yara manure

jersey101

http://www.yara.co.uk/fertilizer/products/solid_product_range/compound_fertilizer/grassland_products.aspx

came across this last night. it would be some job if we could get the 0.24.24 fert here. you would grow some grass then

bob charles

jersey101 wrote: »

http://www.yara.co.uk/fertilizer/products/solid_product_range/compound_fertilizer/grassland_products.aspx

came across this last night. it would be some job if we could get the 0.24.24 fert here. you would grow some grass then

0-10-20 :rolleyes:

it would be nice if we could get AN 34%, surly a bit of lobbying by the IFA would bring about a change. or are we still living in the dark ages

moy83

jersey101 wrote: »

http://www.yara.co.uk/fertilizer/products/solid_product_range/compound_fertilizer/grassland_products.aspx

came across this last night. it would be some job if we could get the 0.24.24 fert here. you would grow some grass then

What price is it ? Can you not just put out your own mixture to get close to the 0.24.24 ?
Is anyone spreading the slag thats up on done deal ?

hammer73

jersey101 wrote: »

http://www.yara.co.uk/fertilizer/products/solid_product_range/compound_fertilizer/grassland_products.aspx

came across this last night. it would be some job if we could get the 0.24.24 fert here. you would grow some grass then

They declare fertiliser analysis in the oxide form in the UK and in elemental form here so the analysys wont look the same.

0-24-24 (UK analysis) = 0-10-20 (ROI analysis)

I work for Yara here in Ireland and we dont have that product here. We have the 0-20-30 which works out at around 0-9-25.

bob charles

hammer73 wrote: »

I work for Yara here in Ireland and we dont have that product here. We have the 0-20-30 which works out at around 0-9-25.

How much Yara product is coming into Ireland, never seen a bag down south but plenty "up the country". A greater selection of S incorporated products would be a bonus.

mf240

Will the os not be coming down in price after the shake up in the phosphate market?

jersey101

Just out of interest what is the highest compound manure you can get in ireland? A lad in the discussion group spread 0.15.10 in the spring and he had loads of grass when everyone else had none

Rovi

bob charles wrote: »

it would be nice if we could get AN 34%, surly a bit of lobbying by the IFA would bring about a change. or are we still living in the dark ages

The Powers-That-Be here are utterly paranoid about the general public having access to anything that could be used for nefarious purposes (take a look at the legislation/policy regarding fireworks or the reloading of ammunition, for example), so I'd say the chances of the return of high % AN to the Irish market are close to zero.

manjou

jersey101 wrote: »

Just out of interest what is the highest compound manure you can get in ireland? A lad in the discussion group spread 0.15.10 in the spring and he had loads of grass when everyone else had none

Who makes it and where can you get it

Sharpshooter82

could you just not take a trip up north

jersey101

manjou wrote: »

Who makes it and where can you get it

he got it off Cooney/furlong. They own target fertilizers so who ever sells target around you should have it

fiat10090dt

I used slag on all pasture found it improved grass grow i tink i will put 2bags acre on all farm next year at frist round

stanflt

hammer73 wrote: »

They declare fertiliser analysis in the oxide form in the UK and in elemental form here so the analysys wont look the same.

0-24-24 (UK analysis) = 0-10-20 (ROI analysis)

I work for Yara here in Ireland and we dont have that product here. We have the 0-20-30 which works out at around 0-9-25.

i use nutri booster, sulphar cut 16-16-16 0-20-30 27-6-0 from a dodgy dunleer based company;);););)

jersey101

fiat10090dt wrote: »

I used slag on all pasture found it improved grass grow i tink i will put 2bags acre on all farm next year at frist round

i was looking up about that today actually. Is it dear? What time if the year did you spread it? Can you graze straight after it? Do you know how many units of P is in it?

KCTK

bob charles wrote: »

How much Yara product is coming into Ireland, never seen a bag down south but plenty "up the country". A greater selection of S incorporated products would be a bonus.

Loads of Yara here in N Kerry bob, small merchant has it, I'm spreading their 27%N plus Mg for last 2 weeks, very happy with results, a few around here have also spread their 16-16-16, varying stories on results of that

fiat10090dt

I tink 35p 3.5% cal 2.5 mag i will look at bag and post later ,I payed e400 a ton

moy83

fiat10090dt wrote: »

I used slag on all pasture found it improved grass grow i tink i will put 2bags acre on all farm next year at frist round

Can you buy it in small bags and where and how much please ?

jersey101

fiat10090dt wrote: »

I tink 35p 3.5% cal 2.5 mag i will look at bag and post later ,I payed e400 a ton

thats a good price only thing is im very high in mag here and i dont want it too high. Id love to get some im on index 1 and 2 P here. Do you know if it lifted the P much?

bob charles

jersey101 wrote: »

Just out of interest what is the highest compound manure you can get in ireland? A lad in the discussion group spread 0.15.10 in the spring and he had loads of grass when everyone else had none

there is really no such thing as the highest compound as each is blended from a few core porducts namely MOP (50k) and TSP(16%p). There are also others but I would think 90% of the compound fert is made from MOP/TSP/AN mix. so its a case on how you blend them whether you have high P compound likewise K. So the notion of a highest compound giving super results is a myth, its how many units of P and K were applied is what matters. Yara are a massive company so how into the Irish market they are hoping to get I dont know. Currently there is little or no importer fertiliser competition similar to the grain importers


Slag couldnt be cost effective imported into Ireland, great product and allot used around here in the 70s/80s but spread at high rates.

fiat10090dt

i just got in coop store in 50kgs bag .Just lookn at feilds there seem to grow more grass the ones didn get any

jersey101

bob charles wrote: »

there is really no such thing as the highest compound as each is blended for a few core porducts namely MOP (50k) and TSP(16%p). There are also others but I would think 90% of the compound fert is made from MOP/TSP/AN mix. so its a case on how you blend them whether you have high P compound likewise K. So the notion of a highest compound giving super results is a myth, its how many units of P and K were applied is what matters. Yara are a massive company so how into the Irish market they are hoping to get I dont know. Currently there is little or no importer competition similar to the grain importers


Slag couldnt be cost effective imported into Ireland, great product and allot used around here in the 70s/80s but spread at high rates.

ye im near short of going and getting pig slurry. Its going to cost alot to bring up P here

moy83

bob charles wrote: »

Slag couldnt be cost effective imported into Ireland, great product and allot used around here in the 70s/80s but spread at high rates.

The old lad said he used to put two boys in a trailer shoveling it out on rough ground in the 70s and it used to keep lovely stuff ahead of the cattle on bad ground .

bob charles

moy83 wrote: »

The old lad said he used to put two boys in a trailer shoveling it out on rough ground in the 70s and it used to keep lovely stuff ahead of the cattle on bad ground .

he was probably sticking out 100units of P per acre with shovels no wonder he has grass

tabby aspreme

I think there are two types of slag being discussed here , the stuff on DD is called super slag and its a mix of slag and lime , I think there is about 40 units of P per tonne , was quoted 55/ tonne delivered , it comes in bulk by ship to Waterford.

The slag that's being spread at 100kg / acre is Basic Slag in granular form, I think grassland fertiliser do it

jersey101

tabby aspreme wrote: »

I think there are two types of slag being discussed here , the stuff on DD is called super slag and its a mix of slag and lime , I think there is about 40 units of P per tonne , was quoted 55/ tonne delivered , it comes in bulk by ship to Waterford.

The slag that's being spread at 100kg / acre is Basic Slag in granular form, I think grassland fertiliser do it

im going to ring the lad on DD tomorrow any questions i should ask?

moy83

bob charles wrote: »

he was probably sticking out 100units of P per acre with shovels no wonder he has grass

There was no talk of units then I'd say it was more like horse cart measurements

tabby aspreme

jersey101 wrote: »

im going to ring the lad on DD tomorrow any questions i should ask?

If you google Super Slag you will get a lot of info from the company who sell it in UK. They make it sound so good you would eat a bit yourself

jersey101

tabby aspreme wrote: »

If you google Super Slag you will get a lot of info from the company who sell it in UK. They make it sound so good you would eat a bit yourself

ye i was looking at there page and teagasc did research on it in 99 and it seams good

moy83

tabby aspreme wrote: »

If you google Super Slag you will get a lot of info from the company who sell it in UK. They make it sound so good you would eat a bit yourself

Are they selling it in port talbot in wales do you know

moy83

I see gypsum stuff on dd aswell . Has anyone spread that ?

hammer73

KCTK wrote: »

Loads of Yara here in N Kerry bob, small merchant has it, I'm spreading their 27%N plus Mg for last 2 weeks, very happy with results, a few around here have also spread their 16-16-16, varying stories on results of that

Remember that 16-16-16 is UK analysis. ROI is 16-7-13

tabby aspreme

moy83 wrote: »

Are they selling it in port talbot in wales do you know

Yes I think its the same stuff.
One of the agents put an add up here on Boards and the Mods had it removed in minutes

hammer73

bob charles wrote: »

How much Yara product is coming into Ireland, never seen a bag down south but plenty "up the country". A greater selection of S incorporated products would be a bonus.

Plenty of grades with Sulphur available - all compounds, no blends

In ROI analysis
27%N+S
25%N+S+Na+Se
24%N+S

27-2.5-5+S (doesnt always have S - depends on factory it comes from)
27-2.2-4.2+S
27-1.7-3.3+S
27-2.5-0+S
26-0-5+S
25-0-10+S
22-1.7-11.6+S
13-2.5-19+S
8-10-20+S

moy83

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Yes I think its the same stuff.
One of the agents put an add up here on Boards and the Mods had it removed in minutes

The wife is from pretty much next door to that steelworks , the local farmers have it on their doorstep . I wonder what kind of cheap by products we have here in Ireland like that for fert

tabby aspreme

The old type of slag was a black powder like cement and came in 1cwt bags that were smaller than cement bags, I remember lads shovelling it out of a trailer onto a spreader, which was made from a back axle with the diff facing upwards and a plate attached too the shaft which spun around , this contraption was towed behind the trailer ,
Plenty of carbolic soap needed after a session on the trailer:D

tabby aspreme

moy83 wrote: »

The wife is from pretty much next door to that steelworks , the local farmers have it on their doorstep . I wonder what kind of cheap by products we have here in Ireland like that for fert

The only one I know of is Dublin slurry "sludge cake" . The sugar factory lime used to be good stuff back in the day, don't know what happens ash from the power stations , blood was another good one too

Sharpshooter82

tabby aspreme wrote: »

blood was another good one too

i remember blood being spread on the fields from the local slaughter place with tankers when i was young, cant be sure if it was legit tho

bob charles

Sharpshooter82 wrote: »

i remember blood being spread on the fields from the local slaughter place with tankers when i was young, cant be sure if it was legit tho

Most blood nowadays is going North and processed for Tomato and garden liquid ferts

Sharpshooter82

bob charles wrote: »

Most blood nowadays is going North and processed for Tomato and garden liquid ferts

didnt know that

stanflt

hammer73 wrote: »

Plenty of grades with Sulphur available - all compounds, no blends

In ROI analysis
27%N+S
25%N+S+Na+Se
24%N+S

27-2.5-5+S (doesnt always have S - depends on factory it comes from)
27-2.2-4.2+S
27-1.7-3.3+S
27-2.5-0+S
26-0-5+S
25-0-10+S
22-1.7-11.6+S
13-2.5-19+S
8-10-20+S

who supply greenfield fert

nashmach

hammer73 wrote: »

Plenty of grades with Sulphur available - all compounds, no blends

In ROI analysis
27%N+S
25%N+S+Na+Se
24%N+S

27-2.5-5+S (doesnt always have S - depends on factory it comes from)
27-2.2-4.2+S
27-1.7-3.3+S
27-2.5-0+S
26-0-5+S
25-0-10+S
22-1.7-11.6+S
13-2.5-19+S
8-10-20+S

Target also do 18-6-12 +5S, just to add some balance

hammer73

stanflt wrote: »

who supply greenfield fert

not too sure what you mean by this, is it who is Greenfields or which merchants supply their fertiliser?

Greenfields are a blending facility up north, much like Grasslands or Target only a smaller scale.

They have up to now sold mostly up north but have started to explore the ROI market in the last year or so. Not sure what merchants they sell through to be honest.

stanflt

hammer73 wrote: »

not too sure what you mean by this, is it who is Greenfields or which merchants supply their fertiliser?

Greenfields are a blending facility up north, much like Grasslands or Target only a smaller scale.

They have up to now sold mostly up north but have started to explore the ROI market in the last year or so. Not sure what merchants they sell through to be honest.

Got some of it in summer as no sulphar cut available- same blend but a whore of a poor quality granular