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Ireland/England QTS Query

  • 19-09-2013 9:07am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭


    I have recently completed my degree in secondary school teaching. I have tried to get work in Ireland but failed and instead I was offered a job teaching in a secondary school in England.

    I have been approached by a member of staff in charge of NQT's and he has asked me to register for the English NQT year. This year consists of meetings, reflections and observations. I have already completed 16 weeks of teaching practice where these tasks were completed throughout.

    I know in Ireland, to be given QTS by the Irish teaching council I must have registered with the council, completed a minimum of 300 hours teaching and also completed 10 professional development workshops. Am I right in saying that these are all the requirements of the Irish Teaching Council in order to gain qualified teacher status in the country?

    If so, I feel that I would be putting unnecessary work on myself here by registering with the NQT program here. I have the job here for the year and will amass the 300 hours easily. Continuous professional development workshops start here soon and I will complete the requirements of the Irish Teaching Council here by completing a minimum of 10 workshops and I can have these signed off by the HR manager here.

    Am I right in saying that by completing my QTS requirements in Ireland, I will then have QTS in England? (i.e - It should crossover?)

    Sorry for all the questions but if I am right in my assumptions I feel it unnecessary to create extra work for myself in a situation where I find myself in a situation where I really don't need extra work!


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭Megatitan


    Also, I have emailed the teaching council but they aren't the fastest in getting back to me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    If you complete all of the teaching council's requirements in Ireland, you will be able to register in England as if you have QTS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭clartharlear


    It will probably be worth your while to join the NQT programme, unless they are going to pay you less for it. You will get 10% extra Planning Preparation Assessment time off teaching, and the NQT sessions could be really valuable. Just how valuable depends on your school, but teacher training on this side of the water is far more practical and immediately useful than the lofty educational theory from Irish universities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭aunt aggie


    Schools prefer when you take any CPD opportunities and like a previous poster said the reduced timetable is a bonus. Once you have completed the 300 hours you can apply for QTS in Ireland and transfer this over to England. You will not receive a teacher registration number in England until this happens. This caused a lot of confusion when I went through my NQT year.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    I've my 300 hours done without completing an NQT programme but any CPD that has been timetabled. Am I right on thinking that I can now apply to the Teaching Council in Ireland for registration and then use that to apply for QTS in the UK?

    Reason why I'm asking is that I've secured a permanent job in the UK and that QTS status could make a big difference in my salary from what I can see


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭aunt aggie


    Based on my experience last year, this is the only way to do it. Send your hours to the teaching council and ask them to send you written confirmation that you have completed all post qualification requirements. Forward this written confirmation to the teaching agency and they'll verify your QTS. It might take a month or two but its definitely worth it!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    aunt aggie wrote: »
    Based on my experience last year, this is the only way to do it. Send your hours to the teaching council and ask them to send you written confirmation that you have completed all post qualification requirements. Forward this written confirmation to the teaching agency and they'll verify your QTS. It might take a month or two but its definitely worth it!

    Fantastic thanks - definitely worth it, could be up to £6000 difference in my salary for next year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 celia0987


    I have my QTS in Wales but want to return home to Ireland. Is the NQT necessary to get a job in Ireland or will the NQT suffice. helppppp


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