be bothered either way.

    But i'd be all for human bloodsports, á lá Death Race, Battle Royale, Gladiator, etc. Send the dregs of society in to battle to the death!

    I like unreal tournament, where people get to fight to the death if they choose

    "Under NEG law, any two people could, under organised conditions, fight to the death. The various mining conglomerates organised matches and small leagues to channel aggression.
    The results were immediate and successful. The leagues escalated with money and promotions offered to victors. One insightful corporation, the Liandri Mining Corporation, began to tri-cast fights and capitalises on the primal form of entertainment."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Zed Bank


    the_syco wrote: »
    You prefer if the foxes killed all of your hens?

    Im not a farmer so I dont have that problem, Ive a number of country friends and this argument is thrown up all the time, its ecology and food webs really. Put up better netting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    the_syco wrote: »
    So, how long have you not liked Van Damme's movies? Are you a Segal fanboy instead?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Oh, oh, and if you don't kill your opponent, you're put to the death! That'll teach 'em!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    HUnting wild animals for food or population control is fine, but hunting, i.e. toffs, horses and foxes seems unecessarily barbaric. Generally not something that I would be concerned enough about to protest about though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    I don't understand how a supposedly intelligent being could take pleasure in such things to be perfectly honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭somuj


    I don't understand how a supposedly intelligent being could take pleasure in such things to be perfectly honest.

    Because we're animals. Chimpanzes have been know to go out and kill for sport.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    somuj wrote: »
    Because we're animals. Chimpanzes have been know to go out and kill for sport.

    Do you eat your own shit too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭somuj


    Do you eat your own shit too?

    Yes and so do you. Seeing as how **** fertilizes the planet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭loubeelou


    Completely against it. I'm genuinely disturbed by people who get enjoyment from watching the suffering of any creature.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    somuj wrote: »
    Yes and so do you. Seeing as how **** fertilizes the planet.

    What a comeback.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    I don't understand how a supposedly intelligent being could take pleasure in such things to be perfectly honest.

    Intelligence has little to do with it. Its more to do with psychological make up and being a bit of a psychopath.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    somuj wrote: »
    Yes and so do you. Seeing as how **** fertilizes the planet.

    Oh what farm do you supply? I'd cut back on synthetic fertilizers too in this climate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Sorry I missed the start of this thread. Was eating a few rabbits that I killed for the craic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    I agree, I particularly have an issue with coursing, yes the dogs are muzzled but hares still die and at the very least have crap scared out of them for the enjoyment of humans.

    I don't like the hunt, as in loads people dressed up on horses chasing a fox with a rake of dogs, just think it's a bit disgusting.

    I think hunters are great, guys who go out with their dogs on the weekend and shoot a few pheasants, rabbits etc. They are some of out best preservers of the countryside, they keep numbers of rabbits down for farmers. Of course there are some bad ones but you will find bad in every bunch.

    Another issue that no seems to think about is the dogs that are used in this sport they are often discarded when they are no longer of use, they are seen as disposable. They don't receive proper veterinary care if they are injured, they are dumped or sent to the pound. So many greyhounds die in Irish pounds every year that they have their own section in the stats, one column for greys, one for every other breed of dog. Now I am not saying that everyone is like this, but it is something that is very prevalent.


    How is hunting rabbits, foxes or pheasants with hounds and guns more noble than coursing. What makes you think hounds trained to hunt are better cared for and less disposable than greyhounds? If a hound is no longer able to hunt do you believe that these hunters take them to some dog hospice?

    Does a hare have a better chance versus a gun than it does against a muzzled dog?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Elbaston


    Meh, couldn't be bothered either way.

    But i'd be all for human bloodsports, á lá Death Race, Battle Royale, Gladiator, etc. Send the dregs of society in to battle to the death!

    ARE YISERS NAH AMUEZED !!??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭Howard Juneau


    The Aussie wrote: »
    I shoot food for the table. I dislike giving my money to some Multi-National who sells me Horse...

    So it was you who shot Shergar!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,175 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    I hunt both on horseback and with a gun for the table...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭Cork24


    Zed Bank wrote: »
    Dont get me wrong, killing animals is fine if you intend to eat it or you have pests. But for sport? Ahhhhh. Sick satisfaction.



    Pests in your word what are they ?

    foxes, Deer, Pigeons, Rats, Field Mouse's, Crows, magpies

    they are all pests, in different parts of the Country.. Chicken farmers would have foxes and rats and pigeon down as pests,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    So it was you who shot Shergar!

    Nah, missed that party by a few years, the Back Straps would have been very tender, you could have served it almost Blue....

    Must go out and turn a few Rabbits inside out in a while, Rabbit Curry on Saturday night me thinks, far nicer than any Lamb in a Curry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Eating sh1t directly is the exact same thing as eating vegetables that were fertilised with sh1t when grown.

    The exact same thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭Howard Juneau


    Eating sh1t directly is the exact same thing as eating vegetables that were fertilised with sh1t when grown.

    The exact same thing.

    Right! We have 1 girl, can we get another & I'll bring a cup & we'll put it to the test!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    Right! We have 1 girl, can we get another & I'll bring a cup & we'll put it to the test!

    I see what you did there, I'm still resisting the google search.


    Do not mention again ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Right! We have 1 girl, can we get another & I'll bring a cup & we'll put it to the test!

    Be sure they don't eat any corn first


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Yes it's barbaric in my opinion.

    It's one thing to, for instance, raise a herd of cattle for meat. But it's quite another to hunt down, injure and then set a pack of dogs on a fox.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Define blood sports, please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    I'll stop killing animals when animals stop killing animals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    I'm an omnivore and I grow some of my own veg and kill some of my own meat and yes I do enjoy the hunt with rifle and shotgun. Anyone any problem with that send your letter of complaint to the managing director at Nature ltd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    . Anyone any problem with that send your letter of complaint to the managing director at Nature ltd.

    Or call someone who gives a toss!!

    You forgot that part stevie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    People who hunt for fun always get so defensive. Probably because they know they have no excuse and the condemnation of them is justified. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Mr Whirly


    Lads on horses with funny jackets thinking they are English gentry can go and ****e, as can pikeys setting dogs on hares. Otherwise I have no problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    People who hunt for fun always get so defensive. Probably because they know they have no excuse and the condemnation of them is justified. :)

    Not really.
    We just have a pain in the bollox with people p!ssin and moaning about it and yet the same person will go home and eat a chicken burger or a steak.
    I hunt and enjoy it. And nothing you or anyone else can say that'll stop me doing it.
    The animals I shoot get a quicker painless death than the chicken in your fridge!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    I hunt and enjoy it. And nothing you or anyone else can say that'll stop me doing it.
    The animals I shoot get a quicker painless death than the chicken in your fridge!
    The foxes that have to sprint and sprint until their bodies give up so they collapse and can look forward in a few moments to being turned into mincemeat by a pack of dogs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭homerhop


    The foxes that have to sprint and sprint until their bodies give up so they collapse and can look forward in a few moments to being turned into mincemeat by a pack of dogs?

    Take it by that statement you know nothing about foxes or hunting except what ya read on PETA


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