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50 year old garda charged with having 655 child sex pics

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭KwackerJack


    I was in Kilcock Court this morning and a man was being question over child porn?

    Surely its a higher matter than a district court??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    paddy147 wrote: »
    50 year old garda charged in Blanchardstown today with having loads of child sex pics and videos.......655 pics/videos to be exact

    He asked for free legal aid and got it too.
    Isnt free legal aid for people with no source of an income??:confused:


    He also somehow got a media ban on the court case.


    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda-charged-with-possession-of-655-images-of-child-sexual-abuse-1.1514919

    No, Free Legal Aid is for those who can display an income insufficient to cover the costs of their defence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Was there a reason given for the media ban?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,824 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    No, Free Legal Aid is for those who can display an income insufficient to cover the costs of their defence.


    So what would his salary be after 30 years service then I wonder??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    I was in Kilcock Court this morning and a man was being question over child porn?

    Surely its a higher matter than a district court??

    the initial charge is always in a District Court, Jurisdiction is then passed to higher Court once the District Court is satisfied that there is a case to answer.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    paddy147 wrote: »
    So what would his salary be after 30 years service then I wonder??

    His salary would not be the issue, it is his means after he pays mortgage, maintenance (if appropriate) etc.
    FLA has to be certified by the Judge after he is shown a statement of means.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    paddy147 wrote: »
    So what would his salary be after 30 years service then I wonder??
    Most likely not as much as his legal costs will amount to.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,824 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Why the media reporting ban then??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    Pretty disturbing all the same. Makes ya wonder what kind of access his job gave him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Why the media reporting ban then??
    That's not that unusual in a case such as this, though it can be challenged.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 54,868 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Fair play to the Garda who caught this creep. They must have been watching him. Hope he does time.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,824 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    That's not that unusual in a case such as this, though it can be challenged.


    But what is the reason for a media reporting ban??

    Is it "cause hes a garda"????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Fair play to the Garda who caught this creep. They must have been watching him. Hope he does time.

    Any chance of you allowing him a trial first? ya know just for the show of it:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    paddy147 wrote: »
    But what is the reason for a media reporting ban??

    Is it "cause hes a garda"????

    Because it is a case of a sexual nature.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Any chance of you allowing him a trial first? ya know just for the show of it:rolleyes:

    Maybe he was holding onto the pics "for a friend"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    wazky wrote: »
    Maybe he was holding onto the pics "for a friend"?
    No idea, but then again I haven't heard the evidence.Have you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    The article:

    A serving member of An Garda Síochana has appeared in court charged with possession of more than 650 images and video clips of child sexual abuse.
    The Garda, who has more than 30 years service in the force, cannot be named after Dublin District Court imposed reporting restrictions preventing the suspect from being identified.
    He appeared before Judge David McHugh at Blanchardstown court house, his second appearance before the courts on the charge. His first appearance went unnoticed by the media.
    The garda, who is based at a Dublin station and lives in the Leinster area, is charged with possession of 655 images and video clips of children being sexually abused.
    The charges relate to possessing the images at an address than cannot be disclosed because of the reporting restrictions, between July 30th and August 2nd, 2011.
    He has been suspended from duty and is still in receipt of his Garda salary.
    The court heard he had a mortgage and was struggling financially, with Judge McHugh granting a request from the suspect’s solicitor Dara Robinson for free legal aid.
    The garda was remanded on continuing bail, with the reporting restrictions from his first appearance extended. He will appear before the court again next month.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    No idea, but then again I haven't heard the evidence.Have you?

    Says charged on the possession of 600 child sex pics.

    Now if they actually found him in the possession of said pics, he hasn't got much of a case really, has he?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭cml387


    I can fully understand the reporting restrictions if the case will involve a minor who may have to give evidence.

    As evidence here is photographs which only the jury will see, I wonder at the reporting restrictions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Fair play to the Garda who caught this creep. They must have been watching him. Hope he does time.
    A (I assume now ex-)Gard and sex offender with child pornography all in one? Other inmates will have an absolute field day with him.

    If he is guilty, I hope they enjoy themselves with him inside.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    paddy147 wrote: »
    50 year old garda charged with having 655 child sex pics

    Surprised they didn't accidentally on purpose, put the wrong date on his warrant. Oh wait, that's only reserved for pedo's in the Judiciary


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    "Female Cyclist Dies"

    AH Response: What has her being female got to do with it?

    "Cancer Patient gets locked in luggage compartment of bus"

    AH Response: What the hell has her having cancer got to do with it?

    "GARDA found with child porn"

    AH Response: Pfft....why has he got free legal aid, he's a GARDA. Why is there a media blackout? Prolly cos he's a GARDA. Why can't we burn him at the stake now? Ah shure, he's a GARDA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭cml387


    keith16 wrote: »
    "Female Cyclist Dies"

    AH Response: What has her being female got to do with it?

    "Cancer Patient gets locked in luggage compartment of bus"

    AH Response: What the hell has her having cancer got to do with it?

    "GARDA found with child porn"

    AH Response: Pfft....why has he got free legal aid, he's a GARDA. Why is there a media blackout? Prolly cos he's a GARDA. Why can't we burn him at the stake now? Ah shure, he's a GARDA.

    Only the suspicion that, given previous examples of how the "establishment" protected it's own, there might be the outside possibility that preferential treatment may be a factor here. Only for discussion purposes you understand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 54,868 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    keith16 wrote: »
    "Female Cyclist Dies"

    AH Response: What has her being female got to do with it?

    "Cancer Patient gets locked in luggage compartment of bus"

    AH Response: What the hell has her having cancer got to do with it?

    "GARDA found with child porn"

    AH Response: Pfft....why has he got free legal aid, he's a GARDA. Why is there a media blackout? Prolly cos he's a GARDA. Why can't we burn him at the stake now? Ah shure, he's a GARDA.

    I actually praised the Garda who caught him and i'm not anti-Garda at all.
    I do find it hard to think of a legitimate excuse for having child porn and in huge quantities in your own home or anywhere else for that matter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    I actually praised the Garda who caught him and i'm not anti-Garda at all.
    I do find it hard to think of a legitimate excuse for having child porn and in huge quantities in your own home or anywhere else for that matter.
    Whether he actually was in possession of it remains to be proved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Whether he actually was in possession of it remains to be proved.

    The article says the images were at his address (which cannot be disclosed), no idea if he has a family or who he lives with but doesn't look good for him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    cml387 wrote: »
    Only the suspicion that, given previous examples of how the "establishment" protected it's own, there might be the outside possibility that preferential treatment may be a factor here. Only for discussion purposes you understand.
    Numerous Gardaí have been charged, convicted, and imprisoned including for child sex offences.
    Google Sergeant Kieran O'Halloran.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    I actually praised the Garda who caught him and i'm not anti-Garda at all.
    I do find it hard to think of a legitimate excuse for having child porn and in huge quantities in your own home or anywhere else for that matter.


    And on RTE 1 as we speak - a programme dedicated to Myrtle Allen (mother of Tim Allen), yes ladies and gentlemen the love between RTE and Ballymaloe has not faded 1 iota

    This is from 10 years ago, yet it could read like what that Garda's is accused of...except in Tim Allen's case it was 977 pornographic images of children......www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/shameful-truth-that-lay-behind-ballymaloes-wholesome-image-26228305.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    vicwatson wrote: »
    And on RTE 1 as we speak - a programme dedicated to Myrtle Allen (mother of Tim Allen), yes ladies and gentlemen the love between RTE and Ballymaloe has not faded 1 iota

    This is from 10 years ago, yet it could read like what that Garda's is accused of...except in Tim Allen's case it was 977 pornographic images of children......www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/shameful-truth-that-lay-behind-ballymaloes-wholesome-image-26228305.html

    And you believe that Myrtle should be punished for Tim's crimes, ehm novel idea.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 54,868 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    And you believe that Myrtle should be punished for Tim's crimes, ehm novel idea.

    I believe Vic's complaint was that Mr Allen did no time and got off lightly with a fine. I found that hard to stomach too.


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