Stove Slipping on Hearth

buck8pe

Our little Stanley Oisin stove slips around and wobbles on the shiny marble hearth. When it was originally installed, the installer used fire cement to keep it in place, but the cement has crumbled and it doesn't seem like a very permanent solution to me. It doesn't have adjustable legs (as far as I can see), which is a pity.

I've thought of using non-slip pads under the feet, but I'm finding it difficult to find ones that are fire-proof and made for the job. Any ideas?

CJhaughey

Heat moves upwards, the legs won't get that hot.
I'd get some thin rubber matting and cut small squares for the legs to sit on.

scottie123

Hi Buck8pe,
How is the Oisin going for you. I'm in the process of choosing a wood burning stove and have more or less settled on the Oisin, but I'm wondering about whether or not the glass smokes up a lot. How have you found it, and what sort of a size room does it heat?
My room is about 3.5m x 4.5m. And the dimensions of the Oisin suit the space i need to fit a stove in....
Your thoughts are appreciated!

buck8pe

@CJhaughey: tks for that, I thought as much. Mind you, you'd be surprised how hot the surrounding area gets when she's running hot with a bit of coal. I think silicone matting is heat resistant. Anyway, I'm on the right track, it seems.

@scottie123: great little stove. We have an L-shaped open plan sitting/living/kitchen area ~50m^2 and it keeps it nice and toasty on relatively little fuel (compared to the open fire we had). The glass does get sooty, but I'm not too fussy about that. Give it a rub with a damp cloth when your emptying the pan and it's fine. The other trick we use is to leave the door open just a crack as she's lighting up and it helps to use a bit of stove coal to get the temp up a bit.

You can get heat resistant silicone from the motor factors, it's designed for replacing gaskets and will operate at high temperatures 130C or thereabouts.

StoveMaster

Hi Buck8pe
I hate to be blunt but "RTFM" page 6 to be precise. This page gives all the minimum distances to keep your Oisin away from surfaces, it does not give a distance for the legs however because the legs are to be placed on a heat/fire proof hearth(not pads) and they are connected to the ash pan compartment, the second hottest part of the stove. The Oisin stove is bought in by Stanley from LCC's (low cost country's) pre packed and ready for sale with zero work other than a small bit of shipping done in Ireland, with the exception of the enamel model which is the same pre packed stove stripped and enamelled and reassembled so you can be charged an extortionate rate for this minor piece of work. This is why the legs are not adjustable to keep down the cost.

Cjhaughey
Strictly speaking hot air travels upwards not heat. Heat convects, and will convect along some metals better than others. The best convectors of heat are copper and aluminium but obviously it would be impractical to make a stove from these materials as the price would be prohibitive so cast Iron is used as it is an extremely good convector of heat. So I'm sorry to say the legs will get quite hot as the heat will convect downward from the firebox to the ashpan compartment and down the legs and actually even heat the hearth. So rubber, bad idea... Unless you have a good fire alarm, or want to wake up dead some morning :-)


Scotty123
The Oisin stove has no separate air wash control (used to keep the glass clean) like other stoves in its size category. The spin valve for the primary air on the door is divided into 2 chambers at the back of the door one for primary air the other for air wash. When you have the spin valve open for primary air the air wash is working fine. When your fire is well lit up and you close off the spin valve you have zero air wash hench a black sooty glass. Trust me if you burn any timber it's impossible to clean because of the sap deposits, if you burn coal it's almost impossible to clean.

Dolanbaker
Silicone degrades over time, the more you heat it up and cool it down the more brittle it will become and start to flake into powder.


My suggestion for what it's worth;
1. Buy a stove that can be levelled properly with adjustable legs in the first place

2. Put a small piece of metal under one of the rear legs to level it, not ideal but safest option.

CJhaughey

I have a Morso squirrel and had the same problem, 4 small pads of rubber sorted it and to date 5yrs later haven't combusted or killed my family.
Maybe the Oisin is different but I have no problem with heat under the stove.

StoveMaster

CJhaughey wrote: »

I have a Morso squirrel and had the same problem, 4 small pads of rubber sorted it and to date 5yrs later haven't combusted or killed my family.
Maybe the Oisin is different but I have no problem with heat under the stove.

Hi Cj
whatever works for you is great, I'm from a techinal background so I will always see the dangers..... why can't the stove just be designed with leveling legs???? would make life so much easier.....

buck8pe

Thanks guys,

All good info. I agree with the point about the leveling legs, although they would need to have non-slip feet to completely solve my problem.

I suspect the manufacturer would recommend the stove be bolted to the hearth in situations like this, but it's not a solution that I would like.

@dolanbaker: I had heard of this solution from someone who fits stoves, but when I rang the auto-factors they had concerns that the silicone would not adhere well to the marble. They also doubted the silicone was rigid enough to prevent the stove from moving (even a slight movement over time would be enough to crack the fire cement around the flue).

Anyway, tks for all the suggestions.

StoveMaster

buck8pe wrote: »

Thanks guys,

All good info. I agree with the point about the leveling legs, although they would need to have non-slip feet to completely solve my problem.

I suspect the manufacturer would recommend the stove be bolted to the hearth in situations like this, but it's not a solution that I would like.

@dolanbaker: I had heard of this solution from someone who fits stoves, but when I rang the auto-factors they had concerns that the silicone would not adhere well to the marble. They also doubted the silicone was rigid enough to prevent the stove from moving (even a slight movement over time would be enough to crack the fire cement around the flue).

Anyway, tks for all the suggestions.

Hi buck8pe,
I just had an idea, what if you shim the stove body itself to support it, remove the offending leg that is causing the rocking and give it a slight grind?? would solve your problem I think.

what do you think???