Irish Citizenship

trytilidie

i don't want to waste your time :

- came to ireland in 2002 with my family i was 9 haven't left since
-i am now 20 and i applied for citizenship late last year with my entire family
-I am the oldest of my siblings , as of 2 months ago my entire family (both parents and my brother and sisters) have received their citizenship .
-I haven't received mine yet, I'm going in to second year in college and i am not eligible for free fees
-I have no trouble with the law , worked part time since i was 16 ,pay taxes.
- I am quite restricted because until i receive irish citizenship I am not eligible for free fees and i cant afford to pay 3000+ for the year so it looks like i will either have to dropout or take a leave of absence for the year and wait till it arrives .
-this in turn screws up my plans as I was offered a placement in new york after my completion of 2nd year of my business law course ...If i don't complete 2nd year this year i highly doubt I will receive this offer again. And this is is a placement that could set me up for life .

My life is pretty much on hold till I receive citizenship in ireland.


..Im just curious as to why its taking just my application so long and is there anything I could do to speed the process up. Thank you.

I received that letter in February thanks .

schemingbohemia

Sorry I don't know the answer to your question, but i would seriously advise taking out the name of the person that wrote the letter as I'm sure they didn't write too many letters that date and would be able to identify you easily enough.

Contact your local TD and see if they can ask on your behalf why the rest of the family have been granted citizenship and you haven't and also to explain your fees situation.

Best of luck.

trytilidie

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Sorry I don't know the answer to your question, but i would seriously advise taking out the name of the person that wrote the letter as I'm sure they didn't write too many letters that date and would be able to identify you easily enough.

Contact your local TD and see if they can ask on your behalf why the rest of the family have been granted citizenship and you haven't and also to explain your fees situation.

Best of luck.

thanks just I will get on it . Really appreciate the reply

Santa Cruz

The citizenship application usually takes a lot longer for a group than an individual. There must be some reason why your application is delayed while the rest of your family has been granted citizenship. Is there something that you are not telling us?
While I see your difficulty your main attraction for getting citizenship is so that you can benefit from free college fees. I think that is fairly mercenary and maybe you don't deserve to become an Irish citizen.

Pro Hoc Vice

Santa Cruz wrote: »

The citizenship application takes a lot longer for a group than an individual. While I see your difficulty your main attraction for getting citizenship is so that you can benefit from free college fees and off you go to New York. I think that is fairly mercenary and maybe you don't deserve to become an Irish citizen.

Bit harsh the guy wants to go to New York as his placement in third year. In certain courses in University employers put a lot of store on where you did your placement.

clappyhappy

Santa Cruz wrote: »

The citizenship application usually takes a lot longer for a group than an individual. There must be some reason why your application is delayed while the rest of your family has been granted citizenship. Is there something that you are not telling us?
While I see your difficulty your main attraction for getting citizenship is so that you can benefit from free college fees. I think that is fairly mercenary and maybe you don't deserve to become an Irish citizen.

That is a bit uncalled for!!

Cody Pomeray

Op what visa or permission were you on previously?

citizenship and free fees do not go hand in hand.

fees depends on residence, and you might satisfy the criteria without citizenship.

I know an Irish colleague on a postgraduate course who was ineligible for a grant because he had been living and studying in the US. Citizenship is rarely (or, never) the issue.

Pro Hoc Vice

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

Op what visa or permission were you on previously?

citizenship and free fees do not go hand in hand.

fees depends on residence, and you might satisfy the criteria without citizenship.

I know an Irish colleague on a postgraduate course who was ineligible for a grant because he had been living and studying in the US. Citizenship is rarely (or, never) the issue.

The OP stated his parents and two siblings applied at the same time as him and got naturlisation. The OP also had a letter up saying he passed the first stage meaning he had the required time for naturlisation. The department has announced that any person getting naturlisation during a course will get free fees for the remainder of the course. I would be surprised if the OP based on his family's facts and his own letter does not qualify the residence requirement.

trytilidie

Santa Cruz wrote: »

The citizenship application usually takes a lot longer for a group than an individual. There must be some reason why your application is delayed while the rest of your family has been granted citizenship. Is there something that you are not telling us?
While I see your difficulty your main attraction for getting citizenship is so that you can benefit from free college fees. I think that is fairly mercenary and maybe you don't deserve to become an Irish citizen.

And the fact that I work and pay taxes here and spend it here is what ? Correct me if i am wrong but is it not tax payer money used for other irish students that are entitled to free fees ,or the ones that get grants I don't receive and that is fair how? or would you rather like other foreign nationals pumping the money here and sending it back to their relative countries ... What I don't deserve to reap a dime from what I've payed taxes for in the past. While I understand that without me working ,it wouldn't affect the government in anyway , consider the other irish people who sit at home and don't work and collect social welfare payments .

And no there is nothing , i have never been arrested or anything at all. My younger sister has and she received it .Also no need to be such a D1ck!

And who is to say if i do get the citizenship and i go on the internship ,i finish my degree and study to get a phd in economics and I come back to Ireland and become an even more productive member of society than I already am . All possible because I was eligible for free fees.

Cushie Butterfield

trytilidie wrote: »

thanks just I will get on it . Really appreciate the reply

Yes, that should be your first step. It could possibly be a simple administration error & your citizenship processing was overlooked, or that for some reason further details were required for you & this was never communicated to you. Once you have established the reason for the delay you'll be in a better position as regards what to do next.

If it's the case that you are told by INIS that your application will be processed you might be able to obtain written confirmation of this from them, which might be sufficient evidence for the fees office for the time being. You could also seek advice from your student's union office. They might be in a position to speak to the fees office on your behalf.

Santa Cruz

clappyhappy wrote: »

That is a bit uncalled for!!

No it is not. A bit of plain speaking won't do him any harm

Santa Cruz

trytilidie wrote: »

And the fact that I work and pay taxes here and spend it here is what ? Correct me if i am wrong but is it not tax payer money used for other irish students that are entitled to free fees ,or the ones that get grants I don't receive and that is fair how? or would you rather like other foreign nationals pumping the money here and sending it back to their relative countries ... What I don't deserve to reap a dime from what I've payed taxes for in the past. While I understand that without me working ,it wouldn't affect the government in anyway , consider the other irish people who sit at home and don't work and collect social welfare payments .

And no there is nothing , i have never been arrested or anything at all. My younger sister has and she received it .Also no need to be such a D1ck!

And who is to say if i do get the citizenship and i go on the internship ,i finish my degree and study to get a phd in economics and I come back to Ireland and become an even more productive member of society than I already am . All possible because I was eligible for free fees.

You have applied for Irish citizenship. Your main if not only incentive to do so seems to be that you can avail of free fees. If you have any respect for the country for which you wish to become a citizen you will accept the law as it is applied. If you eventually get citizenship so be it but in the meantime accept the system of granting citizenship as it stands. There is no one forcing you to become an Irish citizen

Pro Hoc Vice

Santa Cruz wrote: »

You have applied for Irish citizenship. Your main if not only incentive to do so seems to be that you can avail of free fees. If you have any respect for the country for which you wish to become a citizen you will accept the law as it is applied. If you eventually get citizenship so be it but in the meantime accept the system of granting citizenship as it stands. There is no one forcing you to become an Irish citizen

Did you even read the OP. The OP said he and his whole family applied. He said his parents and 2 siblings have got their naturlisation 2 months ago. He said is this normal and the delay for him is causing him a personal difficulty. It is obvious from the post that if none of his family got it he would not have any issue. What kind of people just want to see issues in every post. The guy has a genuine question, which he is entitled to ask.

As an aside he and his family have lived here over 10 years his parent or parents have been working and paying tax for I assume all that time. The OP has been working at working part time for 3 years. He would like to have the issue sorted as it would make like easier and good luck to him.

trytilidie

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Sorry I don't know the answer to your question, but i would seriously advise taking out the name of the person that wrote the letter as I'm sure they didn't write too many letters that date and would be able to identify you easily enough.

Contact your local TD and see if they can ask on your behalf why the rest of the family have been granted citizenship and you haven't and also to explain your fees situation.

Best of luck.

Quick update...I owe you everything ..I went to my TD and she made one phone call ..and the following week I was approved and received my citizenship in october. Approved for free fees , got my grant, and I got offered an internship for the summer of 2014 in a nice firm in London City, but still targeting the states.
. I really appreciate that advice . Thank you ever so much!!!!

happymamma2

Can anybody tell me how long does it take to get the citizenship? My husband applied last September, got the letter that everything was ok and...that's it...have not heard anything since..

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happymamma2 wrote: »

Can anybody tell me how long does it take to get the citizenship? My husband applied last September, got the letter that everything was ok and...that's it...have not heard anything since..

In most cases within 6 months.