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Michael Le Vell (mod warning first post)

  • 03-09-2013 04:37PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    So the trial of Michael Le Vell (Kevin Webster Corrie) began yesterday. He is up for 12 charges including rape of a 6 year old. The accuser is now 17. He is strenuously denying these allegations. Coronation street have agreed to give him a €250,000 contract back on the show if he proves himself innocent. I don't know what to believe anymore.
    danniemcq wrote: »
    Once again folks, no speculation or subtle comments hinting at those who involved in the case. The girl is still a minor and therefore protected doesn't matter if the accusations were false or not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Mr.McLovin


    my thoughts are with sally and the kids, that gail platt one will have a field day with this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    Whats blue and full of Haribo? Kevin Websters overalls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Norris is the "facilitator".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    There are so many cases coming to light now it's hard to get your head around it.

    Unfortunately, if any of the allegations are proven to be false, it will be devastating for the real victims.

    I can't get over Rolf Harris, I really liked him. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky



    I can't get over Rolf Harris, I really liked him. :(

    If your 12, he would probably like you too.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,255 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    I used to work in Manchester. Where the office was there was a high street with a few pups. Used to always see him there at lunch/after work locked. I've seen it reported that he is an alco. Doesn't surprise me


  • Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well a case like this is ferociously difficult to prove without physical evidence. And horrible if he gets off and is guilty and equally horrible if he's found guilty and is innocent.

    Unfortunately when it comes to jury's they can believe what they want and not necessarily the facts.

    I don't think there is any actual evidence judging from what I've read.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    godtabh wrote: »
    I used to work in Manchester. Where the office was there was a high street with a few pups. Used to always see him there at lunch/after work locked. I've seen it reported that he is an alco. Doesn't surprise me

    baby dogs now? :eek::eek::eek::eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭the keen edge


    The ironic thing is if there was anything half decent on the tele all this unpleasantness may not have happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    There are so many cases coming to light now it's hard to get your head around it.

    Unfortunately, if any of the allegations are proven to be false, it will be devastating for the real victims.

    I can't get over Rolf Harris, I really liked him. :(

    Me too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    Innocent till proven guilty - but if guilty , hope they all get some un wanted attention from sexual predators while inside.

    Saville , DLT , the guy from its a knock out , michael le vell , garry glitter , rolf harris , ect ect ect

    it's will be more shocking to find out a 70's tv star was not fiddling with kids,


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭sabat


    godtabh wrote: »
    I used to work in Manchester. Where the office was there was a high street with a few pups. Used to always see him there at lunch/after work locked. I've seen it reported that he is an alco. Doesn't surprise me

    Yeah cos problem drinker = paedo. Going on the evidence so far, it sounds like she's making it up-especially considering her hymen is intact. Have any other victims come forward? Is it normal for a middle-aged man to morph into a paedophile overnight?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭podgemonster


    sabat wrote: »
    Yeah cos problem drinker = paedo. Going on the evidence so far, it sounds like she's making it up-especially considering her hymen is intact. Have any other victims come forward? Is it normal for a middle-aged man to morph into a paedophile overnight?

    Tyrone?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    sabat wrote: »
    Yeah cos problem drinker = paedo. Going on the evidence so far, it sounds like she's making it up-especially considering her hymen is intact. Have any other victims come forward? Is it normal for a middle-aged man to morph into a paedophile overnight?
    A paedophile wouldn't be attracted to a 16 year old.

    Edit: She was 6 not 16.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭sabat


    A paedophile wouldn't be attracted to a 16 year old.

    Happened when she was 6 apparently


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    sabat wrote: »
    Happened when she was 6 apparently
    I'm really losing it, I thought she was 16!

    Hearing and eye tests for me!


  • Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    She is 17 now and if she is found to be lying she should have her name and face plastered all over the paper and see how she likes it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    There's also some inconsistencies in her evidence. Earlier she gave a statement saying that she had told 'loads of her friends' and then later she claims she didn't tell anyone because she was too ashamed.

    The thing is, with all these allegations surfacing, it's quite possible that someone could make up allegations against a big (& wealthy) TV personality in order to get a nice compensation payout.

    And in cases like this, it really is just one persons word against another. So he could be guilty as hell, but he could also be the real victim in this. Without physical evidence, it's impossible to know the truth with 100% certainty.


  • Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    In a case like this it comes down to whether the Jury believe the Girls tears or Michael's head shaking.

    The Jury system is IMO a farce because you have ordinary people trying to decide difficult cases and it's hard not to become emotional in difficult cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    godtabh wrote: »
    I used to work in Manchester. Where the office was there was a high street with a few pups. Used to always see him there at lunch/after work locked. I've seen it reported that he is an alco. Doesn't surprise me

    well, thank **** you're not on the jury!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    There's also some inconsistencies in her evidence. Earlier she gave a statement saying that she had told 'loads of her friends' and then later she claims she didn't tell anyone because she was too ashamed.

    The thing is, with all these allegations surfacing, it's quite possible that someone could make up allegations against a big (& wealthy) TV personality in order to get a nice compensation payout.

    And in cases like this, it really is just one persons word against another. So he could be guilty as hell, but he could also be the real victim in this. Without physical evidence, it's impossible to know the truth with 100% certainty.

    The Scottish verdict option of "not proven" is very sensible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    sabat wrote: »
    Yeah cos problem drinker = paedo. Going on the evidence so far, it sounds like she's making it up-especially considering her hymen is intact. Have any other victims come forward? Is it normal for a middle-aged man to morph into a paedophile overnight?
    How would it be possible to rape a 6 year old and leave the hymen intact? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    How would it be possible to rape a 6 year old and leave the hymen intact? :confused:

    Orally or anally.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How would it be possible to rape a 6 year old and leave the hymen intact? :confused:

    Jaysus, don't want to even think about that FFS ! Christ !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭Corvo


    Met him quite a few times. Always drinks in the same bar in Manchester. Definitely fond of his beer, but I don't see how that makes him a pervert.

    Always nice to me anyway...

    Unless...

    He thought...

    Oh no...

    :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭Corvo


    How would it be possible to rape a 6 year old and leave the hymen intact? :confused:

    Jesus Christ :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,353 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Trying to prove these things years after the fact makes it extremely difficult to determine what the truth is. More reason to try to get kids to come forward as soon as possible.

    As it is the allegations have to be proven beyond doubt and already doubt is showing up in the girls testimony.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Orally or anally.
    Is that what he's charged with?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Is that what he's charged with?

    Im not sure if thats been revealed.

    He is being prosecuted for 12 charges: five counts of rape, three of indecent assault, two counts of sexual activity with a child and two of causing a child to engage in sexual activity. Whats the difference between sexual assault and sexual activity with a child? No idea.

    Do we know yet how he knows the girl?

    Edit2: There is an allegation of oral rape, but Im not sure about the rest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY




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