Is it worth much?

Gosub

Would there be any point in importing my VW Multivan to Ireland? Would it be worth anything there?

It's 2.5 tdi and auto. Year 2002, 160K kms. Left hand drive. It's on Spanish plates at the mo.

galwaytt

I'm open to correction, but if it's not registered here as a PSV (hackney/taxi), it would be on private car tax, which for a 2.5 is €1080 per annum.

That's make it pretty sale-proof.

If it's for your own use however, I think that 2.5 Tdi and auto combination is particularly good - I'd love one. It's be worth it instead of a big estate imho, although it'd use a bit more juice. Maybe.

As a camper it'd be perfect. And €105 tax.

bazz26

VRT maybe a killer on it. Might be worth something if it was re-exported again when your done with it as it may quality for a VRT rebate. Not sure on the terms and conditions around that though.

Gosub

galwaytt wrote: »

I'm open to correction, but if it's not registered here as a PSV (hackney/taxi), it would be on private car tax, which for a 2.5 is €1080 per annum.

That's make it pretty sale-proof.

If it's for your own use however, I think that 2.5 Tdi and auto combination is particularly good - I'd love one. It's be worth it instead of a big estate imho, although it'd use a bit more juice. Maybe.

As a camper it'd be perfect. And €105 tax.

Yeah it's a fantastic drive and is very well spec'd. Night heater, back makes into a bed, full leather (heated in front). Cruise etc.

It's great on diesel, but I don't have figures. I just know it goes a long way between fills.


Edit, I don't think it can be called a camper, no standing height. It's a fixed standard roof.

I can't even get an estimate for VRT as the Multivan doesn't show on the calculator. I'm sure it would be many thousand though. These things are €80K new.

Ronnie Beck

Probably worth about 4 grand as is. Converted to a camper it would be worth around 10k. There a nice van. Mine gets 38 - 41 mpg but it's a manual. Probably around 35mpg out of the auto.

edit: Try caravelle into the vrt calculator. Same van.

O.A.P

How long have you owned it ? I think if the van is in your name for six months or more while you are living abroad you don't need to pay any V.R.T.
Im not certain about this however.

Gosub

O.A.P wrote: »

How long have you owned it ? I think if the van is in your name for six months or more while you are living abroad you don't need to pay any V.R.T.
Im not certain about this however.

I've owned it for about 6 years, but I don't think I qualify for the exemption on VRT. I read on some official site somewhere that it doesn't apply to Irish nationals coming back to Ireland.

O.A.P

Gosub wrote: »

I've owned it for about 6 years, but I don't think I qualify for the exemption on VRT. I read on some official site somewhere that it doesn't apply to Irish nationals coming back to Ireland.

Oh never heard that before .
Its a very nice van by the way I'd hate to leave it after me.

ba_barabus

Gosub wrote: »

I've owned it for about 6 years, but I don't think I qualify for the exemption on VRT. I read on some official site somewhere that it doesn't apply to Irish nationals coming back to Ireland.

I'm certain it does as long as you haven't been studying abroad

Gosub

O.A.P wrote: »

Oh never heard that before .
Its a very nice van by the way I'd hate to leave it after me.

Thanks, yes she's a beauty, but if I get a sensible offer for her in the next 3 weeks she'll be gone.

ba_barabus wrote: »

I'm certain it does as long as you haven't been studying abroad

Maybe I should look again, but I'm pretty sure I was excluded for some obscure reason.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Gosub wrote: »

I've owned it for about 6 years, but I don't think I qualify for the exemption on VRT. I read on some official site somewhere that it doesn't apply to Irish nationals coming back to Ireland.

Yes it does, well at least it did as I took a car in years ago after working in uk for a few years. The only stipulations I remember were that I had to have owned it for 6 months prior to bringing it to Ireland and I couldn't sell it for at least 6 months afterwards (or maybe it was 12 months) I had it for 4 years before I sold it so it never mattered to me.

Gosub

CJC999 wrote: »

Yes it does, well at least it did as I took a car in years ago after working in uk for a few years. The only stipulations I remember were that I had to have owned it for 6 months prior to bringing it to Ireland and I couldn't sell it for at least 6 months afterwards (or maybe it was 12 months) I had it for 4 years before I sold it so it never mattered to me.

Just checked revenue.ie again and I found where I get tripped up. I imported the van from Germany 6 years ago. There is a regulation in the Spanish VRT (VRTo ) system that exempts poassenger vehicles over 1.8m from the duty. As it was exempt 6 years ago, it doesn't qualify for personal importation.

I suppose I won 6 years ago so I must lose now, ah well.

djimi

Why would a Spanish tax have any bearing on the Irish system?

Gosub

djimi wrote: »

Why would a Spanish tax have any bearing on the Irish system?

Dunno... but this is the wording on the revenue website: "it must have been acquired with all the appropriate local taxes paid and these must not have been exempted, or refunded in any way."

Marcusm

Gosub wrote: »

Dunno... but this is the wording on the revenue website: "it must have been acquired with all the appropriate local taxes paid and these must not have been exempted, or refunded in any way."

Simply because the local tax did not apply to vehicles over 1.8 is unlikely to be relevant - diplomatic and similar exemptions would more likely be in point.

Gosub

Marcusm wrote: »

Simply because the local tax did not apply to vehicles over 1.8 is unlikely to be relevant - diplomatic and similar exemptions would more likely be in point.

Yep, you could be right there.

It'll only come to the crunch if I can't sell it here, in Spain. I have a viewer tomorrow. Wish me luck.

Marcusm

Gosub wrote: »

Dunno... but this is the wording on the revenue website: "it must have been acquired with all the appropriate local taxes paid and these must not have been exempted, or refunded in any way."

As ever, that's a bastardisation of the actual law which states

(b) which has been acquired under the general conditions of taxation in force in the domestic market of a country and which is not the subject, on the grounds of exportation or departure from that country, of any exemption from or any refund of value-added tax, excise duty or any other consumption tax, and

Based on what you've said, I see no reason for the exemption not to apply but you'll need to confirm that Spanish "general conditions" applied and you were not a special case and that the export does not benefit from any refunds.

_Kaiser_

I'd think the "high" tax, 11 years old and LHD would probably put most potential buyers here off unless someone bought it for re-export to eastern europe or something.

galwaytt

Marcusm wrote: »

As ever, that's a bastardisation of the actual law which states

(b) which has been acquired under the general conditions of taxation in force in the domestic market of a country and which is not the subject, on the grounds of exportation or departure from that country, of any exemption from or any refund of value-added tax, excise duty or any other consumption tax, and

Based on what you've said, I see no reason for the exemption not to apply but you'll need to confirm that Spanish "general conditions" applied and you were not a special case and that the export does not benefit from any refunds.

Indeed. OP doesn't say if he bought it new in Germany or not. If taxes were paid in Germany then the Spanish thing is irrelevant. Once taxes paid somewhere in EU then that's all that matters. Actually as a 6 yr old van we're all over egging it a bit probably. ..

I'd be removing the pic, name and any values from this thread actually if you're thinking of bringing it here. .... if you catch my drift. ....Caravelle you say....?