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Joey Dunlop

  • 12-09-2013 11:18pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭


    Would Joey Dunlop be considered the most successful Sportsman this Island has seen ? or can you think of someone more successful ?l

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    uch wrote: »
    Would Joey Dunlop be considered the most successful Sportsman this Island has seen ? or can you think of someone more successful ?l


    A very quiet and humble man.


    I had the pleasure of a good long chat with him many year ago at the Skerries 100 road races.:)

    A great great road racer and an absolute legend too.:D

    RIP Joey No3.......






  • Closed Accounts Posts: 519 ✭✭✭thecatspjs


    George Best? Paul Brady?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭Howard Juneau


    Michael Ducksy Walsh perhaps


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    thecatspjs wrote: »
    George Best? Paul Brady?

    You sure know your sport... :rolleyes:

    It's Liam Brady.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    thecatspjs wrote: »
    George Best? Paul Brady?

    Most successful sportsman ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    Never thought about Duxie, but the question stands

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Is this gonna be one of those threads wherre people give opinions and get attacked because they go against the popular view of a dead guy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    Packie Bonner. Great goalkeeper and always seemed pleasant off the pitch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 519 ✭✭✭thecatspjs


    uch wrote: »
    Most successful sportsman ?

    He won four handball world championships in a row like!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Brady_(handballer)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    I'm from Norn Iron but not a bike fan at all. However I've saw loads if stuff on you tube and tv about yer man and I'm amazed at most of it.

    He was revered around the world as being top of what one could argue is the most dangerous sport in the world today. I don't even feel safe watching it. (North West 200 for me) its a wonder these guys don't av a side car to hold their ginormous balls.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Brego888


    My opinion on greatest sportsperson is that they need to have been involved in sports that are truly international, played by millions and highly competitive.
    And while motor racing has its merits I wouldn't compare his achievements as favourably as the likes of Roy Keane or Padraig Harrington in football or golf.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    timthumbni wrote: »
    I'm from Norn Iron but not a bike fan at all. However I've saw loads if stuff on you tube and tv about yer man and I'm amazed at most of it.

    He was revered around the world as being top of what one could argue is the most dangerous sport in the world today. I don't even feel safe watching it. (North West 200 for me) its a wonder these guys don't av a side car to hold their ginormous balls.


    208 mph is the record top speed on the potholed/bumpy public roads up there.


    I was there myself and fcuk me the bikes were really moving.:D:D




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    Name of Thread is Joey Dunlop, OP is different...
    uch wrote: »
    Would Joey Dunlop be considered the most successful Sportsman this Island has seen ? or can you think of someone more successful ?l

    Kevin O' Flanagan?
    Kevin O'Flanagan, is a former Irish sportsman, physician and sports administrator. An outstanding all-rounder, he represented his country at both soccer and rugby union. He was also a noted sprinter and long jumper and as a youth played Gaelic football. In his spare time he also played golf and tennis at a decent level. O'Flanagan played soccer for among others, Bohemians and Arsenal, and as an international he played for both Ireland teams – the FAI XI and the IFA XI. O'Flanagan also played rugby union for UCD, London Irish and Ireland.
    Sports administrator and doctor

    O'Flanagan returned to Dublin in the 1950s and established a successful practice at Upper Fitzwilliam Street. He briefly revived his soccer career with Bohemians and remained involved in sport throughout the rest of his life. During subsequent decades he served on numerous bodies and held various positions in the areas of sports and medicine. These include:
    • President of the Irish Sports Medicine Association:
    • Chairman of the Irish National Rehabilitation Board
      • President of World Congress for Rehabilitation: 1969
    • Council of People for the Handicapped, USA.
    • Chief Medical Officer of Athletic Association of Ireland
    • Chief Medical Officer at Bohemians:196x-197x
    • Chief Medical Officer of Irish Olympic Team: 1960–1976


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    Brego888 wrote: »
    My opinion on greatest sportsperson is that they need to have been involved in sports that are truly international, played by millions and highly competitive.
    And while motor racing has its merits I wouldn't compare his achievements as favourably as the likes of Roy Keane or Padraig Harrington in football or golf.

    You have to be Coddin' Seriously !

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    KKkitty wrote: »
    Packie Bonner. Great goalkeeper and always seemed pleasant off the pitch.

    Always wondered where the nickname 'Packie' came from?

    Best two sportsmen from the island of Ireland were IMO Joe Dunlop (1) and George Best (2).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Always wondered where the nickname 'Packie' came from?

    Best two sportsmen from the island of Ireland were IMO Joe Dunlop (1) and George Best (2).

    Isn't his real name Patrick Bonner?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Always wondered where the nickname 'Packie' came from?

    Best two sportsmen from the island of Ireland were IMO Joe Dunlop (1) and George Best (2).
    Packie isn't a nickname, it's a common derivation of Patrick in Donegal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    KKkitty wrote: »
    Isn't his real name Patrick Bonner?


    Yep, most successful sportsman is what we're on about

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    uch wrote: »
    Yep, most successful sportsman is what we're on about

    He was there for the good times of Irish international football and who will forget the penalty he saved against Romania.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    FearDark wrote: »
    You sure know your sport... :rolleyes:

    It's Liam Brady.

    Wow you really are quite the expert.
    A multiple time world champion in one of the most physically demanding sports in the world and you can'teven get his name right?
    True sports fan you are.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    I'll repeat the question for those who didn't read the OP,,,

    Would Joey Dunlop be considered the most successful Sportsman this Island has seen ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    paddy147 wrote: »
    208 mph is the record top speed on the potholed/bumpy public roads up there.


    I was there myself and fcuk me the bikes were really moving.

    I have only saw the practice laps on the nw 200 and you really need to experience it live to see how mad the riders are. When I say they are going fast it is like something out of a ps3 game only game over in this can and will mean death.

    The average speed is mind numbing around public roads. Valentino rossi thinks the road racers are nuts Ffs. Brick walls, barb wire, telegraph polls all on b class roads at 200 mph at times. Mad.

    I don't know if he's the best Irish sportsman but he must be up there. Rad up about his charity exploits as well. Unlike a lot of modern day sportsmen his head wasn't up his own arse either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    Sonia O Sullivan?
    Sean Kelly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    uch wrote: »
    I'll repeat the question for those who didn't read the OP,,,

    Would Joey Dunlop be considered the most successful Sportsman this Island has seen ?

    In his chosen sport he was but there are other sports people from the island of Ireland who had more success.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    uch wrote: »
    I'll repeat the question for those who didn't read the OP,,,

    Would Joey Dunlop be considered the most successful Sportsman this Island has seen ?


    I would deem him to be worthy of the title.:)


    Another person who I have fond memmories of is Martin Finnegan.

    He was a great road racer and was just about to make it big time when tragidy sadly struck.

    RIP Martin 45.....gone but never forgotten.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    KKkitty wrote: »
    In his chosen sport he was but there are other sports people from the island of Ireland who had more success.


    Carry on, Who?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    darced wrote: »
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    Bollocks!, what sports are you talking about?

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    timthumbni wrote: »
    I have only saw the practice laps on the nw 200 and you really need to experience it live to see how mad the riders are. When I say they are going fast it is like something out of a ps3 game only game over in this can and will mean death.

    The average speed is mind numbing around public roads. Valentino rossi thinks the road racers are nuts Ffs. Brick walls, barb wire, telegraph polls all on b class roads at 200 mph at times. Mad.

    I don't know if he's the best Irish sportsman but he must be up there. Rad up about his charity exploits as well. Unlike a lot of modern day sportsmen his head wasn't up his own arse either.

    Martin Jessop hit a record 208mph on his Ducati Superbike there a few years ago.The downloaded data from his superbike showed the back wheel was spinning up at that speed and they rekon he was doing around 213mph.But 208mph was officialy registered/recorded.




    BBC followed Joey over to Romania,Belarus and other parts of Eastern Europe to the orphanages.

    He drove there and back himself in his van on many occasions to bring the orphaned kids and their carers the vital goods,supplies and toys that they needed.

    He got an OBE for all his charity work.

    On 31 December 2009 Joey Dunlop was voted 3rd greatest Irish sportsperson ever.

    An absolute legend on and off the road race circuits.:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    Is this gonna be one of those threads wherre people give opinions and get attacked because they go against the popular view of a dead guy?

    Yes, apparently so..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    paddy147 wrote: »
    I would deem him to be worthy of the title.:)


    Another person who I have fond memmories of is Martin Finnegan.

    He was a great road racer and was just about to make it big time when tragidy sadly struck.

    RIP Martin 45.....gone but never forgotten.:)

    That was a great clip. I know that was tandragee but you can see how narrow the road is on the video. On a car I would drive at 40 mph on that road.

    Those guys most love the danger. Is their any other modern day sport as dangerous? I doubt it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭flas


    a legend in his sport and one of our best,yes,no doubt,but in international sport no...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    Joey Dunlop for me too. Great to see his name on afterhours. 26 TT's to his name, a record. If anyone has seen Irish road racing should go and see it. Look on YouTube for a guy called lockk9. Some serious videos.

    I believe in another 10 - 20 years his nephew Michael Dunlop could be also be one of the greatest Irish sporting heros. Four TT wins this year and he is only 24. Absolutely amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Brego888 wrote: »
    My opinion on greatest sportsperson is that they need to have been involved in sports that are truly international, played by millions and highly competitive.
    And while motor racing has its merits I wouldn't compare his achievements as favourably as the likes of Roy Keane or Padraig Harrington in football or golf.

    You definitely are taking the p##s.?
    Great respect for Harrington,winner of 3 Majors but his form has seriously waned in recent years. Not the type of performances that could put him in the category the OP has mentioned. He's not even challenging for honours these times.
    As for Keane, what exactly has he achieved on an international stage?, except for having the infamous distinction of walking away when he was needed most.
    Just imagine Joey Dunlop refusing to race because the road was wet, that's how stupid Keanes argument was.!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭brokenarms


    uch wrote: »
    You have to be Coddin' Seriously !

    Maybe he was out all weekend playing golf when channels air BSB, WSB and MotoGP. Friday to Sunday.. all day long .

    I personally think its a bit disrespectful to drag Joey,s good name through the riggers of afterhours debate. If you are not in the bike seen then you won't know much about it.

    The rest of the world has a massive bike following
    .But Ireland, although we have currently some of the best riders in the world competing in the top 5 of the World Super Bikes, it will always be obsessed with Bog ball and English soccer.

    I would nearly bet my house on the fact that people in spain know more of the Laverty brothers than people in Ireland.

    I blame the rain. And road racing. If we had the tracks the UK have...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    darced wrote: »
    Hopefully if he lives long enough to fulfill his potential,such a dangerous sport.

    True. The TT has claimed 240 lifes and Irish road racing over 40. His dad died in 2008 in the Ulster go I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    brokenarms wrote: »
    The rest of the world has a massive bike following
    .But Ireland, although we have currently some of the best riders in the world competing in the top 5 of the World Super Bikes, it will always be obsessed with Bog ball and English soccer.
    Yep that's right, in order to support your chosen sport make denigrating remarks about others.

    If we're going to name sportsmen who have excelled in sports with limited international appeal then Henry Shefflin is worth a shout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭flas


    washman3 wrote: »
    You definitely are taking the p##s.?
    Great respect for Harrington,winner of 3 Majors but his form has seriously waned in recent years. Not the type of performances that could put him in the category the OP has mentioned. He's not even challenging for honours these times.
    As for Keane, what exactly has he achieved on an international stage?, except for having the infamous distinction of walking away when he was needed most.
    Just imagine Joey Dunlop refusing to race because the road was wet, that's how stupid Keanes argument was.!

    bollocks,any true sports fan in this country has to acknowledge that roy keane was one of,if not the best at what he did in a truely international sport...


    he is up there with coughlan and roache..


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    uch wrote: »
    I'll repeat the question for those who didn't read the OP,,,

    Would Joey Dunlop be considered the most successful Sportsman this Island has seen ?

    He gets my vote


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    flas wrote: »
    he is up there with coughlan and roache..

    If you're going to mention an Irish cyclist when talking about "the best ever" Roache doesn't even enter the conversation, there is only one option, and it's Kelly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭Howard Juneau


    OP, what are the criteria for picking the greatest sportsperson from this isle?
    Can we set some sort of parameters instead of just shouting names & then set up a poll....I do like a good poll!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭McTigs


    Sean Kelly!

    World No.1 for five consecutive years and an absolute animal on the bike!

    Sean-Kelly-246x300.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Duck's hoop


    flas wrote: »
    bollocks,any true sports fan in this country has to acknowledge that roy keane was one of,if not the best at what he did in a truely international sport...


    he is up there with coughlan and roache..

    As has been pointed out, he achieved nothing internationally. Most sports, including moto racing, are international. Except of course hurling and a few others.

    Whoever mooted Shefflin is just being wilfully obstreperous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    thecatspjs wrote: »
    George Best? Paul Brady?



    FearDark wrote: »
    You sure know your sport... :rolleyes:

    It's Liam Brady.
    uch wrote: »
    Most successful sportsman ?

    HAHA!!! In your face bitches....;)






    thecatspjs wrote: »
    He won four handball world championships in a row like!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Brady_(handballer)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    Brego888 wrote: »
    My opinion on greatest sportsperson is that they need to have been involved in sports that are truly international, played by millions and highly competitive.
    And while motor racing has its merits I wouldn't compare his achievements as favourably as the likes of Roy Keane or Padraig Harrington in football or golf.

    Bike racing is pretty huge tbh. The reason more people don't get involved in it compared to say football is because it's scary as fcuk!

    Anybody anyway interested in bikes should watch the docufilm "closer to the edge" Them guys have balls!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭Howard Juneau


    McTigs wrote: »
    Sean Kelly!

    World No.1 for five consecutive years and an absolute animal on the bike!

    Sean-Kelly-246x300.jpg

    But he wasn't clean


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭_Puma_


    I don't think there can be much argument about whether he is up there as one of the greatest. The greatest coming down to personal opinion. After watching a documentary about the guy on ITV around about the time the TT was on, it was quiet clear the guy was a hard working, down to earth gentleman and a legend in International road racing. Was such a tragedy how his life ended short as he would have been a great ambassador for the sport once he retired from road racing.

    Personally I think the guy is the greatest. The dedication and the way he just got on with it when obstacles were put up against him was just amazing. Even after becoming the most successful road racer in the world he was still the down earth and ordinary guy. The way he came back from Injury's and set backs when people would have him written off. If people want to make an informed decision about him I would definitely watch that documentary, kinda puts all the crap about modern day football stars etc.. into perspective


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    Keane > Dunlop


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