Do you feel the Emotion of songs

Specialun

I had this chat few weeks ago with a mate of mine who is a mscan

He reckons chart music have taken over so much that people no longer feel the Emotion of songs

I recently bought Ed Sheeran lbum,which he wrote himself about his own life experiences and a few songs where i really listened to the words kinda hit home

So AH s there sons where you really feel relate or where you feel the Emotion or do you just lsten to the msc to pass time

Wacker The Attacker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zbi0XmGtMw

Which emotion does this ilicit?

krudler

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

Which emotion does this ilicit?

Pure unadulterated rage.

Anyone

SEPT 23 1989

Not since the death of music in 1996

DipStick McSwindler

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pundy

ed sheeran is a pop star, so "chart music" or not, i thought that was the whole point of music...???

Crooked Jack

Im baffled by these Xfactor wankers who go on and sing Generic Pop Hit #2475 like it's just the most touching, important, insightful song that has ever been written.

Specialun

pundy wrote: »

ed sheeran is a pop star, so "chart music" or not, i thought that was the whole point of music...???

Not so much..his more of a singer-songwriter

lahalane

I will very rarely pay attention to the lyrics or try to decipher them. I like music for the melody more so than the message.

pundy

Specialun wrote: »

Not so much..his more of a singer-songwriter

he gets number 1's in the pop charts and duets with people like Taylor Swift though...?

yeah he writes his own songs, i get that, great and all, but he's still "chart music".

12 year old girls would "feel the emotion" of a rihanna song for example.

vitani

My heart always swells with emotion at the key change in a Westlife song.

BeerWolf

I'm a passive listener, i.e. - I wouldn't be able to recall the lycis..., I just listen to the tune.

Sugarlumps

Anything by Jarvis Cocker.

Bipolar Joe

I mostly listen to music without vocals, so the music almost always carries some sort of emotion.

This is a good example, I think. Starts off kind of happy and bouncy, almost childlike. Then it gets more dissonant and uneasy. Makes my brain travel with the sound.

Specialun

pundy wrote: »

he gets number 1's in the pop charts and duets with people like Taylor Swift though...?

yeah he writes his own songs, i get that, great and all, but he's still "chart music".

12 year old girls would "feel the emotion" of a rihanna song for example.

He plays and writes his own stuff.just because swift is one doesnt mean he is..thats just my opinion

Never thought i would be argueing on whether ed sheeran is pop star or not..

nelly17

I would tend to agree with the comment made by the OPs mate, that said every now and then something like this comes along....

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Specialun wrote: »

Not so much..his more of a singer-songwriter

Nah, not really, I'd have him down more as a songwriter-singer.

seenitall

Good songs, yes.

Like John Wyatt's I Ain't Missing You.

You know what's genius, though? Something like Erasure's Don't Leave Me This Way, where you get dumped in the morning and immediately work out some of the pain on the dancefloor in the evening.

ballsymchugh

nelly17 wrote: »

I would tend to agree with the comment made by the OPs mate, that said every now and then something like this comes along....

the exception that proves the rule!!!

LOTD

What's chart music, it's just what sold the most that week it's not an indicator of being "authentic" or the emotion in a song. Great bands get into the charts, also artists I don't like chart, that's music in a nutshell though. People will always have this argument though. Go check out really popular bands like The National and Bon Iver on Youtube and the comments from people would be that they are so underrated yet they have good record sales, good press and sellout big venues worldwide.

pundy

Specialun wrote: »

He plays and writes his own stuff.just because swift is one doesnt mean he is..thats just my opinion

Never thought i would be argueing on whether ed sheeran is pop star or not..

Lady Gaga writes her own songs... so is she a "singer songwriter"???

but he is a pop star. Nirvana were pop stars. they may not be typically the "pop" sound, but they are pop culture stars, making them pop stars.

this is the way it is now. there's no such thing as "alternative" music anymore - not really. any and every musician, no matter what style of music, has the chance to become no.1 these days whether they are making electronic stuff, or whipping out a guitar and whining about lost love.

also, his stuff is pretty soft music - like, any of todays "man bands" (like take-that) or whoever would sound pretty similar in my book.

Grunge needs a revival. this is like the late 80's all over again.

Muahahaha

vitani wrote: »

My heart always swells with emotion at the key change in a Westlife song.

And the bit where they stand up off their stools, pure class

ScumLord

A good traditional choir singing live in a church can give me goosebumps. Same can happen with one person singing live in a much more intimate setting. When a song is telling a story or trying to push a message and uses the right music to express the story it's much more effective.

Modern pop has no soul, you know they don't mean anything their singing. It's just a bunch of kids doing what their told.

gline

ScumLord wrote: »

Modern pop has no soul, you know they don't mean anything their singing. It's just a bunch of kids doing what their told.

I'd say this is true for a majority of "popular" music and not only modern pop. It all comes down to money at the end of the day. it is called the music "industry", it is there to make money and NOTHING else. You would probably have to go back a long way, before it became an industry, to see real "emotion" in a lot of music being produced at the time.
Nowadays it comers down to the individual creator of a piece of music and their reasons for creating it, but you'd be hard pushed to find an artist these days that doesnt want monetary gain/fame from his/her creations.

In saying that I like listening to a lot of psybient or similar music with no lyrics, using just music to create soundscapes and emotions, but at the end of the day the artists are still making money out of it and creating pieces of art for the sole reason of creating wealth or as an alternative job.

McChubbin

Muahahaha wrote: »

And the bit where they stand up off their stools, pure class

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ouOVgKL3hA

:pac:

LOTD

I see nothing wrong with ambition, if the music is good I don't care about the artist's so called ulterior motives. Great musicians know who to create great songs and what's wrong with wanting to earn money from a job. I see a lot of posters questioning todays pop music there is a ton of great artist, two albums I'm looking forward to this week are the Weeknd and Janelle Monae for example. There is good music, whether you like it or not is another question.

gline

LOTD wrote: »

I see nothing wrong with ambition, if the music is good I don't care about the artist's so called ulterior motives. Great musicians know who to create great songs and what's wrong with wanting to earn money from a job. I see a lot of posters questioning todays pop music there is a ton of great artist, two albums I'm looking forward to this week are the Weeknd and Janelle Monae for example. There is good music, whether you like it or not is another question.

This is true and at the end of the day, its up to the listener whether they enjoy the music or not. However being an artist and seeing it as a job as opposed to someone that enjoys art and does it for this reason alone are 2 very different views and will create very different types of art. There will be less of the artists "soul" or emotion in the job orientated artist, especially if you are talking about some of the churned out pop that isnt even written by the performing artists. But if someone is happy to listen to it and enjoy it, then fair play to them.

The Backwards Man

There's been no emotion since the Renaissance. Baroque has no soul.:mad::mad::mad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsSVcRYh8dE

krudler

lahalane wrote: »

I will very rarely pay attention to the lyrics or try to decipher them. I like music for the melody more so than the message.

I prefer instrumental music myself, a lot, a LOT of song lyrics are absolute rubbish.

melted_face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNXYvidMaTM

won't be everyones cup of tea but there's certainly a hell of a lot of emotion in this song

Ficheall

What's an mscan?

Ghost Buster

A new Windows based soft drink

christ on a bike!

Green and red of Mayo. Just lay back and enjoy the beauty.

That and the sea by morcheeba

shopaholic01

seenitall wrote: »

Good songs, yes.

Like John Wyatt's I Ain't Missing You.

You know what's genius, though? Something like Erasure's Don't Leave Me This Way, where you get dumped in the morning and immediately work out some of the pain on the dancefloor in the evening.

Was that not The Communards?

GalwayGuy2

I disagree with your friend.

Even if someone is listening to the most generic pop music possible, then they would steel feel emotion. Even it's just the euphoria created by the dance lyrics, or the memory of being drunk, kissing your first woman, or vomiting in the toilets.

I'd be very, very surprised if someone didn't get emotion off a song. Whether it's emotion they have put on it or emotions the artists tried to convey is another story.

seenitall

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Was that not The Communards?

Absolutely. Soz about the brain melt; mixed up Jimmy Sommerville with Andy Bell, haven't heard any of either in a while.