milk replacers

amacca

Hi,

Doing a bit of fact finding on milk replacers to try and pick the best one for a a small test group of calves I'm thinking of rearing next year.....just want to compare and contrast vs a group I had last year I reared "the way I usually do it"...no complaints, they are grand but just curious


Anyone know where I can find any independent research on what components are most important to get the best thrive, prevent scour and boost immune system etc...And at what sort of levels %of the feed

ie: whats the optimum level of crude protein, crude fat, %lactose, vitamins copper etc....is ash just in there as a filler etc............is it the more the merrier (within reason/obv not 100%) with protein and fats as long as its derived from milk rather than veg oils or at what levels are most calves just passing it through their digestive system and not getting any benefit

Also can the spec/nutrition information quoted by feed companies be trusted do ye think...how are they verified?

had a search and think this has not been asked before:o

bbam

amacca wrote: »

Hi,

Doing a bit of fact finding on milk replacers to try and pick the best one for a a small test group of calves I'm thinking of rearing next year.....just want to compare and contrast vs a group I had last year I reared "the way I usually do it"...no complaints, they are grand but just curious


Anyone know where I can find any independent research on what components are most important to get the best thrive, prevent scour and boost immune system etc...And at what sort of levels %of the feed

ie: whats the optimum level of crude protein, crude fat, %lactose, vitamins copper etc....is ash just in there as a filler etc............is it the more the merrier (within reason/obv not 100%) with protein and fats as long as its derived from milk rather than veg oils or at what levels are most calves just passing it through their digestive system and not getting any benefit

Also can the spec/nutrition information quoted by feed companies be trusted do ye think...how are they verified?

had a search and think this has not been asked before:o

I have some PDF's here that might answer some of this stuff.. If you want to PM me and email address I'll send them over..

Sam Kade

amacca wrote: »

Hi,

Doing a bit of fact finding on milk replacers to try and pick the best one for a a small test group of calves I'm thinking of rearing next year.....just want to compare and contrast vs a group I had last year I reared "the way I usually do it"...no complaints, they are grand but just curious


Anyone know where I can find any independent research on what components are most important to get the best thrive, prevent scour and boost immune system etc...And at what sort of levels %of the feed

ie: whats the optimum level of crude protein, crude fat, %lactose, vitamins copper etc....is ash just in there as a filler etc............is it the more the merrier (within reason/obv not 100%) with protein and fats as long as its derived from milk rather than veg oils or at what levels are most calves just passing it through their digestive system and not getting any benefit

Also can the spec/nutrition information quoted by feed companies be trusted do ye think...how are they verified?

had a search and think this has not been asked before:o

Skim based milk replacers are way ahead of whey based replacers Whey based runs through them where as skim based take longer to digest and are better for the calf. I have been using whey based over the last few years and changed to skim based this year the calves were a lot healthier and no scour

jersey101

Sam Kade wrote: »

Skim based milk replacers are way ahead of whey based replacers Whey based runs through them where as skim based take longer to digest and are better for the calf. I have been using whey based over the last few years and changed to skim based this year the calves were a lot healthier and no scour

what brand are you using
. Im using volac now give each calf the full of the measureing jug in 2l of water each feeding. Doing a right job on the.

Sam Kade

jersey101 wrote: »

what brand are you using
. Im using volac now give each calf the full of the measureing jug in 2l of water each feeding. Doing a right job on the.

Shine oad. Calves switched from yogurt milk to shine. The other thing about shine is that you can mix it with milk as well.

jersey101

Sam Kade wrote: »

Shine oad. Calves switched from yogurt milk to shine. The other thing about shine is that you can mix it with milk as well.

what % protein is in that?

Sam Kade

jersey101 wrote: »

what % protein is in that?

I'll have to check the bag in the morning to answer that, I tried their website but no mention of ingredients.

Sam Kade

20% protein

jersey101

Sam Kade wrote: »

20% protein

do ye not think ghe pr is s bit low? I remember being told never use any less the 25% protein in milk replacer