The Great UK Porn Filter - could it happen here?

Foxhound38

It seems the UK is gearing up to actually introduce the porn ban (because someone has to THINK OF THE CHILDREN!), ensuring no computer literate male under the age of 60 ever votes Tory again. They're also filtering out VPN's too it seems, in case those pesky kids use it to get around the porn filter...

Given that our heroic politicians have for the longest time been... lets just say somewhat fond of following the example of our british cousins in most government initiatives, is it only a matter of time before the Great Firewall of Inda decends upon us, ruining the Pron fun for everyone? Would there be revolution in the streets if this was mooted?

cursai

I hope so. I'm destroying myself and need to be stoppped.

corktina

surely the problem is someone will have to decide what is Porn...

Someone will have to sit down and vet all the sites available...

this job is advertised...it's £25000 pa ...not a lot really, most people should be able to afford to pay that :-)

dodderangler

cursai wrote: »

I hope so. I'm destroying myself and need to be stoppped.

The ould palm blister at ya again??

Festy

I hope not. I don't want have to go back to the 10 minute freeviews on sky for my fix....

cursai

dodderangler wrote: »

The ould palm blister at ya again??

Yah. Think its the fairy liquid i'm using.

Foxhound38

In fairness, it's not really banning the porn per se... just forcing people to ring up their internet service provider to tell them to unblock the porn please...

I somehow doubt many people would be up for doing that...

smcgiff

Foxhound38 wrote: »

I somehow doubt many people would be up for doing that...

Hello Sky, I've a friend staying with me. He's just out of prison after 10 years - wrongly accused of course - anyway he was asking me if I could....

rockbeast

Once they don't ban Ascii Porn

Best text you'll ever have....

PS NO. It would be the start of a road that leads to all women being covered head to toe(in clothes).

There would only be two chat-up lines...

1) You've got nice eyes

OR

2) Durka Durka

Of course it starts off with porn because it's an easy sell. Oh you don't want kids watching porn, do you. You're not a deviant, are you. Next thing you know, plenty of other legitimate things are getting blocked
And none of it was their business or their fcuking job in the first place

dodderangler

Festy wrote: »

I hope not. I don't want have to go back to the 10 minute freeviews on sky for my fix....

Sure it only takes 5 mins

Festy

dodderangler wrote: »

Sure it only takes 5 mins

Not much variety though

hansfrei

Control is one step from ownership. Surprised there isn't an internet tax........lol

rockbeast

hansfrei wrote: »

Control is one step from ownership. Surprised there isn't an internet tax........lol

Porn tax:eek:

tommy2bad

hansfrei wrote: »

Control is one step from ownership. Surprised there isn't an internet tax........lol

Their is now!
Lets face it all that talk about how social media led to the Arab Spring scared the sh1t out of our governments too. The woke up to the internet and are now afraid of it. Step one to stopping the whole thing is remove the porn.

rockbeast

tommy2bad wrote: »

Their is now!
Lets face it all that talk about how social media led to the Arab Spring scared the sh1t out of our governments too. The woke up to the internet and are now afraid of it. Step one to stopping the whole thing is remove the porn.

Sure there's people being raped on facebook:eek::pac:

Foxhound38

tommy2bad wrote: »

Their is now!
Lets face it all that talk about how social media led to the Arab Spring scared the sh1t out of our governments too. The woke up to the internet and are now afraid of it. Step one to stopping the whole thing is remove the porn.

But they're not actually removing anything

hardCopy

They'll use ask.fm as an excuse to introduce filtering here. It's already started with pirate bay.

rockbeast

Foxhound38 wrote: »

But they're not actually removing anything

But they are

removing, or attempting to remove, my right to look at it

KyussBishop

We are heading well on our way down the slippery slope to a heavily censored and monitored Internet - that's why they are targeting VPN's: they are one of the few effective ways to avoid being monitored on the Internet.

Judge this by governments actions, not by what they claim:
The UK is almost certainly heavily invested in spying on both their own people, and the Irish too (our only international Internet fibers go to the UK and US, with minor detours into Canada), and when you put the Internet censorship in context beside that, it shows that this has nothing to do with porn at all, it is about opening up wider censorship of (and general control over) the Internet for corporate/political purposes.

It's naive to think this will not happen in Ireland, especially given the still-powerful religious lobby groups that would love to see content censored.

Just a couple of years ago, this kind of stuff was mostly unthinkable in western countries, and now it is slowly becoming the norm after enormous corporate lobbying in the US over things like SOPA, and the US exporting censorship through international trade treaties (with 'copyright' as the excuse).


Once this censorship is in place, it's going to be damn hard to get rid of, and it pretty much can end up ruining all of the good/important liberties that the Internet provides, restricting our ability to communicate freely, whilst simultaneously logging all our online actions, to enable targeting of almost any political opponents.

Foxhound38

rockbeast wrote: »

But they are

removing, or attempting to remove, my right to look at it

Their argument (and I'm not sure I agree with their argument) is that they are not removing your right to look at anything, as the power to turn off the filter is still in your hands provided you are over 18 and phone your ISP

Capt'n Midnight

So far they've blocked The Radio Times

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/15/site_blocking_after_court_orders_against_sites_illegally_serving_copyrighted_material/


and Hamlet

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/13/hamlet_blocked_by_british_library_for_being_too_violent/



and considering it's an opt in system all kids or adults would have to do is click the OK button to bypass it

rockbeast

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Their argument (and I'm not sure I agree with their argument) is that they are not removing your right to look at anything, as the power to turn off the filter is still in your hands provided you are over 18 and phone your ISP

In big dramatic voice:)

First they came for my porn...and I said nothing....etc

user2011

It may help those in the seats of power get work done.

Nearly 300,000 "attempts to access websites categorised as pornography" were made from computers within parliament in the past year, official records show.

The figure, which averages more than 800 per day, was released by IT chiefs at the Palace of Westminster in response to a freedom of information request.

It covers devices linked to the parliamentary network, including those used by MPs and peers, their staff and other employees.

Officials sought to play down the significance of the total, insisting it was inflated by pop-ups, auto-refresh and other web design features and did not reflect deliberate efforts to access sexual content.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/sep/03/parliamentary-network-pornography-websites-figures

Wonders if the papers here should follow suit with FOI?

Capt'n Midnight

http://www.memecenter.com/fun/128808/Im-fairly-sure-if-they-took-porn-off-the-internet-thered-only-be-one-website-left

rockbeast

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

http://www.memecenter.com/fun/128808/Im-fairly-sure-if-they-took-porn-off-the-internet-thered-only-be-one-website-left

nice

Jester252

To everybody wanting this filter in order to stop kids looking at porn
I ask
Why do you let your kids look at so much porn?

TheMilkyPirate

Officials sought to play down the significance of the total, insisting it was inflated by pop-ups

Yeah, sure.... And where do porn pop-ups pop-up most?

Days 298

rockbeast wrote: »

In big dramatic voice:)
First they came for my porn...and I said nothing....etc

First they came for porn and I didnt speak out for I am not porn

Days 298

Jester252 wrote: »

To everybody wanting this filter in order to stop kids looking at porn
I ask
Why do you let your kids look at so much porn?

Because its society fault I'm too lazy and computer illiterate to put a home filter on.....

Talib Fiasco

They'll block Facebook next for pages like Yoga Pants Farm.

Capt'n Midnight

Could it happen here ?

Most of our major ISP's are UK or Oz owned so technically it's just a matter of applying a pre-existing template. But no doubt they'll try to get some sort of grant or tax write off for it.

smcgiff

rockbeast wrote: »

Porn tax:eek:

I think this would sort out our economy within a year and make serious inroads into bringing down our national debt. Imagine - 12 months from now...

Husband. 'Hi honey, I'm home. Something smells good!'

Wife: 'Well, it is steak and BJ night. Oh, and there's a letter from Revenue on the kitchen table. We're late with our porn tax return.'

Husband. 'Mmm - that much, eh. We might need to budget and have cornbeef and BJ night for the next couple of months. Do you think we'll need to pay for your father's hospice care much longer?'

Wife. 'Well, I was thinking we could holiday at home in future.'

Husband. 'And I was thinking it was time to expand the business, maybe take on someone to help me to finally start exporting.'