UFC 165 Jones vs. Gustafsson Sept 21

Be like Nutella · 16-09-2013 1:30pm #1

Main Card

Light Heavyweight Jon Jones
vs. Alexander Gustafsson

Bantamweight Renan Barão (ic) vs. Eddie Wineland

Heavyweight Brendan Schaub vs. Matt Mitrione
Middleweight Costa Philippou vs. Francis Carmont
Lightweight Pat Healy vs. Khabib Nurmagomedov

Preliminary card (Fox Sports 1)

Lightweight Mike Ricci vs. Myles Jury
Bantamweight Ivan Menjivar vs. Wilson Reis
Welterweight Chris Clements vs. Stephen Thompson
Bantamweight Mitch Gagnon vs. Dustin Kimura

Preliminary card (Facebook/Youtube)

Lightweight John Makdessi vs. Renee Forte
Lightweight Jesse Ronson vs. Michel Prazeres
Bantamweight Roland Delorme vs. Alex Caceres
Heavyweight Nandor Guelmino vs. Daniel Omielańczuk

Be like Nutella · 16-09-2013 1:57pm

Can Jones get his first Standing KO?

This is a real tester for when he moves up to HW where he'll need pure striking power in his arsenal if he wants to challenge the big boys. He'll also need to prove he can take decent shots, this fight should show us some of that. Can't wait

garhjw · 16-09-2013 2:47pm

Yes, I agree about jones' knockout power. I think it is there but he does use some unorthodox angles and strikes so perhaps that affects the power delivery.

Be like Nutella · 16-09-2013 3:36pm

He doesn't commit his weight fully to most of his strikes and yet still hurts guys with them.. such is his skill and pure technique. There's been a clear movement away from leaning fully into strikes in some camps... firing out well timed snappy strikes as opposed to swinging through the target. like the difference between Wandy punching and Bisping punching... totally opposite mechanics and technique. One if safer but you rarely see KO's. Bisping is an extreme example.

Bones controls distance using his kicks and mesmerizing jazz hands to confuse, bully and disrupt opponents flow, picking his shots one at a time constantly forcing his opponent to the cage wall giving him options but he virtually never leans in for a finishing strike the way so many other fighters do... and it has worked for him at LHW. But it won't at HW. They will absorb his single strikes easier because they're so much bigger with more muscle and his length advantage will be massively reduced. He may have that KO power in his hands - I've just never seen it yet because his Jackson influenced game plan is so set in stone.

No way GJ would ever allow Jones to swing a flurry of punches with bad intentions under any circumstances... Jackson would quit straight away run away and cry. He might have to in this fight though IF, and that's a BIG IF, Gusto turns up to war!

Be like Nutella · 16-09-2013 7:58pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n90HQH8l4z8

Be like Nutella · 18-09-2013 6:12pm

Weigh ins 9pm on Friday at this link

http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/09/watch-fridays-ufc-165-weigh-ins-live-on-mmajunkie-com-at-4-p-m-et

Mellor · 21-09-2013 11:09am

Just looking over fighters records for this card and it really is the night of win streaks.

Dustin Kimura - 10
Myles Jury - 12
Pat Healy - 7 (weed doesn't count imo)
Khabib Nurmagomedov - 20
Francis Carmont - 10
Barão - 30
Gustafsson - 6
Jones - 9 LHW records, and realistically its 19 as nobody counts Matt Hamill

Be like Nutella · 21-09-2013 11:51am

jaysus yeah it's a good card ! Healy is such a beast

weemcd · 21-09-2013 6:44pm

What Matt Mitrione has ever done to warrant such high places on fight cards I'll never know. I don't even dislike the guy, he seems dead on. He's just not anywhere near good enough.

El Guapo! · 21-09-2013 7:11pm

weemcd wrote: »

What Matt Mitrione has ever done to warrant such high places on fight cards I'll never know. I don't even dislike the guy, he seems dead on. He's just not anywhere near good enough.

A combination of factors really.
He's an ex NFL player (which probably attracted some fans to him), his whole pro mma career has been within the UFC (which is a bit of a novelty), and he's an all round likeable character which makes him fairly popular among the fans.
I think the main reason though is that the heavyweight division is pretty thin on huge talent. If it was a stacked division then he wouldn't be so high up the card.

mailburner · 21-09-2013 10:26pm

healy khabib the one im most looking forward to
khabib is in my opinion a fighter going places and I honestly
wouldnt be surprised if he got a title fight within two years
I rate him that highly and think he will outclass healy
without finishing given how tough healy is

El Guapo! · 21-09-2013 10:40pm

Can't wait for Barao v Wineland.

Eddie Wineland seems like a real genuine guy and I hope he gets the win. He's a real hard worker and kind of goes unnoticed. Really hope he wins this. He deserves it imo.

user2011 · 21-09-2013 11:40pm

Did I hear correctly there, He grazes him but he catches him cleanly

Ush1 · 21-09-2013 11:50pm

user2011 wrote: »

Did I hear correctly there, He grazes him but he catches him cleanly

Also Joe asked why the corner weren't speaking 'Austrian'.

user2011 · 22-09-2013 12:06am

Ush1 wrote: »

Also Joe asked why the corner weren't speaking 'Austrian'.

I let that slide because they did well pronouncing the names of the 2 guys. Was expecting to just hear the first names

eddiejn · 22-09-2013 12:33am

cud anyone pm me somewhere to watch this ?

Kylo Ren · 22-09-2013 12:52am

What time do we think Jones will be on? 5am?

weemcd · 22-09-2013 12:57am

Keno wrote: »

What time do we think Jones will be on? 5am?

I'd say so, been a nice night of finishes so far. Hope this continues

eddiejn · 22-09-2013 2:03am

anywhere to watch the main event pm me please

Lenin Skynard · 22-09-2013 3:08am

Really sad reflection on the unified rules of MMA.

PerrinV2 · 22-09-2013 3:24am

Nice finish from Shaub

Arawn · 22-09-2013 3:26am

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Really sad reflection on the unified rules of MMA.

??

smiley2742 · 22-09-2013 3:33am

anyone got a link to watch this on?

Arawn · 22-09-2013 3:45am

what a fantastic hilight reel end there

Lenin Skynard · 22-09-2013 3:51am

The Barao "interim" thing is bizarre.

darced · 22-09-2013 3:53am

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eddiejn · 22-09-2013 3:56am

bit of an ironic entrance song , wake me up ? lol

darced · 22-09-2013 3:59am

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Arawn · 22-09-2013 4:10am

jones losing this round, cut and been taken down for the first time

darced · 22-09-2013 4:12am

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Arawn · 22-09-2013 4:19am

1-1 in my books, though that round was very close, bones with 6 take down attempts and 0 take downs

Arawn · 22-09-2013 4:24am

2-1 gust!

Arawn · 22-09-2013 4:31am

...hard round to call, jones was losing till last 30 seconds and a big spinning elbow causes serious damage for him, from then on survival mode

Mellor · 22-09-2013 4:34am

2-2 into the 5th and final

This is the best LHW title fight since Jones became champ. Very quiet here tonight/today

darced · 22-09-2013 4:36am

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Arawn · 22-09-2013 4:36am

I THINK WE HAVE A NEW CHAMPION

Mellor · 22-09-2013 4:36am

Gustafson'sstock has risen a ridic amount inmy eyes, regardless of result.
I feel Jones is taking the fifth. These two will fight again.

Arawn · 22-09-2013 4:37am

have it 3-2

Podge2k7 · 22-09-2013 4:37am

Amazing fight!

Mellor · 22-09-2013 4:38am

I can imagine Tito screaming at the TV right now. His precious record.

the incredible pudding · 22-09-2013 4:39am

Gotta give so much respect to both guys. I can't believe how competitive that fight was, it could go either way.

Arawn · 22-09-2013 4:39am

how did a judge score that 4-1 to jones

empacher · 22-09-2013 4:40am

49-46 Gus got robbed

Mellor · 22-09-2013 4:40am

49-46 was a bit harsh

I had Jones rounds 1, 4 and 5. Alexander 2 and 3.

the incredible pudding · 22-09-2013 4:42am

Can't understand the 49-46; judges be crazy!

Jones' elbows are more dangerous than his hands imo, his aggression in the 4th won it for him though, maybe gus should have went for a take down then. Hopefully we'll have a rematch soon.

Andersonisgod · 22-09-2013 4:46am

Robbed of his huge physical advantage I thought Jones looked like a different fighter, a more vulnerable fighter. No doubt he did well to win it, though I thought round 4 was debatable. If this move to heavyweight were to ever happen I really think he'd struggle against Cain and JDS.

Be like Nutella · 22-09-2013 4:52am

MMAjunkie.com scores the final round for Jones, 10-9, and gives him the fight 49-46.http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/09/ufc-165-play-by-play-and-live-results

Be like Nutella · 22-09-2013 4:54am

10-9 Jones makes it 49-46 Jones on my card http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/9/21/4755202/ufc-165-jones-vs-gustafsson-live-ppv-broadcast-results

Be like Nutella · 22-09-2013 4:56am

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFC-165-Results-Jones-vs-Gustafsson-PlaybyPlay-Updates-56377#jon-jones-alexander-gustafsson

darced · 22-09-2013 5:02am

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the incredible pudding · 22-09-2013 5:12am

darced wrote: »

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Ah come on now, it wasn't anything near a sustained beating. It was a very very even fight. You could argue that Gustafsson did more damage in the first three rounds, but on points the 2nd was most likely jones' and the third was pretty debatable.

UFC 165 Jones vs. Gustafsson Sept 21

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