Burns vs Beltran + Undercard

Big Ears

Big test for Ricky Burns tonight against US based Mexican Raymundo Beltran.
Beltran is on a good run at the moment with recent victories over highly ranked Hank Lundy and dangerous South Korean Ji-Hoon Kim.
Meanwhile Burns after being impressive of late with wins vs Katsidis, Moses and Mitchell, was made to look very ordinary last time out vs Chelo Gonzalez, potentially losing the first 6 rounds of that fight before Gonzalez faded and eventually quit on his stool.

No one really knows how good Gonzalez is/was, and to an extent many aren't certain about how good Burns really is. Whether his recent wins were a mirage and he's not the genuine article, or merely last time out was a bad outing, and Gonzalez was much better than thought, either way we'll likely get our answer tonight.
Beltran is very dangerous, he can box from the outside or apply pressure and bang inside and it's the latter he's probably better at ad what his tactics will be tonight. He's extremely tough and will keep coming forward all night if allowed, a serious test of Burns ability.

Undercard has a few interesting fights, the one that stands out is Steve Simmons, 8-0 Scottish Cruiserweight prospect, taking on 10-0 German prospect David Graf. One of Matchroom's highly promoted prospects Scott Cardle takes on Gary Fox (11-1) who's very very tough and can bang a bit despite his record, although is very crude.
Also highly touted Liverpool prospect Callum Smith faces tough journeyman Kirill Psonko and a return for former British Featherweight champion Paul Appleby.

Should be a good nights action.
Prediction: Burns UD.

megadodge

Undercard has a few interesting fights, the one that stands out is Steve Simmons, 8-0 Scottish Cruiserweight prospect, taking on 10-0 German prospect David Graf.

This is turning into a very good fight.

That was no knockdown!

Davei141

megadodge wrote: »

This is turning into a very good fight.

That was no knockdown!

The commentators were so embarrassingly biased during that phantom knockdown and subsequent replays "We got the wrong replay" and "looking unsteady on his feet from the knockdown". Good fight though!

Halloween Jack

Hate the booing, seems much more prevalent in these islands. Support the hometown guy by all means, but respect the other bloke...

heyheyhey1982

Great respect to the national anthem

megadodge

Burns already looking much sharper than last time out.

megadodge

This is warming up very nicely. Beltran coming into it strongly.

RoryMac

Burns looking off the pace here, doesn't look confident at all

Halloween Jack

Kamikaze stuff from burns, tough nut though...

ebbsy

Looking dodgy. Has been the whole way through.

heyheyhey1982

Too brave.

Big Ears

Looks like Burns title is slipping away. Would need to win both rounds and score a knockdown to get a draw on my card

RoryMac

heyheyhey1982 wrote: »

Too brave.

Not seeing bravery in Burns performance tonight, goes into his shell everytime the pressure is on and should have a point deducted for holding. Like the Gonzalez fight he hasn't got started at all

heyheyhey1982

Big Ears wrote: »

Looks like Burns title is slipping away. Would need to win both rounds and score a knockdown to get a draw on my card

All over the place. Beltran is landing left hooks without thinking. Burns needs a ko

heyheyhey1982

Sky are making it up as they go along.

heyheyhey1982

RoryMac wrote: »

Not seeing bravery in Burns performance tonight, goes into his shell everytime the pressure is on and should have a point deducted for holding. Like the Gonzalez fight he hasn't got started at all

Yeah when I said brave I meant getting up of the canvas and keeping his hands low. He was ****e though

ebbsy

Burns certainly did not win that.

jamaamaj

Draw.?
Burns you very lucky man.

RoryMac

Shocking decision, the reaction of the home crowd tells it all

heyheyhey1982

WTF. One judge there might have a sight problem. Fair play to jim watt calling it for what it is. A dirty sport where money speaks.

SlickRic

this sport sickens me sometimes.

no way on this earth did Burns deserve anything from that fight.

I feel for Beltran. he should be world champion after that.

pathetic.

and everyone in that ring, as well as everyone in the crowd, knows it.

Davei141

What a farce

megadodge

I always put small cover bets on the draw at big odds, so I'm happy in that respect, but I thought Beltran won narrowly.

Richard Hillman

Despicable. It wasn't even the home judge that gave it. Very very very dodgy decision.

ebbsy

I d'ont think Burns even believed it himself, to be fair.

Big Ears

Ya very bad decision, Burns is a lucky man.
Burns won the 1st, the 2nd and 3rd could of gone either way, as could the 6th and the 7th and 12th were Burns rounds with everything else to Beltran.
So that's a maximum of 6 rounds to Burns and even then he wouldn't get the draw due to the knockdown.

I had it 115-112 Beltran btw, and I'm a big fan of Burns.

Halloween Jack

Burns can barely talk here...

SlickRic

115-112 for Burns is literally impossible for anyone who watched that fight.

heyheyhey1982

Complete bollox. Burns thinks he deserves it for a broken jaw. That's means nothing. Beltran won.

It wasn't close. These pundits are ****ing lyers.

ASOT

Absolute disgrace

SlickRic

that's a brilliant post-match interview by Beltran.

"I am the champion. That belt is mine."

Halloween Jack

Beltran seems like a top man. Any justice and he gets a rematch.

Hard to see where burns goes from here... He obviously can't go in with a live opponent...

RoryMac

heyheyhey1982 wrote: »

Complete bollox. Burns thinks he deserves it for a broken jaw. That's means nothing. Beltran won.

It wasn't close. These pundits are ****ing lyers.

Admirable to stay in there when he was badly hurt but you don't get points for that.

Sky pushing that as an excuse for the decision is pretty poor alright.

Even Stevie Wonder wouldn't have scored that fight 115-112 to Burns

sydneybound

****ing farce, that judge who gave 115-112 to Burns needs his ****ing head examined. Nights like this give boxing a terrible reputation.

Beltran, class interview, you deserve so much more.

heyheyhey1982

This sport is dirty. I hope Canelo seen this tonight and thinks about next week. To leave with the belt you need to knock the champion out.

barney4001

was a home town decision all right burns well hammered there

Handsome Bob

Brother just told me about this, he backed Beltran before the fight at 7/2. Having watched the fight he thought he was on a home and hosed winner, joke!

djhaxman

Having seen only bits and pieces of Burns career before his last 2 fights I'm wondering is he even that good.

Twice now he's been very fortunate to hold onto his title.

moneymad

I used to watch boxing every week and come in here and have a laugh. Now remember why i don't do that anymore. Boxing is a dirty business full of scoundrels. Beltran is a class act.

Halloween Jack

Pics of burns' jaw doing the rounds on twitter, clean break, astonishing that he finished the fight. He's got plenty of fight at least...

califano

Its no wonder why boxing is going to the dogs.

Johner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I2y9QnNm7g

Big Ears

Johner wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I2y9QnNm7g

It was a great interview. When watching the 12th round I was thinking, if they rob Beltran I've no sympathy for him, because you can't just give away a round like that late in the fight when you know you're gonna be up against it to win a decision.
Then after the interview I did feel quite sorry for him, but at the same time personal responsibility comes into it. Yes they shouldn't have robbed him, but how could he have avoided this, what could he have done more.
Sometimes a fighter goes into a fight knowing he needs to get the stoppage to win, all Beltran had to do was take the 12th. Of course he didn't know that, but he's been robbed before and he clearly understands how boxing works and should have known that there's no point taking chances on away soil.

So while the judges definitely ****ed up (not one of 44 press side scorers didn't have the fight for Beltran), from his own point of view he's still got himself to blame......he could of done more.