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Washington shootings

  • 16-09-2013 04:27PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,494 ✭✭✭✭


    Surprised there's not a thread about this already.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1142428/washington-navy-yard-shooting-several-dead

    Multiple gunmen involved so it's not your run-of-the-mill disgruntled nutjob
    Two gunmen have shot 12 people, killing four, in an attack at the US Naval Sea Systems Command headquarters in Washington, according to police sources.

    The men, one dressed in military fatigues and one carrying an AR-15 rifle, launched their attack on one of the biggest naval command buildings in the US in the early morning rush as people arrived for work.

    Police sources told the Washington Post that they were dealing with two gunmen, who had shot dead four people and injured eight, sparking fears that it could be a terrorist attack.

    A navy spokesman has told Sky News that two gunmen had been "taken down".

    Six schools in Washington have been put on lockdown.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Meh, 'Merika.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Meh, 'Merika.

    How do you even make that comment in this context?

    Really?

    Really?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    How is attacking a naval base considered a "terrorist attack" now? A public place or civilians, yes, but this hardly fits that criteria.
    A navy spokesman has told Sky News that two gunmen had been "taken down".
    First thing that sprung to mind;


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    MadsL wrote: »
    How do you even make that comment in this context?

    Really?

    Really?

    Really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    How is attacking a naval base considered a "terrorist attack" now? A public place or civilians, yes, but this hardly fits that criteria.

    A bit of IRA style 'legitimate target' thinking, is that what you are arguing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Really.

    Do continue. I'm all ears to hear how this incident is a result of 'Murica thinking. Do you even know what the meme means?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭spank_inferno


    Freedom & constitutional rights have broken out across a naval yard in DC.


    To say otherwise makes you a tree-hugging pinko commie?


    ...... Murica!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    How is attacking a naval base considered a "terrorist attack" now? A public place or civilians, yes, but this hardly fits that criteria.

    The definition of terrorism is hotly contested.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    And here's Jimmy with the weather..........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Initial reports said he had a doubled barrelled shotgun..how that can be confused with an AR15 I have no idea:pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,494 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    How is attacking a naval base considered a "terrorist attack" now? A public place or civilians, yes, but this hardly fits that criteria.

    It's just being reported as a potential terrorist attack. Nothing confirmed or denied officially yet.

    Anyway, attacks aren't judged to be terrorism related based solely on the target!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Blay wrote: »
    Initial reports said he had a doubled barrelled shotgun..how that can be confused with an AR15 I have no idea:pac:

    Because every active shooter has an AR-15, even when they don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Freedom & constitutional rights have broken out across a naval yard in DC.


    To say otherwise makes you a tree-hugging pinko commie?


    ...... Murica!!!

    Err. What?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    Hopefully these two men do not have any links to the USA or they will have to possibly bomb themselves to get rid of all terrorists that could be harbored in that country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    MadsL wrote: »
    Because every active shooter has an AR-15, even when they don't.

    I heard Sky News correspondents trying to grapple with the terminology earlier, they said an AR15 was an 'assault rifle', an 'assault style rifle' and 'similar to an AK47'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭andersat2


    it's called - democracy in that country, they can do whenever they want, it's their right!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    MadsL wrote: »
    A bit of IRA style 'legitimate target' thinking, is that what you are arguing?
    Careful now! It just annoys me to see the term bandied about meaninglessly, either through lazy reporting or scaremongering.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    Feckin' 'Muricans


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    MadsL wrote: »
    Do continue. I'm all ears to hear how this incident is a result of 'Murica thinking. Do you even know what the meme means?

    It may shock you, but a lot of people, myself included, don't care what happens in America, land of freedom. It's not the center of the world. I'm still musing on the miracle that was the 4200 odd people being saved from the Costa Concordia without any evacuation plan back in 2012 and the raising of it today.

    So there were more murders in America today then on an average day, Why should that bother me? Seriously?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭spank_inferno


    MadsL wrote: »
    Err. What?

    Some dead & injured people are a small price to pay for the freedom to bear arms & uphold good constitutionalism.

    Fewer lives would have been lost had everyone in DC been armed to the teeth.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,494 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    ehh.. I know it's asking a lot, but can we try to avoid the whole gun-debate in this thread?

    There's literally dozens of those threads already.. and the same people arguing in almost all of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Well aren't we the coolest kids in town, people shot dead and all we have to offer is a demonstration of our own prejudice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Feckin' 'Muricans

    You have a short memory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    It may shock you, but a lot of people, myself included, don't care what happens in America, land of freedom. It's not the center of the world. I'm still musing on the miracle that was the 4200 odd people being saved from the Costa Concordia without any evacuation plan back in 2012 and the raising of it today.

    So there were more murders in America today then on an average day, Why should that bother me? Seriously?

    Why bother posting then? .....seriously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭beks101


    Wondering how the hell these guys got into the Navy Yar, security would be pretty damn tight and you'd have needed a security pass to get in at the very least...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    It may shock you, but a lot of people, myself included, don't care what happens in America, land of freedom. It's not the center of the world. I'm still musing on the miracle that was the 4200 odd people being saved from the Costa Concordia without any evacuation plan back in 2012 and the raising of it today.

    So there were more murders in America today then on an average day, Why should that bother me? Seriously?

    And yet here you are posting on the thread. You don't do irony do you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    ehh.. I know it's asking a lot, but can we try to avoid the whole gun-debate in this thread?

    There's literally dozens of those threads already.. and the same people arguing in almost all of them.

    still, this contains them and makes them easier to avoid. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    ehh.. I know it's asking a lot, but can we try to avoid the whole gun-debate in this thread?

    There's literally dozens of those threads already.. and the same people arguing in almost all of them.

    That's pretty much impossible given the nature of the incident. You'll have people coming in to play with the new terms they picked up on Sky News like 'assault style rifles'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Some dead & injured people are a small price to pay for the freedom to bear arms & uphold good constitutionalism.

    Fewer lives would have been lost had everyone in DC been armed to the teeth.

    Poor effort. Try harder.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Possibly another inside job? Contractors? Who knows...I am understanding it correctly that they killed the 2 that carried out the attack?


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