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The McCanns

  • 12-09-2013 01:36PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭


    Kate McCann, the mother of missing girl Madeleine, will attend a Portuguese court on Thursday for the start of the family's libel action against a former local police chief.

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/12/kate-mccann-portugal-libel-case
    The family is seeking around £1m in damages.

    How much money d'ya reckon they've squeezed out of their daughter's 'kidnapping'?

    Y'know, you want to feel sorry for them, you want to believe them but it's hard to give them the benefit of the doubt. I still think they did it, the only thing that would change my mind would be if she was found alive.


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  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/12/kate-mccann-portugal-libel-case



    How much money d'ya reckon they've squeezed out of their daughter's 'kidnapping'?

    Y'know, you want to feel sorry for them, you want to believe them but it's hard to give them the benefit of the doubt. I still think they did it, the only thing that would change my mind would be if she was found alive.

    TBH, they sorta do deserve the money from the Portuguese police. I'm as suspicious as you are, but like it or not, those guys messed up royally.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭cletus van damme


    I still think they did it, the only thing that would change my mind would be if she was found alive.

    what would happen if somebody came forward with the body and said "I did it"
    would you still blame them?


    Personally I think they are innocent and have suffered enough without people still poking digs at them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Innocent until proven guilty still alive and well on Boards it would seem :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭kfk


    The McCanns dont deserve any compensation! They neglected their children plain and simple are are not fit to be parents. The only person I feel sorry for is Madeleine.


  • Site Banned Posts: 34 Henry Gondorff


    Am I the only one who would like to play hide the salami with Kate?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,353 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/12/kate-mccann-portugal-libel-case



    How much money d'ya reckon they've squeezed out of their daughter's 'kidnapping'?

    Y'know, you want to feel sorry for them, you want to believe them but it's hard to give them the benefit of the doubt. I still think they did it, the only thing that would change my mind would be if she was found alive.

    If you ever have a child and have them disappear in such circumstances then you might change your tune. Honestly it's hard to believe that someone who would do something to their child would spend so much time publicising it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Yeah its an odd one. On the one hand the police did mess the thing up. On the other do the parents which are not blameless in this whole thing due to neglecting to mind their own child deserve damages ?

    By all means look over the investigation and deal with the police as necessary but the parents dont deserve a payout over it.

    They're suing him for libel, not for messing up the investigation as such. Therefore, they do deserve damages if he's found guilty.


  • Site Banned Posts: 63 ✭✭Carrie Madshaw


    There have been countless cases in history whereby parents of missing children or victims of abuse have felt that justice wasn't served or that the police acted incompetently but they don't all expect massive pay outs as compensation.

    I don't really believe they played a part in her disappearance aside from the neglect aspect of it but there is something a bit crude about expecting that kind of pay-out. Something has never sat right with me about that pair but innocent until proven guilty and all that. It's hard to still feel any real emotion towards them seeing as so much time has passed and they've plastered themselves all over the media since day one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    "I think they did it so therefore they definitely did it, it's a fact and I'm going to use quote-marks around 'kidnapping' in order to demonstrate how it's a fact that she wasn't kidnapped."

    If my child disappeared, I'd use all the publicity I could to find them. People who claim they wouldn't obviously wouldn't care that much about their child... or, more likely, they haven't a clue what they'd do if they're child were kidnapped.

    That said, they definitely ****ed up that night for not getting a babysitter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,320 ✭✭✭weiland79


    somuj wrote: »
    Couldn't give a fcuk if they killed her or not. Plenty of other missing kids in the world apart from these pair of muppets kid. Sick of hearing about them. Hope some Portuguese citizen takes the law into their own hands and puts them out of their misery.



    Righty oh then :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    There have been countless cases in history whereby parents of missing children or victims of abuse have felt that justice wasn't served or that the police acted incompetently but they don't all expect massive pay outs as compensation.

    Read the OP - they're not suing for incompetence, but for libel.

    The investigating officer, having been fired, went off and wrote a book saying the McCanns most likely murdered their daughter and that's why they're suing him.


  • Site Banned Posts: 63 ✭✭Carrie Madshaw


    Read the OP - they're not suing for incompetence, but for libel.

    The investigating officer, having been fired, went off and wrote a book saying the McCanns most likely murdered their daughter and that's why they're suing him.

    Ah ok, I didn't realise that. I've never fully understood the concept of massive pay-outs in cases like these. I know the investigating officer wronged them and slandered them but he got fired. Should him losing his job not be reward enough? Money isn't gonna make her come back or undo any pain that's been caused.
    I agree they deserve something but it seems an extortinate amount.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Ah ok, I didn't realise that. I've never fully understood the concept of massive pay-outs in cases like these. I know the investigating officer wronged them and slandered them but he got fired. Should him losing his job not be reward enough? Money isn't gonna make her come back or undo any pain that's been caused.
    I agree they deserve something but it seems an extortinate amount.

    The money might enable them to continue their campaign looking for her for a few more years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Ah ok, I didn't realise that. I've never fully understood the concept of massive pay-outs in cases like these. I know the investigating officer wronged them and slandered them but he got fired. Should him losing his job not be reward enough? Money isn't gonna make her come back or undo any pain that's been caused.
    I agree they deserve something but it seems an extortinate amount.

    He lost his job before he wrote the book and has made lots of money himself from it.

    You simply can't go around accusing innocent people of murder without consequences.


  • Site Banned Posts: 63 ✭✭Carrie Madshaw


    muddypaws wrote: »
    The money might enable them to continue their campaign looking for her for a few more years.

    Good point yeah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,437 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    the replies on boards seem to be sinking as low as the journal or youtube these days. Some nasty sh!t here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    what would happen if somebody came forward with the body and said "I did it"
    would you still blame them?


    Personally I think they are innocent and have suffered enough without people still poking digs at them

    If they wernt doctors, their other kids would have been taken off them for what they did.

    Suffered enough my ass, they are as quilty as whoever took the child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    somuj wrote: »
    Couldn't give a fcuk if they killed her or not. Plenty of other missing kids in the world apart from these pair of muppets kid. Sick of hearing about them. Hope some Portuguese citizen takes the law into their own hands and puts them out of their misery.

    charming


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭maximoose


    twinytwo wrote: »
    Suffered enough my ass, they are as quilty as whoever took the child.


    Assuming that actually happened


  • Site Banned Posts: 63 ✭✭Carrie Madshaw


    He lost his job before he wrote the book and has made lots of money himself from it.

    You simply can't go around accusing innocent people of murder without consequences.

    Really? I thought that's what all the cool kids were doing these days?

    I'm aware that you can't go around accusing people of murder without consequence
    but there was consequence; he got fired and is being sued. Also, you say 'innocent people'. Nobody knows for sure that they are innocent but I agree that writing a book about them is completely wrong and he deserves everything that's coming to him but i still don't think they should receive a million quid over it! I find it a bit vulgar. That's just my opinion.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭Jim van Morrison


    somuj wrote: »
    Hope some Portuguese citizen takes the law into their own hands and puts them out of their misery.

    What Portuguese law would you be 'enforcing' in that case?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Sunglasses Ron


    I'm all for fair trial, innocent until proven guilty but at best they are blatantly guilty of causing death by negligence, at worst actual murder/ manslaughter. If you examine every detail against them there is significant evidence they are hiding something, and the scale of their PR offensive only heightens my suspicions. The fact they are doctors and therefore a wealthy and b- renowned as one of the smarter professions around, makes you wonder why they were too tight to hire a babysitter. Something is just amiss. While one might argue that losing their child is punishment enough loads of parents have been charged and convicted for causing death or injury in, for example, drink driving cases with the kid in the car. The parents in this case were drinking presumably while the child died, it is not much different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭somuj


    What Portuguese law would you be 'enforcing' in that case?

    Where did I mention enforcing any laws? Can you not read ? ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭chopper6


    maximoose wrote: »
    Assuming that actually happened


    The parents know exactly what happened.,...and they've been keeping thier mouths shut ever since.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭Jim van Morrison


    somuj wrote: »
    Where did I mention enforcing any laws? Can you not read ? ?

    For someone to 'take the law into their own hands', doesn't there have to be a law there in the 1st place?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 488 ✭✭smoking_kills


    I'm all for fair trial, innocent until proven guilty but at best they are blatantly guilty of causing death by negligence, at worst actual murder/ manslaughter. If you examine every detail against them there is significant evidence they are hiding something, and the scale of their PR offensive only heightens my suspicions. The fact they are doctors and therefore a wealthy and b- renowned as one of the smarter professions around, makes you wonder why they were too tight to hire a babysitter. Something is just amiss. While one might argue that losing their child is punishment enough loads of parents have been charged and convicted for causing death or injury in, for example, drink driving cases with the kid in the car. The parents in this case were drinking presumably while the child died, it is not much different.

    My thoughts exactly..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Buzz84


    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/12/kate-mccann-portugal-libel-case



    How much money d'ya reckon they've squeezed out of their daughter's 'kidnapping'?

    Y'know, you want to feel sorry for them, you want to believe them but it's hard to give them the benefit of the doubt. I still think they did it, the only thing that would change my mind would be if she was found alive.

    So you reckon that they used their daughters disappearance to make money? That's a pretty disgusting accusation.

    Maybe you should take this into account. ''IF'' they had done it, wouldn't it be wise to move on and forget it happened. Instead they have continually highlighted it and continue the campaign to find their daughter.

    They have even managed to get the English police to investigate it, now if they had of done it that would be an almighty stupid move don't you think?

    They made a massive mistake which they paid the ultimate price for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    Are they still working doctors ,or has the celebrity gig taken over ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Buzz84


    kfk wrote: »
    The McCanns dont deserve any compensation! They neglected their children plain and simple are are not fit to be parents. The only person I feel sorry for is Madeleine.

    What makes you think they will pocket the money? More than likely use it for the search to find Madeline and to continue to highlight the search for her but no that would make to much sense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭somuj


    For someone to 'take the law into their own hands', doesn't there have to be a law there in the 1st place?

    This might help you.

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/vigilante


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