John Waters goes to prison......

Lapin

.......and gets released two hours later.

Jailbird John !


If ever there was a golden chance to give the country a bit of peace & quiet by keeping him in there, it was today.


We'll never hear the end of this now.

Menas

Its a bit ridiculous that he got a ticket for been 1 minute late on a parking ticket and ends up in Jail. Does the justice system have nothing better to do?

Days 298

So if you don't pay a parking tickets you go to jail for 2 hours and not receive a criminal record. Seems like a bargain rather than paying the tickets at €40 a pop.

kneemos

He was already on Hook earlier.
Fair play to the guy.Apparently there's problems in the area as regards parking and trading.

Amirani

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Its a bit ridiculous that he got a ticket for been 1 minute late on a parking ticket and ends up in Jail. Does the justice system have nothing better to do?

Why do people never read these things? That's clearly not the reason that he went to jail.

mike65

and how much did that all cost in forms and other personnel expenses? :mad:

Menas

NiallSparky wrote: »

Why do people never read these things? That's clearly not the reason that he went to jail.

It is. Listen to the Hook interview.

Days 298

Trigger Happy wrote: »

It is. Listen to the Hook interview.

He was sent to jail for not paying the fine.

My name is URL

Days 298 wrote: »

He was sent to jail for not paying the fine.

Which is still just as stupid.

Menas

Days 298 wrote: »

He was sent to jail for not paying the fine.

Yes, and why was he fined? For getting a ticket perhaps?
And why did he get a ticket? For allowing his parking to expire by 1 minute.

mike65

They should just have added the outstanding amount to his forthcoming property tax bill.

Amirani

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Yes, and why was he fined? For getting a ticket perhaps?
And why did he get a ticket? For allowing his parking to expire by 1 minute.

That's baffling logic.

So if after getting this ticket because his parking expired by 1 minute, John Waters decided to punch the parking warden in the face, he shouldn't go to jail because he was only 1 minute late on his parking? The fact of the matter is, this is all about his refusal to pay a fine handed to him by a court, nothing to do with him letting his parking expire.

stimpson

Apparently it was 16 minutes. There is a 15 minute grace period. The man is obviously an idiot.

Someone should suggest he go on hunger strike to protest this perceived injustice.

ceegee

Trigger Happy wrote: »

It is. Listen to the Hook interview.

He went to jail for repeatedly refusing to pay a court fine. He also didnt overstay by one minute, he overstayed by one minute past an unstated grace period, so its not as if the warden was waiting to catch him out the second his ticket expired.

His argument about dundrums pricing is bullsh!t as well, comparing a massive multistorey carpark to onstreet parking. Shopping centre carparks are incentivised to encourage you to stay as long as possible spending money in the centre, if onstreet parking was priced the sane then all the spaces would be taken up for the day by workers, meaning less people would shop in these stores hes apparently trying to save

Menas

NiallSparky wrote: »

That's baffling logic.

So if after getting this ticket because his parking expired by 1 minute, John Waters decided to punch the parking warden in the face, he shouldn't go to jail because he was only 1 minute late on his parking? The fact of the matter is, this is all about his refusal to pay a fine handed to him by a court, nothing to do with him letting his parking expire.

I don't know what you are arguing about. He would not have been fined if he did not let his parking expire. So the expired parking led to the fine. He refused to pay the fine which led to a warrant. The warrant had expired which led to another warrant which led to wheatfield.

Amirani

Trigger Happy wrote: »

I don't know what you are arguing about. He would not have been fined if he did not let his parking expire. So the expired parking led to the fine. He refused to pay the fine which led to a warrant. The warrant had expired which led to another warrant which led to wheatfield.

All of that's irrelevant. The only relevant point is that he choose not to pay a fine that he was legally obliged to pay. There's no glaring injustice here.

I am pie

What did achieve?

Fúck all.

Except for wasting court time, of course.

My name is URL

ceegee wrote: »

He went to jail for repeatedly refusing to pay a court fine. He also didnt overstay by one minute, he overstayed by one minute past an unstated grace period

What a scumbag.. he should have been sentenced to at least 3 hours in jail.

Seriously though, it's stupid that a person can be imprisoned for refusing to pay such a small and menial fine. It's just plain embarrassing that the courts time is eaten up by dealing with this muck.

Who exactly benefits from the outcome of this case?

Hedgemeister

Fines are for the little people.
If one writes for The Times one should be excused trivalities such as parking tickets.
The poor auld Parking Attendant will probably get a bolliking for his diligence.

Amirani

My name is URL wrote: »

What a scumbag.. he should have been sentenced to at least 3 hours in jail.

Seriously though, it's stupid that a person can be imprisoned for refusing to pay such a small and menial fine. It's just plain embarrassing that the courts time is eaten up by dealing with this muck.

I agree completely. These fines should be coming directly from people's incomes rather than wasting time sending them to jail for 2 hours.

Pat Mustard

I wonder if Waters was offered a choice, would he opt for crucifixion over jail time altogether?

Sinead O' Connor could perform the last rites by the side of the cross, as he dictates his next column for the Irish Times.

Robbo

I'm just waiting on him to find a way of blaming this on women and atheists.

Remember, this is a man who was deemed less sane than Sinead O'Connor when it came to custody of their child.

ceegee

My name is URL wrote: »

What a scumbag.. he should have been sentenced to at least 3 hours in jail.

Seriously though, it's stupid that a person can be imprisoned for refusing to pay such a small and menial fine. It's just plain embarrassing that the courts time is eaten up by dealing with this muck.

Who exactly benefits from the outcome of this case?

I agree that prison terms for these fines are ridiculous and think court fines should be taken at source from income but the current system is what it is and Waters acted the way he did solely to get jailed and subsequent publicity for himself. There was very little the courts could do in this instance but detain him

Days 298

Fines should be got rid of and replaced with community service for parking offences. Its lighter on the offenders pocket and gives something back to the community rather than it money just being used to shore up some deficit. Very hard for someone to wiggle out of community service on "principle". This court case probably took up numerous hours and had a big tab. 2 hours community service rather than the current joke of pay the fine or go to jail. And if you don't do it one penalty point end of. Numerous man hours and money saved. Of course the state would prefer the money :rolleyes:

stimpson

ceegee wrote: »

. There was very little the courts could do in this instance but detain him

They could have found him in contempt of court and detained him indefineatly. Everybody wins.

Penn

If he was trying to make a stand on principle about the parking in the area, he wouldn't have bought a parking ticket in the first place. He got caught out, refused to pay out of sheer pig-headedness and was rightly called out on it. Only shame is that it wasn't 2 days instead of 2 hours, at least then we might have been spared this week's inevitable article about blahblahblahMoralsblahblahblahsocietyblahblahblahreligion which is barely readable due to how many times he Shift+F7s every f*cking word.

wp_rathead

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IsaacWunder

No sane person would persist with such a petulant crusade.

By the way, I'm crying, writing this.

Cody Pomeray

IsaacWunder wrote: »

No sane person would persist with such a petulant crusade.

You're right.

The state is not behaving rationally.

I am pie

That's learned em John...no more parking tickets will be handed out in Dun Laoghaire now, no sirree.

A sterling opportunity to silence him, foolishly squandered.

Prepare for endless yarns of his stoicism and heroics in the face of prisons deprivations.

Possibly even poetry. I see it now, The Ballad Of Mountjoy Gaol.

BlatentCheek

In the George Hook interview he claimed that there was a protest outside the courthouse over it and described himself as having been on the run. Bit of a jesus complex.

I suspect he got a ticket, wasn't bothered or forgot to pay it back and then just ran with it as a useful way to claw back some public attention after the end of his halcyon days spent stirring up controversy while the abortion bill went through the Dail.

SpaceTime

I assume the local council involved will be refunding us for using the criminal courts and prison service at absolutely vast expense to collect a €2 unpaid parking fee.

Fr_Dougal

Lapin wrote: »

.......and gets released two hours later.

Jailbird John !


If ever there was a golden chance to give the country a bit of peace & quiet by keeping him in there, it was today.


We'll never hear the end of this now.

Couldn't read the article, that retarded Journal.ie site keeps trying to make me download the app. Probably not missing much either, their site seems to be aiming for the Daily Mail retard market.

Eight Ball

Did the same in 2011 myself. Refused to pay the TV licence and spent no more than 90 minutes inside. Haven't heard from them since but am prepared to go in again if they come sniffing around. The prison guards where sound and told me they had between 20-30 of these TV licence turnarounds a day and about another 20-30 non fine payments but this was in 2011 so may well be more or less now.

Legs.Eleven

He's some idiot.

kneemos

Eight Ball wrote: »

Did the same in 2011 myself. Refused to pay the TV licence and spent no more than 90 minutes inside. Haven't heard from them since but am prepared to go in again if they come sniffing around. The prison guards where sound and told me they had between 20-30 of these TV licence turnarounds a day and about another 20-30 non fine payments but this was in 2011 so may well be more or less now.

You're still liable for backdated payments.

JustAddWater

NiallSparky wrote: »

That's baffling logic.

It's fact, not logic

Nothing baffling about it

jimmycrackcorm

It's a pity they don't shave prisoners hair when they arrive at prison. I'd say he'd have thought twice about not paying the fine instead if that was the case.

Eight Ball

kneemos wrote: »

You're still liable for backdated payments.

I know

wil

Ye's are all to blame (not necessarily a bad thing). He was looking for Petersons.;)

Yellowblackbird

Thousands of euro, perhaps tens of thousands belonged to the irish tax payer were given up to process this baby ego through the criminal justice system.

This arrogant baby with his little ego. No one tells me what to do.

You spoilt brat. You can have discussions at your book club. You can have committee meetings at your league of twats club. In court the Judge hands down sentence and you don't get to negotiate or discuss. If you're fined you pay the fine.

You're lucky to live in such a forgiving society that indulges inconsequential windbags such as yourself. It's a pity you don't get what you deserve.

Tom Hanks

Waters loving the sound of his own voice today on Newstalk.

Nobody gives a f**k about ya m8....

efb

He probably thinks he's Mandela now!

Cienciano

Robbo wrote: »

Remember, this is a man who was deemed less sane than Sinead O'Connor when it came to custody of their child.

I'm glad I clicked into this thread just to read that line. LOL!

Roger_007

efb wrote: »

He probably thinks he's Mandela now!

Mandela used to think he was John Watters:D

cdebru

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Yes, and why was he fined? For getting a ticket perhaps?
And why did he get a ticket? For allowing his parking to expire by 1 minute.

16 minutes he was allowed a 15 minute grace period and he still didn't get back on time, seems fair to me unless you are suggesting he should get a grace period on the grace period.
Should have kept him in for being an idiot.

folan

how long did he leave his fine unpaid for? has he been fined for this before? has he been working with the council to get better parking conditions for the local area?

Roger_007

folan wrote: »

how long did he leave his fine unpaid for? has he been fined for this before? has he been working with the council to get better parking conditions for the local area?

In answer to all your questions, John is the Rosa Parks, (pun intended), of Dun Laoghaire.
He is campaigning for an end to discrimination against long-haired journalists by the hated traffic-control gestapo.

Festy

They should bring back the death penalty for scumbags like these

folan

Roger_007 wrote: »

In answer to all your questions, John is the Rosa Parks, (pun intended), of Dun Laoghaire.
He is campaigning for an end to discrimination against long-haired journalists by the hated traffic-control gestapo.

that sounds unfair! He was on the Hook, therefore he must be an upstanding and balanced member of society.

(also, awesome punning!)