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Banning Sex Education

  • 04-09-2013 8:27am
    #1
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/03/israel-school-textbook-sex-education

    So it seems the supposedly "progressive" middle-Eastern state of Israel has ordered school book publishers to remove material relating to human reproduction and contraception.

    This isn't even in special private schools (which I'd still have some problem with), it's in State-run schools with a religious ethos, not too unlike many schools in Ireland. Is this a infringement of a child's right to education or is it acceptable action in including only "texts and reading materials in the spirit of the state religious education system"?

    I think it's one of the most ridiculous measures I've heard in a while, and a complete affront to the children's right to a proper education. Screw this "religious modesty" crap.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭conorhal


    The ultra orthodox crowd are a weird bunch. Generally Jews are pretty open and liberal about sex, the Torrah is insistant that in jewish law a husband is obliged to sexually satisfy his wife when ever she asks...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Maybe their youths aren't having enough unwanted pregnancies, so as to over populate their lands, leading to their eventual expansion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Cabbage Patch kids are making a return?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭folan


    not teaching kids about sex is well proven* to reduce all the negitives about sex, including but not limited to nudity



    *not proven.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Won't spend the money on the books /equipment?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    How are they going to explain to the kids all the 'begetting' that goes on in the Torah?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭EuskalHerria


    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/03/israel-school-textbook-sex-education

    I think it's one of the most ridiculous measures I've heard in a while.

    Israel has just made a deal with Uganda to deport thousands of African asylum seekers, or infiltrators as they're officially referred, back to Uganda, so Uganda can purchase discount weapons from the Israelis.

    So it's not even the worst thing they've done this week. The poor children don't even get the opportunity to snigger at the word vagina in class. That's surviving not living!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭martinedwards


    well....

    indirectly.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Did they get a donation of these text books from Texas or something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Israel has just made a deal with Uganda to deport thousands of African immigrants, or infiltrators as they're officially referred, back to Uganda, so Uganda can purchase discount weapons from the Israelis.

    So it's not even the worst thing they've done this week. The poor children don't even get the opportunity to snigger at the word vagina in class. That's surviving not living!

    Illegal immigrants?:confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    OMG, just like when I grew up in Ballygobackwards!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭EuskalHerria


    Illegal immigrants?:confused:

    Apologies I shouldn't have used the word immigrants. The majority are seeking asylum from Eritrea, a country with well documented human rights abuses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    How are they going to explain to the kids all the 'begetting' that goes on in the Torah?

    the only begetting I be getting is a sore wrist. :-(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    Maybe their youths aren't having enough unwanted pregnancies, so as to over populate their lands, leading to their eventual expansion.

    That's actually quite a big worry amongst the mainstream Jews. The orthodox Jews and Arabs in Israel are gaining dramatically in percentage of total population terms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Can we, for a moment, forget that it's Israel and concentrate on the topic of a country banning sex education? Ugandan immigrants and building settlements shouldn't enter into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The move should be seen in the context of the growing influence of rightwing rabbis in Israel. "Modesty considerations are being used as a political tool to keep women 'in their place'," she said.
    Back to basics it seems

    Gevald! http://youtu.be/Cc8XwamA1t0?t=32s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    Fuck Israel (in general, but also on this specific issue,) we need better sex education here. We should be teaching kids not just the mechanics and the biology, but technique. I remember the first time I licked a beure out I hadnt a clue what I was at. And the first blow job I got left my lad feelin like I slammed it in a car door. A+ to the girl for effort but she had no idea what she was at an either no knowledge of/or respect for the banjo string.
    This shit needs to be taught in school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    Fuck Israel (in general, but also on this specific issue,) we need better sex education here. We should be teaching kids not just the mechanics and the biology, but technique. I remember the first time I licked a beure out I hadnt a clue what I was at. And the first blow job I got left my lad feelin like I slammed it in a car door. A+ to the girl for effort but she had no idea what she was at an either no knowledge of/or respect for the banjo string.
    This shit needs to be taught in school.

    Sounds like you need home schooling!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    frag420 wrote: »
    Sounds like you need home schooling!

    Aye, in your ma's home :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    The Ultra Orthodox, certainly seem to have lot of power, out of proportion to there numbers, but if I remember correctly, they do hold the balance of power, so you will see governments pander to some of there issues.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    I expect sales of playboy to sky rocket


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Sex and religion. A heady brew.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    humanji wrote: »
    Can we, for a moment, forget that it's Israel and concentrate on the topic of a country banning sex education? Ugandan immigrants and building settlements shouldn't enter into it.

    Won't somebody please think of the children?!


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