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Sleep Apnoea and CPAP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,444 ✭✭✭wonga77


    Started back with a cpap machine a few days ago. Its the airsense 10. I initially tried it a few years back but couldnt get used to it. I had no choice but to try it again.
    Despite receiving decent scores on the app, I dont wake up feeling any better or refreshed.
    Gonna stick with it though and hopefully things improve



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,305 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I had a bit of a breakthough recently. I was put on permanent pressure rather than demand pressure, set at 19 - which is high - as I was not responding adequately to demand pressure. It didn't seem to be making a lot of difference, and I had tightened the mask to keep it on. Then I found the foam seal was splitting so I contacted Resmed and got an appointment with their nurse/technician. She said that I was getting a lot of events in the half hour ramp period so she removed the ramp. There was also another issue related to exhaling, that I didn't understand but she changed. It made a lot of difference. The immediate high pressure is a bit unnerving at first, but I have got used to it, and I have been getting much better scores, including a couple of 0.0, which I have never got before. I still get high numbers if I lie on my back but I mostly have trained myself not to do that and its only occasional. I am still not getting much better than 5 hours sleep, but I have some ideas to try and improve that.

    This kind of proactive approach by the technician is way more than I have ever had from a consultant, they never seem to manage more than fiddling with overall pressure or moving from demand to permanent pressure, and in fact some of the stuff some consultants have told me amounts to pure nonsense.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,444 ✭✭✭wonga77


    Which mask are you using? I have been trying to figure out if the nasal mask or this newer pillow one works better, its the airfit n30



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,305 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I have the Airtouch F20 cushion, full face, they have to be replaced every month.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,444 ✭✭✭wonga77


    I tried that one in the past. Once a month? Does the seal break or what? I would have thought you would get longer out of it



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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,305 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    It has quite a delicate foam/sponge seal on it that cannot be washed so after a month it becomes ineffective because of the build up of facial oils. I can often get it to go to 5 weeks but on average it lasts a bit over a month. I use one until I get excess leakage from it then change it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭tnegun


    I found that I can extend the life of the F20 cushion mask to 2 - 3 months by cleaning my face before bed with a baby wipe and cleaning the mask with a wipe in the morning. They're expensive but worth it for comfort and seal so the longer I can get out of them the better!



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,444 ✭✭✭wonga77


    Not far off a month with the cpap. Good scores, mask seal, low incidents etc.
    Getting 7 - 8 hours most nights, unfortunately I see zero difference in my day to day life, dont feel in anyway refreshed at all which is dissapointing.
    The nurses have been lovely and just told me it takes time to undo so many bad years of sleep. I hope they are right…



  • Registered Users Posts: 572 ✭✭✭FaganJr


    Took me 3 months, couldn't imagine life without it now!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭forzacalcio


    Hi all, just a quick one, its probably been mentioned a few times but . Ive been paying €110 per month for 5 years now (I know I need to go out and buy one straight out) How much can I get back on DPS or is it even worth it?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭forzacalcio


    Same here, took about a month and I was an extreme case and its absolutely changed my life, my snoring has gone too which is a massive bonus for others 😁



  • Registered Users Posts: 722 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Hiya,

    You can get back a nice bit of cash..

    Think I got about €1300 for 4 years of receipts … but its variable.. depends on how much over the monthly limit you pay out for prescriptions..

    I'm shite on the details so maybe ring revenue to find out more…

    Not sure what the limit is currently… but its for your whole household.. so if you've to pay for prescriptions for the kids etc it all adds up.

    But basically its like.. add up all your payout for a month on antibiotics or whatever.. add that to the €110 to get the total for the month.. and then however much over the limit .. thats what you are claiming on..

    It is a pain in the hole cos you have to fill in forms and have ALL your prescription receipts…

    Also I think you have to have signed up for the DPS scheme?

    One thing that makes it a bit easier is if you use the one chemist/pharmacy and they might print you out a list of your purchases… and then you can chase em all up ..figure out which ones you can find.. if they know you they might print out missing ones for you if you cant locate them..

    If you ring revenue they might let you do it all on one form apparently..

    Still, look, its your money.. go get it ! Ring revenue, start there..



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,961 ✭✭✭trashcan


    I tried it for three months on 2 separate occasions. Absolute waste of time. I was getting no sleep at all with it. Felt like I was suffocating. Totally counter productive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,444 ✭✭✭wonga77


    Im struggling to see the benefit as well. I didnt wear it at all 2 nights ago and didnt feel great yesterday, admittedly id had a few drinks and didn't sleep well anyway.
    Went to bed early last night absolutely wrecked and amazingly got 9 hours sleep with the mask on, the longest ive ever managed in one go. Perfect score, perfect mask seal. 0.6 events per hour.
    Woke up this morning at about 8.30 and had yawned 3 times before i got to the kitchen.
    Tired now writing this, dont feel in any way fresh or like i even slept at all, beginning to think my sleep issues are more deep rooted.

    Edited to say, i have been sleeping pretty well in general with the mask even if i find it to be a pain in the ass, my wife says i sleep more peacefully now and dont toss and turn as much. Id still like to see some or any benefit in my general day to day life though



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,305 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I've been in that situation of feeling tired after an apparently good night's sleep. I went off demand pressure onto constant 18 for a few months and it was a disaster. I am back on demand and mysteriously I am sleeping much better than the previous, demand pressure situation, fewer events, longer sleep time, and fresher during the day. The technician made a couple of adjustments and I am not sure if they helped - removed the ramp and something else that I don't understand, to do with exhaling, anyway its better.

    I did the 'its too much trouble and not doing me any good' thing for about 8 years between one diagnosis and a new diagnosis (severe sa) and ended up with atrial fibrillation, that is now finally under control but I am on very heavy medication for it. So you should not dismiss sa. If you had a recording oximeter you may well find that your blood oxygen goes very low, mine tips 70 and spends a lot of time around the 80s when I am sleeping without the mask, which is very damaging to your heart, so I wear the mask in spite of hating the damn thing.



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