Frustration with Women!!!

StrugglingSoul

Does getting with girls(for young people) always have to involve dancing and drink? Is this why girls always have to be drunk to have one night stands? Is it because it's always something that they would otherwise feel guilty about? A few times I've worked up the courage to ask a girl out during the day and they've always seemed really surprised. Isn't it actually more respectful to do it this way. I don't get what's the big deal about it is.

I'm good looking but I'm not that good at dancing. Obviously I dance away anyway. This could either work for or against me. Sometimes I pretend to not be a lost soul on the dance-floor and try to look alive which I fear may only show how fake I really am and may prove counter-productive. I guess if I actually felt passion for the song playing(which others somehow do), and enjoyed dancing, then maybe it would work.

Whenever I do end up making out with a girl.. that's as far as it goes. There isn't any way of knowing how surprised she will be if I try to go for gold. If the answer is yes, I'd feel like the man and if the answer is no, I feel like I'm **** with women and it just ruins things from there on. This is something I never got.. I should feel the same way regardless of what their answer is, and realise that it's actually the luck of the draw.

It does annoy me though, to think that I end up going to so much trouble to chat up women and spending so much money.. all so that I can be told to **** off by one of them. Then I say to myself 'no wonder I hesitated approaching that girl' and realise on hindsight how it wasn't appropriate. BUT then later I realise that I wasn't wrong because I hesitate with most of the girls I approach anyway and can't afford to pass up any opportunity and that you have pretty much no idea how they are going to react anyway. The most annoying thing is that there actually isn't anywhere to decide where to draw the line between when IS is and ISN'T appropriate to approach a woman. It really makes me realise how much they actually have the upper hand over us.. and that if they didn't have a ****, they'd probably be extinct!!

And then after all this, it's women who get to act like they have better interpersonal skills than men!!!

jamesbondings

You think that's annoying. Just wait till your in a relationship.

Elbaston

Who the fvck dances to get girls ?
You're a white straight male you're not allowed.

Femme_Fatale

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

It really makes me realise how much they actually have the upper hand over us.. and that if they didn't have a ****, they'd probably be extinct!!

And then after all this, it's women who get to act like they have better interpersonal skills than men!!!

Had a feeling that video you posted was heading in this direction.

There are women reading this forum too by the way - no need for the "them" stuff.

You don't "have" to be dancing, and you don't always "have" to get a shag when you go out. Women you approach should not be rude to you and telling you to **** off, but none of them owe you sex. "If they didn't have a ****, they'd probably be extinct" - yeh if that's the attitude you have towards women, don't expect much from them.

StrugglingSoul

Elbaston wrote: »

Who the fvck dances to get girls ?
You're a white straight male you're not allowed.

I don't know what you mean. I a night club people can't hear each other so it's sort of what people rely on

Talib Fiasco

If you think this much about pulling girls, then that's your problem. Chill out man. There is over 3 billion women out there but only one you out there. Rejection is hard but it prevents you from wasting your time with attention seeking women.

And there are ways to spot a woman who'll be friendly. Relax man getting with girls is supposed to be fun. How can they want fun if you're so uptight and worried. Actions speak far louder than words.

spank_inferno

Just become gay.

Its much easier.

Its less about women issues... & more focused on bumming.

Less stress alround.

Elbaston

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

I don't know what you mean. I a night club people can't hear each other so it's sort of what people rely on

Stop going to clubs.

I remember them, they always were shyte, especially for meeting people, you'll meet more people if you actually can talk to them.

Dancing around like a dangling bell-end for 20 minutes to make eye* contact can be replaced by a simple hello.

A relationship will be much more straightforward too. Hello blah blah -> she does like you blah continues, she doesn't blah comes to an abrupt end.

Better than getting bumped around in a circle of vomit stained morons yoked off their heads trying to awkwardly bump into each other or block contact with their limbs.

*no, don't.

StrugglingSoul

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

you don't always "have" to get a shag when you go out.

I know but I've never got a shag. If I don't have to be dancing, then how?? How were you last bedded for example??

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Women you approach should not be rude to you and telling you to **** off, but none of them owe you sex.

Well I've never actually been treated that rudely but you know what I mean

Karl Stein

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

I'm not that good at dancing. Obviously I dance away anyway.

Hmmmm...

Femme_Fatale

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

I know but I've never got a shag. If I don't have to be dancing, then how??

What about viewing women in terms of having relationships with them, not just popping your cherry that night with?

How were you last bedded for example??

Guy I got chatting to in a bar on a night out. That's nearly always how any casual encounter I've had has happened for me.

StrugglingSoul

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

If you think this much about pulling girls, then that's your problem. Chill out man. There is over 3 billion women out there but only one you out there. Rejection is hard but it prevents you from wasting your time with attention seeking women.

And there are ways to spot a woman who'll be friendly. Relax man getting with girls is supposed to be fun. How can they want fun if you're so uptight and worried. Actions speak far louder than words.

Yeah yeah yeah. I've heard all that. Don't assume that I bring this frustration around with me when I leave home. Still being a virgin has forced me to think this much, which has made me realise a lot. Thinking is good, not bad.

brokenarms

I have the perfect woman for you


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTTwcCVajAc

Lux23

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

I know but I've never got a shag. If I don't have to be dancing, then how?? How were you last bedded for example??

I chatted my boyfriend up and bedded him.

jamesbondings

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

I know but I've never got a shag. If I don't have to be dancing, then how?? How were you last bedded for example??

Well I've never actually been treated that rudely but you know what I mean

Go to coppers any night of the week. If you can't get a shag there then unfortunately the problem is you and not women....

StrugglingSoul

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

What about viewing women in terms of having relationships with them, not just popping your cherry that night with?

Good you weren't offended by my last comment,

Yeah maybe if I were 17 again. But at this stage I think it would help in the overall scheme of things if I just lost it first and then worried about relationships. Besides.. who'd want a 22 yr old virgin.

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Guy I got chatting to in a bar on a night out. That's nearly always how any casual encounter I've had has happened for me.

How did he suggest it, if I may ask. And where did you go for the actual act??

StrugglingSoul

spank_inferno wrote: »

Just become gay.

Its much easier.

Its less about women issues... & more focused on bumming.

Less stress alround.

Lol. Well I wouldn't exactly want to be gay either. It may make women want me more and would be a way of going beneath the radar

You guys are faced with the dilemma of either sticking your dick into a man's smelly pooper OR getting defiled being left with a bloody bum.

Dr Turk Turkelton

Build a basement,then buy a van preferably with a window in the side panel.Whack in a bit of soundproofing and some "tools" of the trade(ropes,gags etc).

Then make a cool nickname for yourself(if I was starting again I would go with The CultureVulture and only take sophisticated wimmens.)

Then you can have many,many girlfriends.

P.s don't try the sophisticated ones first start small and work up.

All the best in your endeavors to pop your cherry.

Talib Fiasco

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

How did he suggest it, if I may ask. And where did you go for the actual act??

In my experience it's best to never suggest it directly...but ask her back to yours in a way that on paper is innocent but always has the other meaning. "Come on let's get a taxi, I'll make you a toastie. They're class.".... Something like that appears like a thing you'd say to a best friend but the girl will always know what's up. If she agrees then it's all but a given in fairness.

Kruse

Whatever you do stay the f___ away from the dancefloor....ffs!

If your name is not Michael Jackson, then you'll end up making a right tit of yourself. When women see men trying to dance they think they're great (but not in a sexual way). When a man sees a woman he fancies, that's it. No if's, but's or maybe's about it. Obviously women are different.

There are different levels of "interesting" to a woman. Interesting in a "this guy is amazing, he dances funny and he makes us laugh". This is different from the "this guy is amazing. I want to f____ him" kind of "interesting".

Some of my friends can't dance for sh__.....but it doesn't stop them doing it. Me on the other hand, look like a castrated duck when dancing so I don't. Here is the interesting part.....women see these mates as clowns. Funny to be around, great craic etc. but no interest in going home with them. I'm not too serious, but serious enough that she knows I'm not there to make her laugh while making a tit of myself.

Approach women in the smoking area, OP. If they're interested, you'll know because they'll look twice or three times. We don't look at women we don't fancy. As bad as it sounds, we don't even realise they're there. The same with women. No woman is going to look at you twice if she's not interested. When she looks at you twice, go and talk.

Smidge

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

Good you weren't offended by my last comment,

Yeah maybe if I were 17 again. But at this stage I think it would help in the overall scheme of things if I just lost it first and then worried about relationships. Besides.. who'd want a 22 yr old virgin.



How did he suggest it, if I may ask. And where did you go for the actual act??

OP, there is NOTHING wrong with being a 22 year old virgin.
But there is NOTHING worse than coming across as desperate.

What I'm getting from your posts is not that you want a relationship but are desperate to have sex.
So OP, decide which it is!
If its sex you are after, dont dress it up as if you want relationship advice. Just go and have sex with someone, anyone.
If it is a relationship you want that leads to sex well, different kettle of fish.

Girls like gettin laid


Just sayin

Smidge

Deleted User wrote: »

Girls like gettin laid


Just sayin

Quiet you!

StrugglingSoul

Smidge wrote: »

Just go and have sex with someone, anyone.

If only it were that simple. And just anyone isn't good enough for me.

BTW we've already established that it's sex I'm after long ago

Kruse

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

If only it were that simple. And just anyone isn't good enough for me.

BTW we've already established that it's sex I'm after long ago

Your best bet is to hire a prostitute.

srs

jamesbondings

Smidge wrote: »

OP,.
If it is a relation you want that leads to sex well, different kettle of fish.

Pretty sure he's not that desperate

StrugglingSoul

Kruse wrote: »

Your best bet is to hire a prostitute.

srs

Unfortunately that's not an option either. Too disgusting for me

Smidge

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

If only it were that simple. And just anyone isn't good enough for me.

BTW we've already established that it's sex I'm after long ago

Okay then.
If its just sex, why the rigmarole?

You are not the only person in Ireland who wants to have sex, I'm sure!

But unless you are a Hollywood hunk etc you won't be able to just walk up to the woman in a coffee shop and pull(its not the movies). And its not just that simple.

What do you think should happen OP?

Kruse

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

Unfortunately that's not an option either. Too disgusting for me

Why? At least she'll pretend she likes it.

:pac:

Smidge

jamesbondings wrote: »

Pretty sure he's not that desperate

Which part disgusts?
Relationship or lead? :cool:

DubVelo

Wimmin are like buses.

StrugglingSoul

Smidge wrote: »

Okay then.
If its just sex, why the rigmarole?

Because there is apparently rigmarole involved in getting sex. I guess it's about the feeling of having earned it, so that I'll know that I'll be able to get it again. I do like the thrill of the chase too

StrugglingSoul

Kruse wrote: »

Why? At least she'll pretend she likes it.

:pac:

That's another thing that annoys me. I know they'd love it. I've been told by strippers that I've a huge cock

Smidge

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

Because there is apparently rigmarole involved in getting sex. I guess it's about the feeling of having earned it, so that I'll know that I'll be able to get it again. I do like the thrill of the chance too

OP, you are confusing sex with emotions.
If you really just need to have sex I don't understand the "earned" it part.
Sex without a relationship can be healthy if you do not attach too much baggage to it(and the partner likewise).

Still not clear on what you really want, maybe that's the problem?
You say you want sex but it still seems like you want a relationship

DubVelo

DubVelo wrote: »

Wimmin are like buses.

Get you where you want to go?

Smidge

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

That's another thing that annoys me. I know they'd love it. I've been told by strippers that I've a huge cock

You had us going there for a minute

Bipolar Joe

Yeah, don't go to clubs. They're ****e and you have competition. It's a numbers game. The ratio of chicks to dudes will always be against you there. I'm not joking here when I say chicks can sense desperation. Fuck, your username alone, dude. It's awful. Once I realised I can do whatever I want and don't care about having sex or any of that, I didn't have to impress chicks and could just talk normal at their stupid faces. They seemed to dig that. Don't care, gonna go home, watch cartoons and listen to Screeching Weasel. So just don't care, the right chicks dig it when you don't care too much.

StrugglingSoul

Smidge wrote: »

OP, you are confusing sex with emotions.
If you really just need to have sex I don't understand the "earned" it part.
Sex without a relationship can be healthy if you do not attach too much baggage to it(and the partner likewise).

Still not clear on what you really want, maybe that's the problem?
You say you want sex but it still seems like you want a relationship

I want sex AND to know how to sex efficiently. That should sum it up. No mention of a relationship

Kruse

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

I want sex AND to know how to sex efficiently. That should sum it up. No mention of a relationship

I say you're a troll.

StrugglingSoul

Kruse wrote: »

I say you're a troll.

GTFO or I'll bash ya!!

jamesbondings

Smidge wrote: »

Which part disgusts?
Relationship or lead? :cool:

The bit where you implied about sex with a RELATION....

Smidge

jamesbondings wrote: »

The bit where you implied about sex with a RELATION....

I would never condone such an aberration
*apart from the folks in Leitrim:D

kowloon

Deleted User wrote: »

Girls like gettin laid


Just sayin

You've been around here long enough to know better. Women hate teh sex and they're the enemy. Also, something about locks.

GalwayGuy2

Quote:
Originally Posted by DubVelo
Wimmin are like buses.

Get you where you want to go?

They never come when I'm there?

Mickey H

DubVelo wrote: »

Wimmin are like buses.

2 come along at once??

anncoates

"StrugglingSoul wrote: »

I'm good looking but I'm not that good at dancing

Surely the greatest Smiths song title that never ended up being written.

up for anything

StrugglingSoul wrote: »

It does annoy me though, to think that I end up going to so much trouble to chat up women and spending so much money.. all so that I can be told to **** off by one of them.

Use prostitutes and pay for sex. Then you won't feel like you've been cheated of the Gold! :rolleyes:

You sound like a calculating chap and you probably don't realise that it comes across in your eyes regardless of your fake Mr Nice Guy approach which is why you keep getting knocked back. Bundy had that problem until he learned to warm up his eyes.

Fuzzytrooper

DubVelo wrote: »

Wimmin are like buses.

Their wheels go round and round?

Grayson

Mickey H wrote: »

2 come along at once??

If you can get two to come at the exact time you have skills.

Chancer3001

Just go to a late bar where you can talk.

Or a club that has some area you can talk in.

And chill out. A lot.

Vision of Disorder

Kruse wrote: »

I say you're a troll.

If he's not a troll it's abundantly clear from this thread why he can't get laid tbh.