roundbale transport cost

leoch

does anyone know how much it would cost to lorry a load of round bales of straw from the midlands to up north and how many can u put on a lorry load

whelan1

thats a very vague question, are the bales 5x4 or 4x4 , where in the midlands to where in the north

Muckit

Most artics would bring 60 4x4s. Price. ... not a clue. I'm thinking €250ish...... could be way off. Whelan ask hubby :-)

whelan1

also how many bales are you talking about moving, like would it be half a load or 4 loads?????????

leoch

One load of 4x4s straw sixty odd wat ever a full load is say from kidare,offaly,meath,w.meath to Donegal sligo

pakalasa

leoch wrote: »

One load of 4x4s straw sixty odd wat ever a full load is say from kidare,offaly,meath,w.meath to Donegal sligo

Have you been looking at the prices on dondeal? Straw is a lot cheaper in certain counties alright.

Sharpshooter82

The uncle got straw from Wexford to Westmeath for 15 euro a round bale and I think 3 euro of that was the transport.

freedominacup

Leave the rounds where they are and get big squares. You're hiring a truck and trying to divide the cost out over an amount of straw. There'll be far more straw moved for your buck with big squares.

whelan1

Sharpshooter82 wrote: »

The uncle got straw from Wexford to Westmeath for 15 euro a round bale and I think 3 euro of that was the transport.

how many where on the load?

Sharpshooter82

36 bales

Sam Kade

I got a man to deliver 20 bales of silage to a farmer 18 miles away last spring with a tractor and trailer. He charged him €180 to deliver.

Sharpshooter82

Sam Kade wrote: »

I got a man to deliver 20 bales of silage to a farmer 18 miles away last spring with a tractor and trailer. He charged him €180 to deliver.

9 euro a bale mmmm

Dampintheattic

Sam Kade wrote: »

I got a man to deliver 20 bales of silage to a farmer 18 miles away last spring with a tractor and trailer. He charged him €180 to deliver.

Let's say, two hours in total, to deliver and return to base. €180.
€90 per hour. Greedy

nashmach

Dampintheattic wrote: »

Let's say, two hours in total, to deliver and return to base. €180.
€90 per hour. Greedy

Was just going to point out the same, max of three hours on the clock, should be around 120.

whelan1

Dampintheattic wrote: »

Let's say, two hours in total, to deliver and return to base. €180.
€90 per hour. Greedy

and diesel , tolls are free... journey might have been 2 hours but how long where they loading /unloading?

Sharpshooter82

whelan1 wrote: »

and diesel , tolls are free... journey might have been 2 hours but how long where they loading /unloading?

id unload 18 bales in about a half hour once the yard wasnt tiny

Sharpshooter82

nashmach wrote: »

Was just going to point out the same, max of three hours on the clock, should be around 120.

even 100 would be enough

whelan1

Sharpshooter82 wrote: »

id unload 18 bales in about a half hour once the yard wasnt tiny

arent ya great:D

whelan1

Sam Kade wrote: »

I got a man to deliver 20 bales of silage to a farmer 18 miles away last spring with a tractor and trailer. He charged him €180 to deliver.

i am sure if it was now it would be less, people where desperate for feed last spring, and that guy obviously got his bit out of it

Sam Kade

whelan1 wrote: »

i am sure if it was now it would be less, people where desperate for feed last spring, and that guy obviously got his bit out of it

No it was before the real panic in early feb. I loaded myself and he unloaded. Thought it was a bit of a grab but I put the man buying the bales in contact with the driver and he agreed to pay that delivery cost.

whelan1

Sam Kade wrote: »

No it was before the real panic in early feb. I loaded myself and he unloaded. Thought it was a bit of a grab but I put the man buying the bales in contact with the driver and he agreed to pay that delivery cost.

must tell my husband:D amazed your man paid that, have ya got his number:D:D

Dampintheattic

whelan1 wrote: »

i am sure if it was now it would be less, people where desperate for feed last spring, and that guy obviously got his bit out of it

Shortage of feed, not a shortage of a means to transport it.
That was one hungry hoor.

whelan1

Dampintheattic wrote: »

Shortage of feed, not a shortage of a means to transport it.
That was one hungry hoor.

mustnt have been a shortage of funds either if your man paid it

Sam Kade

whelan1 wrote: »

must tell my husband:D amazed your man paid that, have ya got his number:D:D

I have matter of fact he is in the same business as your husband, there must be great money in it

whelan1

Sam Kade wrote: »

I have matter of fact he is in the same business as your husband, there must be great money in it

i dont see much of it:mad:

Sharpshooter82

whelan1 wrote: »

arent ya great:D

just highly efficient, until i manage to tear one in the panic :P

Sharpshooter82

whelan1 wrote: »

i am sure if it was now it would be less, people where desperate for feed last spring, and that guy obviously got his bit out of it

yeah but theres having a neck like a jockeys b*****ks too. too many lads cashing in on others misfortune.

bob charles

Lads do you guys think contractors can run machines of fresh air.

Someone mentioned €180 to shift 20bales, 18miles or 36 miles of a round trip. call it 2 hours on the road and an hour loading unloading for €145 plus VAT. so €46 quid an hour in his pocket. Job was probably €20 quid too expensive but if it took an hour at each end to load and unload he is down to €36 quid an hour plus vat. He wont be getting fat outta that. Most on here havnt a clue on what it costs to run machines and do work. No wonder contractors find it hard to survive with customer with unrealistic expectations

Sharpshooter82

bob charles wrote: »

Lads do you guys think contractors can run machines of fresh air.

Someone mentioned €180 to shift 20bales, 18miles or 36 miles of a round trip. call it 2 hours on the road and an hour loading unloading for €145 plus VAT. so €46 quid an hour in his pocket. Job was probably €20 quid too expensive but if it took an hour at each end to load and unload he is down to €36 quid an hour plus vat. He wont be getting fat outta that. Most on here havnt a clue on what it costs to run machines and do work. No wonder contractors find it hard to survive with customer with unrealistic expectations

I do haulage work like that myself and last year i seen lads charge an extra 10-20 euro an hour to haul bales just because they knew farmers were in bother and they knew the farmers needed the bales badly so cashed in (thats what i have a problem with). Bad practice in my mind. I gladly hauled a few loads of donated bales for farmers around the area early in the year free of charge. As i unloaded some of the farmers would be nearly in tears over what i can only guess was either the kindness of other farmers with the fodder or the shame of being in the bother they were in.

Sam Kade

bob charles wrote: »

Lads do you guys think contractors can run machines of fresh air.

Someone mentioned €180 to shift 20bales, 18miles or 36 miles of a round trip. call it 2 hours on the road and an hour loading unloading for €145 plus VAT. so €46 quid an hour in his pocket. Job was probably €20 quid too expensive but if it took an hour at each end to load and unload he is down to €36 quid an hour plus vat. He wont be getting fat outta that. Most on here havnt a clue on what it costs to run machines and do work. No wonder contractors find it hard to survive with customer with unrealistic expectations

But I loaded it for him and didn't charge the man buying the bales for loading them. it only took 20 minutes to load so must have been the same or quicker unloading

bob charles

Sam Kade wrote: »

But I loaded it for him and didn't charge the man buying the bales for loading them. it only took 20 minutes to load so must have been the same or quicker unloading

he was still on hire and could be making money at something else while being loaded. So just because he is on 40hr and waiting to be loading isnt his problem. Fast loading and unloading will always get a keener price. I have a guy hauling at the moment and the agreement is he can unload 24hrs as it means he can keep moving with drivers double shifting

leoch

so can anyone answer the original question or give a rough figure

Dampintheattic

leoch wrote: »

so can anyone answer the original question or give a rough figure

I got a load of straw delivered 200 mile round trip for truck.
Haulage man charged me €1.10 a mile each way.
32 bales cost me €220 for haulage.

If your man on the tractor in the previous threads, did the haulage for me, I'd be in NAMA today:eek:

bob charles

leoch wrote: »

so can anyone answer the original question or give a rough figure

okay Full load from Birr in Offaly to Donegal town would be around €500 - €600 all in, depending on who you get to do the job

paddysdream

Euro to a euro ten per mile.Thats both ways by the way ie you pay for the idle journey as well as the loaded one.
Best way is ,if you aint in a major hurry,to get someone looking for a backload.
Artic will carry 60 or 66 if a 45ft. trailer or 65 7ftx70cmx120cm big square stacked 5 high.
Price of straw has fallen a bit in the last couple of weeks and according to some people its getting a bit harder to shift

Important that the bales are sound and not sponges.
Few years since I sold hay or straw to the west but always the first question always was"which baler baled them and are they 47, 48, 49 ,50 inches etc"

Farmers forget that 2 or 3 hours spent loading and strapping down costs money plus an awkward yard for unloading can be a pain in the a**.

Charge 28 to 30 an hour loading or drawing bales(tractor plus 1 trailer).Not vat registered and discount for those that pay quick(very very scarce!)
Loading an artic out of a shed in a good yard is a pleasure but the same when the bales are in a field(sometimes not even gathered up) is a different story what with trying to find a level place to load(very important in order to get the load correct)

Priced another man who drew a lot of bales and he was on 38 per hour for tractor and 32 ft trailer.

ps. anyone looking for straw (barley or wheaten in round or big square) then pm me.

Sam Kade

bob charles wrote: »

he was still on hire and could be making money at something else while being loaded. So just because he is on 40hr and waiting to be loading isnt his problem. Fast loading and unloading will always get a keener price. I have a guy hauling at the moment and the agreement is he can unload 24hrs as it means he can keep moving with drivers double shifting

If I were charging €40/hour for my time to make and store the silage bales on top of the cost of making them I would be charging a lot more than €24/bale. Teagasc did a cost on making round bales worked out at €35/bale.

paddysdream

Sam Kade wrote: »

If I were charging €40/hour for my time to make and store the silage bales on top of the cost of making them I would be charging a lot more than €24/bale. Teagasc did a cost on making round bales worked out at €35/bale.

Its a charge for the tractor,trailer plus diesel plus time.Maybe thats why many farmers say they are making no money.
If your time aint worth at least 12 euro an hour(rem. Aldi etc pay this for till staff) plus say 10 an hour for diesel etc plus a charge for the tractor and trailer then you are just a Vincent De Paul job.

Sam Kade

paddysdream wrote: »

Its a charge for the tractor,trailer plus diesel plus time.Maybe thats why many farmers say they are making no money.
If your time aint worth at least 12 euro an hour(rem. Aldi etc pay this for till staff) plus say 10 an hour for diesel etc plus a charge for the tractor and trailer then you are just a Vincent De Paul job.

If you over charge or fleece enough customers you could be left at home looking out the window at your tractor and trailer lying idle in the yard;)

paddysdream

Not too idle.:D
Put in 200 big squares plus a few rounds this morning then home at 3:mad: to collect the chaps from school and babysit till mammy home at 5:30.Dinner now got and off to draw 80 wraps home for another fellow.

Sam Kade

paddysdream wrote: »

Not too idle.:D
Put in 200 big squares plus a few rounds this morning then home at 3:mad: to collect the chaps from school and babysit till mammy home at 5:30.Dinner now got and off to draw 80 wraps home for another fellow.

If you're charging €10/hour for diesel you might want to check your fuel system for leaks

bob charles

Sam Kade wrote: »

If you over charge or fleece enough customers you could be left at home looking out the window at your tractor and trailer lying idle in the yard;)

if you charge too little you will have no tractor to look out at

Sam Kade wrote: »

If you're charging €10/hour for diesel you might want to check your fuel system for leaks

€10 of diesel is about right unless your on the road with a ferguson 20

Sam Kade

bob charles wrote: »

if you charge too little you will have no tractor to look out at




€10 of diesel is about right unless your on the road with a ferguson 20

How much is too little yourman probably spent 2.5-3 hours max for €180 that's €60-€72/hour
€10 of diesel is 2.3 gallons an hour are you sure it's a tractor he's drawing with not a silage harvester?

epfff

Sam Kade wrote: »

How much is too little yourman probably spent 2.5-3 hours max for €180 that's €60-€72/hour
€10 of diesel is 2.3 gallons an hour are you sure it's a tractor he's drawing with not a silage harvester?

Driving hard on the road I'd be happy to get away with only burning that sorta fuel
harvesters in heavy 30ft swart with no delays for trailers etc will burn 10 times that in the hour

bob charles

epfff wrote: »

Driving hard on the road I'd be happy to get away with only burning that sorta fuel
harvesters in heavy 30ft swart with no delays for trailers etc will burn 10 times that in the hour

few years ago we had to go with 5 gls drums to get the harvestor over the end line as white diesel put in the bowser by mistake. We had 11ac of maize left to harvest and a 5mile drive home for the harvester. Anyone want to guess how my 5 gls drums we needed

lakill Farm

bob charles wrote: »

few years ago we had to go with 5 gls drums to get the harvestor over the end line as white diesel put in the bowser by mistake. We had 11ac of maize left to harvest and a 5mile drive home for the harvester. Anyone want to guess how my 5 gls drums we needed

when I picked up off a jaguar 890 in 2003 it would use 800 litres in a 16hour day.

the JCB 412 or 414 on the pit would not do a whole day on a tank

lakill Farm

bob charles wrote: »

few years ago we had to go with 5 gls drums to get the harvestor over the end line as white diesel put in the bowser by mistake. We had 11ac of maize left to harvest and a 5mile drive home for the harvester. Anyone want to guess how my 5 gls drums we needed

30

Sharpshooter82

20

bob charles

something with 15 is what I remember, or one every 5 minutes:D

bulldozer I had on hire for 3.5 days (50 hrs) last week knocked back just over 2000ltrs

kylemc04

Thanks👍

epfff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122804241#Comment_122804241

10 a bale and they are doing you a favor

cute geoge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122804766#Comment_122804766

That's black market,the go of that job is 2 loads probably 4-5 hours work 200-250max