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John Waters goes to prison......

  • 03-09-2013 06:40PM
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭


    .......and gets released two hours later.

    Jailbird John !


    If ever there was a golden chance to give the country a bit of peace & quiet by keeping him in there, it was today.


    We'll never hear the end of this now.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Its a bit ridiculous that he got a ticket for been 1 minute late on a parking ticket and ends up in Jail. Does the justice system have nothing better to do?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭Days 298


    So if you don't pay a parking tickets you go to jail for 2 hours and not receive a criminal record. Seems like a bargain rather than paying the tickets at €40 a pop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,359 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    He was already on Hook earlier.
    Fair play to the guy.Apparently there's problems in the area as regards parking and trading.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Its a bit ridiculous that he got a ticket for been 1 minute late on a parking ticket and ends up in Jail. Does the justice system have nothing better to do?

    Why do people never read these things? That's clearly not the reason that he went to jail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    and how much did that all cost in forms and other personnel expenses? :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Why do people never read these things? That's clearly not the reason that he went to jail.

    It is. Listen to the Hook interview.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭Days 298


    It is. Listen to the Hook interview.

    He was sent to jail for not paying the fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,494 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Days 298 wrote: »
    He was sent to jail for not paying the fine.

    Which is still just as stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Days 298 wrote: »
    He was sent to jail for not paying the fine.

    Yes, and why was he fined? For getting a ticket perhaps?
    And why did he get a ticket? For allowing his parking to expire by 1 minute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    They should just have added the outstanding amount to his forthcoming property tax bill.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Yes, and why was he fined? For getting a ticket perhaps?
    And why did he get a ticket? For allowing his parking to expire by 1 minute.

    That's baffling logic.

    So if after getting this ticket because his parking expired by 1 minute, John Waters decided to punch the parking warden in the face, he shouldn't go to jail because he was only 1 minute late on his parking? The fact of the matter is, this is all about his refusal to pay a fine handed to him by a court, nothing to do with him letting his parking expire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,707 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Apparently it was 16 minutes. There is a 15 minute grace period. The man is obviously an idiot.

    Someone should suggest he go on hunger strike to protest this perceived injustice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭ceegee


    It is. Listen to the Hook interview.

    He went to jail for repeatedly refusing to pay a court fine. He also didnt overstay by one minute, he overstayed by one minute past an unstated grace period, so its not as if the warden was waiting to catch him out the second his ticket expired.

    His argument about dundrums pricing is bullsh!t as well, comparing a massive multistorey carpark to onstreet parking. Shopping centre carparks are incentivised to encourage you to stay as long as possible spending money in the centre, if onstreet parking was priced the sane then all the spaces would be taken up for the day by workers, meaning less people would shop in these stores hes apparently trying to save


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    That's baffling logic.

    So if after getting this ticket because his parking expired by 1 minute, John Waters decided to punch the parking warden in the face, he shouldn't go to jail because he was only 1 minute late on his parking? The fact of the matter is, this is all about his refusal to pay a fine handed to him by a court, nothing to do with him letting his parking expire.

    I don't know what you are arguing about. He would not have been fined if he did not let his parking expire. So the expired parking led to the fine. He refused to pay the fine which led to a warrant. The warrant had expired which led to another warrant which led to wheatfield.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    I don't know what you are arguing about. He would not have been fined if he did not let his parking expire. So the expired parking led to the fine. He refused to pay the fine which led to a warrant. The warrant had expired which led to another warrant which led to wheatfield.

    All of that's irrelevant. The only relevant point is that he choose not to pay a fine that he was legally obliged to pay. There's no glaring injustice here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    What did achieve?

    Fúck all.

    Except for wasting court time, of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,494 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    ceegee wrote: »
    He went to jail for repeatedly refusing to pay a court fine. He also didnt overstay by one minute, he overstayed by one minute past an unstated grace period

    What a scumbag.. he should have been sentenced to at least 3 hours in jail.

    Seriously though, it's stupid that a person can be imprisoned for refusing to pay such a small and menial fine. It's just plain embarrassing that the courts time is eaten up by dealing with this muck.

    Who exactly benefits from the outcome of this case?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Hedgemeister


    Fines are for the little people.
    If one writes for The Times one should be excused trivalities such as parking tickets.
    The poor auld Parking Attendant will probably get a bolliking for his diligence.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    What a scumbag.. he should have been sentenced to at least 3 hours in jail.

    Seriously though, it's stupid that a person can be imprisoned for refusing to pay such a small and menial fine. It's just plain embarrassing that the courts time is eaten up by dealing with this muck.

    I agree completely. These fines should be coming directly from people's incomes rather than wasting time sending them to jail for 2 hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    I wonder if Waters was offered a choice, would he opt for crucifixion over jail time altogether?

    Sinead O' Connor could perform the last rites by the side of the cross, as he dictates his next column for the Irish Times.


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    I'm just waiting on him to find a way of blaming this on women and atheists.

    Remember, this is a man who was deemed less sane than Sinead O'Connor when it came to custody of their child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭ceegee


    What a scumbag.. he should have been sentenced to at least 3 hours in jail.

    Seriously though, it's stupid that a person can be imprisoned for refusing to pay such a small and menial fine. It's just plain embarrassing that the courts time is eaten up by dealing with this muck.

    Who exactly benefits from the outcome of this case?

    I agree that prison terms for these fines are ridiculous and think court fines should be taken at source from income but the current system is what it is and Waters acted the way he did solely to get jailed and subsequent publicity for himself. There was very little the courts could do in this instance but detain him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭Days 298


    Fines should be got rid of and replaced with community service for parking offences. Its lighter on the offenders pocket and gives something back to the community rather than it money just being used to shore up some deficit. Very hard for someone to wiggle out of community service on "principle". This court case probably took up numerous hours and had a big tab. 2 hours community service rather than the current joke of pay the fine or go to jail. And if you don't do it one penalty point end of. Numerous man hours and money saved. Of course the state would prefer the money :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,707 ✭✭✭stimpson


    ceegee wrote: »
    . There was very little the courts could do in this instance but detain him

    They could have found him in contempt of court and detained him indefineatly. Everybody wins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,110 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    If he was trying to make a stand on principle about the parking in the area, he wouldn't have bought a parking ticket in the first place. He got caught out, refused to pay out of sheer pig-headedness and was rightly called out on it. Only shame is that it wasn't 2 days instead of 2 hours, at least then we might have been spared this week's inevitable article about blahblahblahMoralsblahblahblahsocietyblahblahblahreligion which is barely readable due to how many times he Shift+F7s every f*cking word.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    the thread listings in AH
    John Waters goes to prison..
    Ejaculation

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭IsaacWunder


    No sane person would persist with such a petulant crusade.

    By the way, I'm crying, writing this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    No sane person would persist with such a petulant crusade.
    You're right.

    The state is not behaving rationally.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    That's learned em John...no more parking tickets will be handed out in Dun Laoghaire now, no sirree.


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  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A sterling opportunity to silence him, foolishly squandered.

    Prepare for endless yarns of his stoicism and heroics in the face of prisons deprivations.

    Possibly even poetry. I see it now, The Ballad Of Mountjoy Gaol.


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