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baileborough, shootings and the place locked down

  • 05-09-2013 9:54pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭


    hope everyone is ok. my dad was told to get out of the town by the police.

    tragic loss of life.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭KwackerJack


    As in a big shoot out with Gardai and crims??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭emo72


    As in a big shoot out with Gardai and crims??

    man shoots his wife and locked in the square bar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭KwackerJack


    Jasus....was there not an ex-Garda shot there also?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭Goat the dote


    emo72 wrote: »
    man shoots his wife and locked in the square bar


    Is she alive? Sounds dramatic alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭emo72


    Jasus....was there not an ex-Garda shot there also?

    was he not shot in his house?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,057 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    His wife is dead, He has locked himself in the cellar of the Square Bar. Not known if he has hostages but he is armed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭KwackerJack


    emo72 wrote: »
    was he not shot in his house?

    Im confused.....has baileborough turned into a war zone??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭muincav


    Its typical though-the only news we can get about this is on here or facebook or twitter, but nothing on News site like RTE --If its not Dublin its not news....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭emo72


    His wife is dead, He has locked himself in the cellar of the Square Bar. Not known if he has hostages but he is armed.


    yeah, thats what i heard from my da. he was there. hope he comes out okay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭Slick50


    emo72 wrote: »
    man shoots his wife and locked in the square bar
    Did he get locked in the bar before or after he shot the missus?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭emo72


    muincav wrote: »
    Its typical though-the only news we can get about this is on here or facebook or twitter, but nothing on News site like RTE --If its not Dublin its not news....

    social media. its instant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,057 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Houses all around are being evacuated as its thought he has explosives.
    Sounds mad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭muincav


    Dont worry RTE will send someone after the weekend--is that Giles pub?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭emo72


    Houses all around are being evacuated as its thought he has explosives.
    Sounds mad.

    jesus christ.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,547 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    muincav wrote: »
    Its typical though-the only news we can get about this is on here or facebook or twitter, but nothing on News site like RTE --If its not Dublin its not news....

    Unfortunate that RTÉ can't have their HQ in every county.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭emo72


    muincav wrote: »
    Dont worry RTE will send someone after the weekend--is that Giles pub?

    no its the square bar. nixys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭muincav


    Houses all around are being evacuated as its thought he has explosives.
    Sounds mad.

    Was there last week and my cousin was joking we would wanna watch ourselves in this mad town...guess he is right....from the rumours I think I know the guy too..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭KwackerJack


    So apparently a man has shot his wife and is now held up in a bar with explosives?

    Crazy!!

    Wonder will it go the talking or sniping route!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭muincav


    Unfortunate that RTÉ can't have their HQ in every county.

    No only Dublin and fcuk the rest...like everything else Dublin gets it...but thats not the issue here-RTE SHOULD be covering it, after all its not that far down the road...;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,057 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    muincav wrote: »
    Was there last week and my cousin was joking we would wanna watch ourselves in this mad town...guess he is right....from the rumours I think I know the guy too..

    I have a friend living there. He is keeping me informed of developments. He knows the man too. All homes and pubs in the area have been evacuated. Might have been shots fired and man could be wounded. He was told but couldn't confirm as he had to leave the area.But the whole thing could be exaggerated too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭emo72


    ollie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Aka Ishur


    Well if its only happened in the last twenty minutes im not surprised its not on rte, unless they have someone watching the gardai radio the whole time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭muincav


    K:eek:-say no more
    emo72 wrote: »
    ollie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,057 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Aka Ishur wrote: »
    Well if its only happened in the last twenty minutes im not surprised its not on rte, unless they have someone watching the gardai radio the whole time.

    Been going on since 6.30pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Aka Ishur


    Just checked and gardai have asked for media blackout, until its over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭muincav


    Aka Ishur wrote: »
    Well if its only happened in the last twenty minutes im not surprised its not on rte, unless they have someone watching the gardai radio the whole time.

    over 2 hours


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭muincav


    ok Im away off to watch yesterdays news on RTE...lol...night all-hopefully there will be NO MORE innocent lives lost....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    muincav wrote: »
    No only Dublin and fcuk the rest..

    Tragic situation, probable loss of life, a small peaceful town in turmoil... All you can do is bitch about the media response? I'm sure lots of newsteams are aware of what's going on, but unlike kneejerkskynewssuperduper reports with a powerful legal team behind them, they may wait and

    See what the story is...
    Contact the Gardai, see what sensitivities need to be dealt with.
    Check out if there are there kids involved.
    Liaise with authorities and ensure their reporting won't compromise a dangerous situation.
    See if the family have been contacted etc etc...

    They do the exact same in Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Slane, Kerry etc.... Get over yourself and think about the people involved and their families.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭muincav


    apparently theirs a media blackout in relation to this incident

    you can have a "media blackout" but you cant have a "social media blackout"...night all


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Gee Bag


    Probably not being reported on RTE because of what happened at the siege in Abbeylara in 2000.

    That time a lad locked himself in the house after shooting at the guards. Shannonside Radio and RTE detailed his entire mental health history on air as the siege was in progress and it didn't help matters one bit.

    From wikipedia-
    In addition to the above findings the Barr Tribunal was particularly critical of the Irish media. This is worthy of note, despite the fact that the media organisations concerned did not accentuate this aspect of the report. Judge Barr found the RTÉ's Five Seven Live radio show was particularly irresponsible in naming John Carthy and Barr adjudged that "the facts and circumstances surrounding the fatal shooting of John Carthy as specified in the Tribunal’s Terms of Reference include matters which add[ed] to or could have potential for aggravating the deceased’s apparently serious mental distress which became progressively more severe as the episode at Abbeylara continued (vide the evidence of Dr. John Sheehan and other psychiatrists given at the Tribunal), and in consequence the potential for undermining the possibility of successful dialogue between the Garda negotiator and John Carthy which might have avoided the circumstances that gave rise to his death.


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    are you listening to the garda scanner? not seeing anything online about this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,803 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel


    Sounds a bit like Southcliffe.


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hope its not as bad as we are hearing .

    has your Dad gotten away from area Emo?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭muincav


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Tragic situation, probable loss of life, a small peaceful town in turmoil... All you can do is bitch about the media response? I'm sure lots of newsteams are aware of what's going on, but unlike kneejerkskynewssuperduper reports with a powerful legal team behind them, they may wait and

    See what the story is...
    Contact the Gardai, see what sensitivities need to be dealt with.
    Check out if there are there kids involved.
    Liaise with authorities and ensure their reporting won't compromise a dangerous situation.
    See if the family have been contacted etc etc...

    They do the exact same in Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Slane, Kerry etc.... Get over yourself and think about the people involved and their families.
    WTF? when have you ever heard of reporters not reporting you idiot-its there job not a hobby...go away to the Dublin forum...,,,,this is not the USA!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭SheldonC17


    Its over and hes been arrested (apparently)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭emo72


    Jake1 wrote: »
    Hope its not as bad as we are hearing .

    has your Dad gotten away from area Emo?

    yeah he made it home. at first i thought he was making up an excuse for not going home. i was saying to him "just tell me ma you went to the pub!"


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    emo72 wrote: »
    yeah he made it home. at first i thought he was making up an excuse for not going home. i was saying to him "just tell me ma you went to the pub!"

    haha, glad he made it home.,,be funny if your ma probably didnt believe him anyway :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    muincav wrote: »
    WTF? when have you ever heard of reporters not reporting you idiot-its there job not a hobby...go away to the Dublin forum...,,,,this is not the USA!!

    I'm not an idiot, I often post in the Dublin and other forums in a helpful way. It's reporters jobs to report in a sensitive way, to get the facts properly and not to release information that will compromise a building tragic situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,057 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    No further loss of life. Thank God.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    muincav wrote: »
    WTF? when have you ever heard of reporters not reporting you idiot-its there job not a hobby...go away to the Dublin forum...,,,,this is not the USA!!

    It's a regular occurrence actually. Irish news reporters will regularly hold back on reporting on sensitive situations until the time is right.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,057 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    My friend is now saying that it's still going on and that there was false information put out saying it was over.
    The plot thickens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭emo72


    any update?


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Alright guys please keep this civil. There is no need for arguments on this issue.

    This is a very sensitive situation and possibly still ongoing so no names, and try to keep with the facts. If anything is posted outside of the rules please report it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    It's a regular occurrence actually. Irish news reporters will regularly hold back on reporting on sensitive situations until the time is right.

    You're bang on.

    But, I guess what muincav craves will be what most people will want eventually. 'Expose' type of reporting will be the norm. Close knit community respect will be a thing of the past and crimes of passion, crimes due to mental illness etc.. will be demanded to be reported here and now regardless of who or what families will suffer.

    It's a shame, but, as muincac says, you can't have a social media blackout. There's always a few that will have to lay out the bare (minimum) facts to garner "thanks" or internet respect amongst their peers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭emo72


    is it over?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 Gman0174


    Won't be going there again! Mad bastids...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,446 ✭✭✭Corvo Attano


    Yes its over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭roast


    Still ongoing, according to FB. Mental.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭discobeaker


    Anglo Celt is saying its a double tragedy but you cant open the link or even the website


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    Aye, posted a few minutes ago on the Celt's FB page:

    https://www.facebook.com/anglocelt
    Gardaí have said the incident in Bailieborough is ongoing, we do not anticipate any more updates tonight. We will report official gardaí statements when they are ready to make them in the morning.


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