iOS 7 GM/Public Release

Sad Professor · 30-09-2013 10:59am

mad muffin wrote: »

And also a useless feature as a way of finding a phone if they can just turn the phone off.:mad:

Yeah but they have to turn back on at some point, so unless you have the SIM lock enabled there's a good chance of it transmitting its location.

Its main usefulness is as a security feature to protect the privacy of your data. And if activation lock is successful, hopefully as a deterrent too. Knowing roughly where a thief lives isn't much use to most people. The Guards don't care. So unless you're willing to go breaking down doors with a baseball bat, knowing where your phone is isn't much help.

guil · 30-09-2013 4:58pm

even if you use DFU to restore it you can't use it until you enter the apple id password or else the phone won't activate

mad muffin · 30-09-2013 5:15pm

What happens now with iOS 7 if you want to sell your phone?

kensutz · 30-09-2013 5:19pm

mad muffin wrote: »

What happens now with iOS 7 if you want to sell your phone?

You can delete the device through iCloud.com and disassociate your AppleID with the iPhone. Or switch off Find My iPhone on the phone itself and sign out of your AppleID.

Sad Professor · 30-09-2013 5:26pm

mad muffin wrote: »

What happens now with iOS 7 if you want to sell your phone?

Well presumedly you'll want to restore it first. When you do so you'll be prompted to disabled Find My iPhone, which will also disable Activation Lock. So the new owner won't have any problems restoring it themselves.

The main risk in buying a second-hand phone is still the previous owner claiming insurance and blacklisting it.

califano · 01-10-2013 10:57am

Ive always upgraded the iphones IOS via itunes but wanted to give the over the air update to the latest 7.0.2 a try. Is this updating reliably for people over the air or are people generally updating via itunes?.

maximoose · 01-10-2013 11:01am

Yeah its grand, and takes considerably less time than iTunes.

culabula · 01-10-2013 11:44am

califano wrote: »

Ive always upgraded the iphones IOS via itunes but wanted to give the over the air update to the latest 7.0.2 a try. Is this updating reliably for people over the air or are people generally updating via itunes?.

All things being equal, it's the only way to do it!

However, you need to fulfil the following criteria:

Either have well over 50% battery or be plugged into the wall.

Be connected to wifi.

califano · 01-10-2013 11:53am

culabula wrote: »

All things being equal, it's the only way to do it!

However, you need to fulfil the following criteria:

Either have well over 50% battery or be plugged into the wall.

Be connected to wifi.

Thanks for the tip 50% didnt realise it needed to be this high.

DubDJ · 01-10-2013 12:50pm

culabula wrote: »

All things being equal, it's the only way to do it!

However, you need to fulfil the following criteria:

Either have well over 50% battery or be plugged into the wall.

Be connected to wifi.

I don't know if the 59% battery requirement is still there. I updated my iPhone and iPad to 7.0.2 recently and both had under 50%. Both OTA updates too, and it worked perfectly. Took about 10 mins to fully complete for both.

culabula · 01-10-2013 12:56pm

DubDJ wrote: »

I don't know if the 59% battery requirement is still there. I updated my iPhone and iPad to 7.0.2 recently and both had under 50%. Both OTA updates too, and it worked perfectly. Took about 10 mins to fully complete for both.

7.02 may work without at least 50% if one has 7.0 on board owing to the very small size of the update.

But updating from 6.0 to 7.02 will be refused if you don't fulfill the prerequisites.

culabula · 01-10-2013 12:58pm

califano wrote: »

Thanks for the tip 50% didnt realise it needed to be this high.

Hadn't noticed you had specified 7.02 so this may not apply after all as advised above. Try it and see!

Bummer1234 · 01-10-2013 8:17pm

Hi all,in the attachment below you will see an issue I'm having with my 4s,as I live near the border I require my phone to always be on manual network search and if it's in automatic it can go into roaming and charge me roaming rates,

the issue is when I try to go to manual my phone can't find any networks whatsoever,anyone else getting this?

I have tried hardresetting and still nothing.

guil · 01-10-2013 8:24pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

Well presumedly you'll want to restore it first. When you do so you'll be prompted to disabled Find My iPhone, which will also disable Activation Lock. So the new owner won't have any problems restoring it themselves.

The main risk in buying a second-hand phone is still the previous owner claiming insurance and blacklisting it.

Don't think that's right. I had to disable find my iPhone to restore my 5 but still had to sign in with my Apple ID to activate it afterwards. That was last week before sending it back to apple.

Sad Professor · 01-10-2013 8:42pm

Being asked to create or login using an Apple ID is a normal part of the activation process. It doesn't mean it's locked to your ID.

Disabling Find My iPhone disables Activation Lock as well. Otherwise you wouldn't have been able to restore. If you forcibly erase the phone you would be presented with a message that the phone is linked to an Apple ID.

Cushie Butterfield · 01-10-2013 9:04pm

Bummer1234 wrote: »

Hi all,in the attachment below you will see an issue I'm having with my 4s,as I live near the border I require my phone to always be on manual network search and if it's in automatic it can go into roaming and charge me roaming rates,

the issue is when I try to go to manual my phone can't find any networks whatsoever,anyone else getting this?

I have tried hardresetting and still nothing.

I've just tried switching automatic off & got the same result as your pic, but kept trying. After about eight attempts the other networks showed & show straight away now. Keep trying!

guil · 01-10-2013 9:07pm

The message I received was sign in with your Apple ID to activate this iPhone. The option to enter or create an Apple ID takes place a few steps after activation.

Today I received a replacement iPhone 5 and tried to get the gf to restore from iCloud while I was in work. The only thing it would do before it was activated with a sim was pick the language and join wifi.

Bummer1234 · 01-10-2013 9:08pm

Cushie Butterfield wrote: »

I've just tried switching automatic off & got the same result as your pic, but kept trying. After about eight attempts the other networks showed & show straight away now. Keep trying!

Cheers Cushie,Kept trying and trying and eventually it worked for me. Reck the head issue by the looks of it if ya head away and want a particular network.

matt-dublin · 01-10-2013 9:14pm

Does no one else think that activating airplane more from the lock screen is a way to bypass find my iPhone?

Sad Professor · 01-10-2013 9:14pm

guil wrote: »

The message I received was sign in with your Apple ID to activate this iPhone. The option to enter or create an Apple ID takes place a few steps after activation.

Strange. It definitely shouldn't do that. I guess Apple still have some bugs to work out.

guil · 01-10-2013 9:19pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

Strange. It definitely shouldn't do that. I guess Apple still have some bugs to work out.

I thought is was some security feature and thought it was pretty cool. Pity if it isn't like that.

Sad Professor · 01-10-2013 9:20pm

matt-dublin wrote: »

Does no one else think that activating airplane more from the lock screen is a way to bypass find my iPhone?

Sure. As discussed earlier in the thread, they can also disable it by turning the phone off.

There's not much Apple can do about this. Making it so that your passcode is required every time you turn the phone off or enable airplane mode would be a recipe for disaster. What if the phone crashed and became unresponsive? Besides, even if Apple did implement such a feature, what would stop a thief from taking out your SIM card?

Sad Professor · 01-10-2013 9:29pm

guil wrote: »

I thought is was some security feature and thought it was pretty cool. Pity if it isn't like that.

It's unnecessary. With Find My iPhone enabled, you can't restore the phone without the original owner's Apple ID. If that's you, you enter the password and the Activation Lock is disabled until you re-enable Find My iPhone post-restore. If you are a thief the phone won't restore. You can forcibly erase the phone using DFU mode but then you'll be presented with an activation screen.

Tying Activation Lock to Find My iPhone makes sense. Forcing users to mess around on iCloud.com to disable Activation Lock would create a lot of problems for people trying to sell their phones on.

space2ground1 · 02-10-2013 5:31pm

I have 900 photos in my photo stream on my mac and ipad.. Yet since iOS7, my phone will only download 144 of them, but happily adds new photos taken with the phone to the stream.

Anyone have an explanation for this oddness?!

Piliger · 02-10-2013 5:47pm

space2ground1 wrote: »

I have 900 photos in my photo stream on my mac and ipad.. Yet since iOS7, my phone will only download 144 of them, but happily adds new photos taken with the phone to the stream.

Anyone have an explanation for this oddness?!

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5323214?start=0&tstart=0

The Ayatolla · 02-10-2013 6:50pm

Solution: Use dropbox

Piliger · 02-10-2013 7:55pm

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Solution: Use dropbox

Indeed. It works like a charm and syncs with my desktop at the same time.

The Ayatolla · 02-10-2013 8:34pm

I've got 74GB of space too, from registering on various tablets and phones over the years. They never seem to take it away.

Piliger · 02-10-2013 10:07pm

The Ayatolla wrote: »

I've got 74GB of space too, from registering on various tablets and phones over the years. They never seem to take it away.

6.2Gb here. Are you sure you don't mean 7.4Gb ? Also keep an eye on Jottacloud. Not as functional, but 10Gb of space free.

The Ayatolla · 03-10-2013 6:31am

Piliger wrote: »

6.2Gb here. Are you sure you don't mean 7.4Gb ? Also keep an eye on Jottacloud. Not as functional, but 10Gb of space free.

It's actually 78GB!

I got 50GB free with a Samsung Galaxy Tab. And 25 recently for registering on a HTC One.

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