jon venables out again?

emo72

The kid that murdered Jamie Bulger is out again? Got an alert from BBC but can't find a link. This guy can't survive outside prison. Too many people looking to identify him.

BNMC

People should leave him be. He did the crime and has served his time.

scudzilla

BNMC wrote: »

People should leave him be. He did the crime and has served his time.

Bollox, he did the crime, served the time, got released, got caught again (with kiddie porn), served the time again, now he's out.

Leave him be me hole

arybvtcw0eolkf

BNMC wrote: »

People should leave him be. He did the crime and has served his time.

LOL... No.

emo72

I think I would tend to leave him alone. But something tells me he will do something to get himself sent back in. This guy seems to have a compulsion to mess his life up. He doesn't need outside help to **** things up.

RayM

Hanna Unsightly History wrote: »

LOL... No.

You think people shouldn't "leave him be"? What should they do instead?

Dr Turk Turkelton

BNMC wrote: »

People should leave him be. He did the crime and has served his time.

Worst hider ever Jon!

Tombi!

RayM wrote: »

You think people shouldn't "leave him be"? What should they do instead?

Ideally leave him in prison. He did something horrible, went to jail and then gets out and then decides to do something again that society would condemn.

Personally I think he's either a f**king idiot or else he needs psychological help.

emo72

RayM wrote: »

You think people shouldn't "leave him be"? What should they do instead?

I'd say there'd be a fair few people that would tear him apart limb by limb. What good would it do? None obviously. But if his id ever leaked out, he would be dead.

Super-Rush

BNMC wrote: »

People should leave him be. He did the crime and has served his time.

Should we?

He was a sick fcuk as a child and he's a sick fcuk as an adult.

He has no place in society.

Tombi!

Found a few links:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2409521/Jon-Venables-freed-James-Bulger-killer-secretly-released-jail-given-FOURTH-new-identity.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23941699
http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/daybreak-jon-venables-killer-james-bulger-released-prison-093500648.html

KKkitty

BNMC wrote: »

People should leave him be. He did the crime and has served his time.

If you have kids would you leave them with him?

RayM

Super-Rush wrote: »

Should we?

Rather than leaving him be, what should people do?

Vito Corleone

KKkitty wrote: »

If you have kids would you leave them with him?

lol. How is that relevant?

Tombi!

Vito Corleone wrote: »

lol. How is that relevant?

You're joking, right?
Guy murders a child, gets out and then gets caught with child porn. I think it's safe to say that most people wouldn't leave him around kids.

Galwayguy35

Is the other fella, Thompson still in prison?

You wouldn't hear about him at all.

Gannicus

scudzilla wrote: »

Bollox, he did the crime, served the time, got released, got caught again (with kiddie porn), served the time again, now he's out.

Leave him be me hole

Super-Rush wrote: »

Should we?

He was a sick fcuk as a child and he's a sick fcuk as an adult.

He has no place in society.

I tend to agree. There is literally no place for this kinda of animal in civilized society. I would be more inclined to think that he's going to rot in hell (if you are religiously inclined) for his actions anyway and he could do society a favour and off himself. I'm not normally this harsh but in this case I am willing to make the exception.

Vito Corleone

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

You're joking, right?
Guy murders a child, gets out and then gets caught with child porn. I think it's safe to say that most people wouldn't leave him around kids.

What point are you trying to argue? Yes, obviously you wouldn't leave him around kids.

What is it with people on here trying to twist what you say into something completely different?

RayM

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

You're joking, right?
Guy murders a child, gets out and then gets caught with child porn. I think it's safe to say that most people wouldn't leave him around kids.

The thread is about him being released from prison, not about whether he should be employed as a babysitter.

Jesus...

Rayne Wooney

Big Steve wrote: »

I tend to agree. There is literally no place for this kinda of animal in civilized society. I would be more inclined to think that he's going to rot in hell (if you are religiously inclined) and he could do society a favour and off himself. I'm not normally this harsh but in this case I am willing to make the exception.

God forgives!


No in all seriousness, I agree with what you're saying but what can be done, can't keep him in prison if he hasn't committed a crime. The only thing they can do is let him go.

kryogen

He should be under 24 hour supervision, whether that be in prison or not is up for debate maybe, but he should not be walking around a free man with all the liberties afforded to people who have not been shown to be sick animals

Tombi!

Vito Corleone wrote: »

What point are you trying to argue? Yes, obviously you wouldn't leave him around kids.

The point is most people wouldn't trust him at all with kids. And guess what... kids get to play outside and aren't under supervision 100% of the time.

RayM wrote: »

The thread is about him being released from prison, not about whether he should be employed as a babysitter.

Jesus...

Right so you can't see why people would assume he's a danger to kids and society?

Super-Rush

RayM wrote: »

Rather than leaving him be, what should people do?

Campaign to have him locked up for good.

KKkitty

He's a menace to society and this new identity bollox should be stopped. Wherever he goes he should be made say who he is.

Billy86

Super-Rush wrote: »

Campaign to have him locked up for good.

The authorities have already decided against that, sorry.

downonthefarm

emo72 wrote: »

I think I would tend to leave him alone. But something tells me he will do something to get himself sent back in. This guy seems to have a compulsion to mess his life up. He doesn't need outside help to **** things up.

if he was living next door to your family??if it was me he would be shot on sight,imo

Gannicus

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

God forgives!


No in all seriousness, I agree with what you're saying but what can be done, can't keep him in prison if he hasn't committed a crime. The only thing they can do is let him go.

If God can forgive this sick sack of shít then I'm glad I'm not a believer.

I'll put him down and I'm sure I would not be the first person in the queue to offer my services.

I can tolerate a lot of sh1t in this world and only be miffed or angry by it but, child abusers (beatings and sexual/psychological abuse), child murderers, child traffikers & Child pornographers make my blood boil so much so that I would offer my services quite readily to cull this kind of scum from our world.

Sorry but its a soft spot for me.

Billy86

downonthefarm wrote: »

if he was living next door to your family??if it was me he would be shot on sight,imo

You do realise then that you'd be going right to jail, with the children you were looking to protect growing up without a parent? It would make no sense.

If the guy has any sense (which of course he doesn't, going by his past record) he would move to another country or continent.

Billy86

Big Steve wrote: »

I'll put him down and I'm sure I would be the first person in the queue to offer my services.

Again, big talk but given that you'd then be straight off to jail for 10-20 years... no you wouldn't.

CaliforniaDream

RayM wrote: »

The thread is about him being released from prison, not about whether he should be employed as a babysitter.

Jesus...

If you starting dating him unaware of his identity and he did something to a child you care about, you found out his real identity, would you ignore his past crimes since he 'paid his time'?
You don't have to hire him as a babysitter for him to pose a threat to kids.

I can't see who wrote the original quote so I apologise if it wasn't you.

willmunny1990

Should be given life without the possibility of parole.

He's a liability to himself and others, apparently he revealed his true identity on two separate occasions. He's been downloading child porn, was arrested for affray and abused drugs and alcohol, I mean Jesus it's obvious he needs to be locked up.

downonthefarm

Billy86 wrote: »

You do realise then that you'd be going right to jail, with the children you were looking to protect growing up without a parent? It would make no sense.

If the guy has any sense (which of course he doesn't, going by his past record) he would move to another country or continent.

i wouldnt be getting caught.

emo72

downonthefarm wrote: »

if he was living next door to your family??if it was me he would be shot on sight,imo

I daresay if his neighbours knew who he was he would be dead within hours. I wouldn't have to shoot him, a mob would kill him. Anyway it's a moot point. He will be banged up again soon. The guy is ****ed.

Tombi!

CaliforniaDream wrote: »

I can't see who wrote the original quote so I apologise if it wasn't you.

I wrote the post he quoted: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=86365245&postcount=15

KKkitty

He could always get in the way of someone while they were doing target practice with a gun

Son Of A Vidic

As a child he murdered a young toddler in an attack of twisted savagery. When released, he is then caught with kiddie porn. This is too good for him imo, but it's better than nothing I suppose.

prizefighter

Apparently he's started an online pledgedrive to raise 20k so he can move to Thailand.

Tombi!

KKkitty wrote: »

He could always get in the way of someone while they were doing target practice with a gun

Reminds me of Snake from the Simpsons explaining why he's shot:
Yo, um, I must've, like, fell on a bullet, and it, like, drove itself into my gut.

Gannicus

Billy86 wrote: »

You do realise then that you'd be going right to jail, with the children you were looking to protect growing up without a parent? It would make no sense.

If the guy has any sense (which of course he doesn't, going by his past record) he would move to another country or continent.

No I know it may sound strange but I think he should his passport revoked and that he be tagged. If he p1ssed off to let's say Spain or south america (or somewhere without strict visa requirements) it may/would make it a lot easier for him to harm another child.

CaliforniaDream

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

I wrote the post he quoted: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=86365245&postcount=15

Thanks, it was the post by BNMC where he states people leave him alone I was referring too.
On my phone so couldn't check when replying.

Some people simply have no place in society and he has been given enough chances to prove he's one of them.

Billy86

downonthefarm wrote: »

i wouldnt be getting caught.

I... think you underestimate forensics and such. Either that or overestimate yourself, given that you'd have implicated yourself in public here to begin with. Anyone who murders this guy is getting caught straight away. You'd want to go under the pseudonym Heisenberg to have a chance at escaping it.

What I don't get is how he has not been institutionalised at this point - it's clear he was a deranged kid who has turned into a perhaps even more deranged adult, with a f***ed up life from the get go. There's no way he'll ever be anything resembling normal at this point.

Dermighty

KKkitty wrote: »

If you have kids would you leave them with him?

I wouldn't leave my kids with anyone I didn't know....

Billy86

Big Steve wrote: »

No I know it may sound strange but I think he should his passport revoked and that he be tagged. If he p1ssed off to let's say Spain or south america (or somewhere without strict visa requirements) it may/would make it a lot easier for him to harm another child.

This is true to a fair extent, though the cynic in me figures the British authorities would be relieved to have the hassle he brings off their hands, and he would still be a registered sex offender with the local authorities fully aware of what he has done.

He would also need to gain permission to go anywhere outside the EU from them first. Not sure if that would be the case within, due to free travel vs. child sex offenses and the savage Bolger murder?

KKkitty

Dermighty wrote: »

I wouldn't leave my kids with anyone I didn't know....

Exactly but any minute of any day he could be near kids.

Gannicus

Would anyone be against this as a minimum course of action:

1. Putting a 24 hour tracking tag on him.
2. Not allowing him use a device which has internet access (maybe stick a wi-fi jammer in his home)
3. Maintain 100metres from any child
4. Regular inspection of his "home" by a police official.
5. Any breach of his parole life without parole or bail in prison.

RayM

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Right so you can't see why people would assume he's a danger to kids and society?

There is quite a leap between him being released from prison and people "leaving their kids with him".

Seriously, this whole issue seems to turn some some people into full-blown, pitchfork-wielding retards:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5StCxzD-jQ

Tombi!

RayM wrote: »

There is quite a leap between him being released from prison and people "leaving their kids with him".

I never said. Other people assumed I meant that because of the fact I'm aware that he can and will easily have access to kids. This isn't a case of people overreacting.
He's shown that given a second chance, he can't fit into society. It's not like the chap got drunk and started a fight. It's common knowledge that possessing child porn is bad.

He had his chance, he f**ked it up and I wouldn't let him out.

Billy86

Big Steve wrote: »

Would anyone be against this as a minimum course of action:

1. Putting a 24 hour tracking tag on him.
2. Not allowing him use a device which has internet access (maybe stick a wi-fi jammer in his home)
3. Maintain 100metres from any child
4. Regular inspection of his "home" by a police official.
5. Any breach of his parole life without parole or bail in prison.

And finally, someone injects some actual sense into the thread!

Gannicus

Billy86 wrote: »

This is true to a fair extent, though the cynic in me figures the British authorities would be relieved to have the hassle he brings off their hands, and he would still be a registered sex offender with the local authorities fully aware of what he has done.

He would also need to gain permission to go anywhere outside the EU from them first. Not sure if that would be the case within, due to free travel vs. child sex offenses and the savage Bolger murder?

I know he would absolve the UK authorities of any hassle or responsibility if he moved out of the country but as the crime was committed under their jurisdiction they should hold the responsibility of making sure he doesn't commit yet another offence. I think the same could AND should have been said and done for the likes of Larry Murphy over here.

Vito Corleone

KKkitty wrote: »

Exactly but any minute of any day he could be near kids.

I get your point, but the same could be said for any released sex offender. What you are basically saying is that crimes of this nature should carry a life sentence?

Tombi!

Vito Corleone wrote: »

I get your point, but the same could be said for any released sex offender. What you are basically saying is that crimes of this nature should carry a life sentence?

No, everyone should get a second chance (well, unless it's obvious they intend to commit more crimes) but the guy ruined his second chance.