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Are all employers/interviewers a shower of c***s?

  • 13-09-2013 10:27AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭Chairman Meow


    I ask this as im genuinely curious.

    My wife just went on a working interview last week. For a large cosmetic company up in Dublin Airport. She worked 4 hours, sold products for them and actually made money for the company. After all that they didn't even have the decency to send her an email, or a phone call to say "you didnt get the job". Just left us hanging for an entire week, until she called them, and was only then told she didnt get the job. Same thing happened with a large chain of opticians, went for an interview, and didnt get so much as a please **** off letter. Multiple calls to them to ask if we could expect a reply were greeted with a "well call you back", which never happened.
    She did another "working interview" last Christmas for a large chemists chain, and was only notified by email several weeks later she hadnt been successful.

    Is this a new thing? I honestly remember when i was a teenager/early 20's, in the late 90's, early 2000's, you could at the very least expect a letter a day or two later to say you were unsuccessful. It just seems like people dont give a **** nowadays, and these working interviews seem like nothing but an excuse to get a few hours free work out of someone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Maybe she's having an affair and doesn't actually ever go to these working interviews


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭drdeadlift


    Name the ****ers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Being self-employed, I screw myself over all the time ... :D

    seriously, though, in some cases the number of applicants can simply be too high to send everyone a rejection letter. That said, the expeienes you guys have had are a bit rude: they don;t takt that many people on working interviews. I'm wondering with the cosmetics one if there really was a job available or wer they just trying to get soem cheap skilled labour for the day...?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭bigneacy


    Yeah probably an affair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭Chairman Meow


    Guys i know about the affair so serious replies only plz


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,608 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    "working interviews" by retail employers are a complete scam that have been knocking around for years, died out a bit during the boom as nobody was willing to do them but are clearly coming back.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Courtesy Flush


    Become self employed. Working for other people sucks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,021 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    Not all employers just the cosmetics and fashion industry. Tis all gone to hell in a handbasket since they shot that designer lad in Miami for being too good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,909 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Never waste a good recession ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    MYOB wrote: »
    "working interviews" by retail employers are a complete scam that have been knocking around for years, died out a bit during the boom as nobody was willing to do them but are clearly coming back.

    probably encouraged by the success of Jobbridge and similar schemes in getting them free labour.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,926 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Yes OP, the actions of one cosmetic company in Dublin airport are indicative of all employers and interviewers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,909 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Yes OP, the actions of one cosmetic company in Dublin airport are indicative of all employers and interviewers.

    In fairness the op listed a few other experiences too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭Chairman Meow


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Yes OP, the actions of one cosmetic company in Dublin airport are indicative of all employers and interviewers.

    What about the actions of the other couple of companies i mentioned too? If it was one campany id put it down to a bad luck or a poor interview, 3 times? Thats ****ing ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Mocha Joe


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Yes OP, the actions of one cosmetic company in Dublin airport are indicative of all employers and interviewers.

    :rolleyes:

    Sensible post wannabe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭Interceptor


    Thats appalling. Common decency is so uncommon.

    'c


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭mitosis


    What about the actions of the other couple of companies i mentioned too? If it was one campany id put it down to a bad luck or a poor interview, 3 times? Thats ****ing ridiculous.


    If only there was a common link between the three.......... :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    What about the actions of the other couple of companies i mentioned too? If it was one campany id put it down to a bad luck or a poor interview, 3 times? Thats ****ing ridiculous.

    There is plenty of companies who will interview correctly and provide interview feedback. Stuff like this happened during the boom as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭ardmacha


    HR departments are rarely either efficient or responsible, even in companies that are both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,722 ✭✭✭silly


    I was off work for 6 months and did many interviews, never heard of a working one though..
    but i had a good few experiences of people not calling back to tell me if i had been successful or not.

    The worst experience was when I interviewed for a well known irish company. I met with the owner and she asked me to tell her about myself, I told her a few brief details, including what my husband did for a living. Then she asked me what i wanted salary wise, when i told her, she said they would only be offering 4 grand less, i told her that i couldnt work for that, she said - sure what do you need that kind of money for with your husbands salary.........
    I was shocked, and i couldnt even answer her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    Just maybe its your wife .Does she have bad body odour or something ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭cletus van damme


    looks to me like it's a sly way to cover gaps in the roster without paying somebody.
    perhaps there was no job?


    it would be interesting to have a newspaper expose on this?
    Woudl your wife consider going to media about her experience.
    Reason I say this , is yoru wife isn't the first person I've heard of this happening to them.

    It seems to me that some employers are using peoples desperation for a job to their advantage which is sickening


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Being self-employed, I screw myself over all the time ... :D

    seriously, though, in some cases the number of applicants can simply be too high to send everyone a rejection letter. That said, the expeienes you guys have had are a bit rude: they don;t takt that many people on working interviews. I'm wondering with the cosmetics one if there really was a job available or wer they just trying to get soem cheap skilled labour for the day...?

    em, only if the job they're applying for is the only secretary at a firm where no one else knows how to use a computer & printer and manage the postage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Muise... wrote: »
    em, only if the job they're applying for is the only secretary at a firm where no one else knows how to use a computer & printer and manage the postage.


    Mail Merge function in Word is so handy! :D


    (Well, if you have the Access database set up correctly!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    They get you in to cover some hours for free. Good plan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 953 ✭✭✭donegal__road


    was just talking about this yesterday OP. The missus had to contact a guy to tell him he didnt get a job he applied for at a local college, and he emailed back to say that this was the first contact of any kind, he had received in over a year of doing interviews for work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,981 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Depending on the job, they could get hundreds of applicants.

    For example, 200 applicants for a job. 1 minute minimum to 2 mins max to make a call to tell them they didn't get the job. That's 200-400 minutes (between 3-6 hours!) to call people they didn't get the job.

    Sending emails wouldn't be much quicker. It's time that simply can't be justified 'wasting' to tell someone they didn't get a job.


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Jason CoolS Oat


    Caliden wrote: »
    Depending on the job, they could get hundreds of applicants.

    For example, 200 applicants for a job. 1 minute minimum to 2 mins max to make a call to tell them they didn't get the job. That's 200-400 minutes (between 3-6 hours!) to call people they didn't get the job.

    Sending emails wouldn't be much quicker. It's time that simply can't be justified 'wasting' to tell someone they didn't get a job.

    How many minutes did those applicants spend attending and completing interviews?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭Chairman Meow


    was just talking about this yesterday OP. The missus had to contact a guy to tell him he didnt get a job he applied for at a local college, and he emailed back to say that this was the first contact of any kind, he had received in over a year of doing interviews for work.

    Jesus, thats mental.

    Sending emails wouldn't be much quicker. It's time that simply can't be justified 'wasting' to tell someone they didn't get a job.

    Its a common courtesy. Also, writing one email and bulk sending it to all the failed applicants would take about 10 minutes. And is still less inconsiderate than just leaving people hanging. The job my wife applied for in the cosmetics place would have been a dream job for her. And an actual chance at a real career. She made it known to the interviewer that she has a genuine passion and love for the brand, and that the job would have been a dream come true for her. She gave up an entire day to try out for them, if that doesnt warrant even a thanks but no thanks email, then i have to say, peoples standards have slipped disgracefully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,926 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Mocha Joe wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    Sensible post wannabe.
    What about the actions of the other couple of companies i mentioned too? If it was one campany id put it down to a bad luck or a poor interview, 3 times? Thats ****ing ridiculous.
    road_high wrote: »
    In fairness the op listed a few other experiences too.

    Well, as someone who interviews people on a regular basis as part of my job (and gets back to everyone who applies to let them know whether they got it or not), I'm in a fairly good position to say that no, not 'all employers/interviewers are a shower of *****'


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Caliden wrote: »
    Depending on the job, they could get hundreds of applicants.

    For example, 200 applicants for a job. 1 minute minimum to 2 mins max to make a call to tell them they didn't get the job. That's 200-400 minutes (between 3-6 hours!) to call people they didn't get the job.

    Sending emails wouldn't be much quicker. It's time that simply can't be justified 'wasting' to tell someone they didn't get a job.


    Are you kidding me? That's the sort of inefficiency that kills me! If the process was streamlined and done correctly from start to finish, the longest part of notifying applicants would be the five minute trip down to the post office to post the 200 letters.

    Emails are far more efficient again - can be responded to automatically in a matter of seconds with a couple of mouse clicks - 200 recipients notified of further interview or success or unsuccessful applications.


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