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Gas gone up again

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Electricity will be next. :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    Feck sake Bord Gáis...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Electricity will be next. :(

    it already will be in October. there using any excuse to squeeze money out of everyone. There is no Recession if you supply the energy apparently we need more competition in these sectors.


  • Site Banned Posts: 257 ✭✭Driveby Dogboy


    i run the gas off the electricty, and the electricty off the gas, and save $200 a year!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    it already will be in October. there using any excuse to squeeze money out of everyone. There is no Recession if you supply the energy apparently we need more competition in these sectors.

    There is loads of competition with at least four separate companies supplying domestic gas.
    Truth is Energy prices are on the rise, and we are dependant on gas imports.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    i run the gas off the electricty, and the electricty off the gas, and save $200 a year!
    What the euro equivalent?:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭hansfrei


    Bottle your farts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    There is loads of competition with at least four separate companies supplying domestic gas.
    Truth is Energy prices are on the rise, and we are dependant on gas imports.

    4 is loads ? seems like a pretty handy club to control the price. if only Insurance company's had thought of this oh wait..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Yawns


    WTF. Last time they wanted a 12% but were given the go ahead for +20% and now another increase.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Gas gone up again.

    Helium is it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    Wait till Syria gets bombed. You're looking at a rise in petrol too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    4 is loads ? seems like a pretty handy club to control the price. if only Insurance company's had thought of this oh wait..
    Well whats your suggestion? How would you reduce the cost of gas?
    four suppliers is quite a lot in a domestic gas market as small as Irelands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    i run the gas off the electricty, and the electricty off the gas, and save $200 a year!

    what?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Site Banned Posts: 257 ✭✭Driveby Dogboy


    What the euro equivalent?:p
    oh, about three fiddy...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,729 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    4 is loads ? seems like a pretty handy club to control the price. if only Insurance company's had thought of this oh wait..

    The energy market here is the same size as Greater Manchester.
    More energy companies doesn't automatically mean lower prices, particularly when we're so heavily dependent on importing the vast majority of our energy anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Well whats your suggestion? How would you reduce the cost of gas?
    four suppliers is quite a lot in a domestic gas market as small as Irelands.

    more like 4 middle men not suppliers and energy diversity would be my answer but to many people in the country are complaining about the view being ruined with giant turbines. imagine if they wanted them out a sea too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Heroditas wrote: »
    The energy market here is the same size as Greater Manchester.
    More energy companies doesn't automatically mean lower prices, particularly when we're so heavily dependent on importing the vast majority of our energy anyway.
    Doesn't Bord Gáis own the network anyway? There's no real independant supplier, so all prices are pretty similar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,729 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    Doesn't Bord Gáis own the network anyway? There's no real independant supplier, so all prices are pretty similar.

    There's an element of network/transportation costs yes but also a lot has to do with booking capacity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭hansfrei


    Rob your neighbours gas. Stick a magnet on the meter. Sell your sperm online etc......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    more like 4 middle men not suppliers and energy diversity would be my answer but to many people in the country are complaining about the view being ruined with giant turbines. imagine if they wanted them out a sea too.
    we have some degree of energy diversity including wind turbines , even at sea!
    Problem is that wind turbines need a traditional back up for when the wind isn't strong enough.
    Secondly wind is no replacement for gas in many instances.
    since we have virtually no gas supplies of our own all gas suppliers are "middlemen" however there are substantial differences in what they charge for the product.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Doesn't Bord Gáis own the network anyway? There's no real independant supplier, so all prices are pretty similar.
    Bord Gais networks own the network, they are no longer part of Bord Gais Energy a separate entity.
    There are four separate suppliers to the domestic market and their prices vary substantially.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    we have some degree of energy diversity including wind turbines , even at sea!
    Problem is that wind turbines need a traditional back up for when the wind isn't strong enough.
    Secondly wind is no replacement for gas in many instances.
    since we have virtually no gas supplies of our own all gas suppliers are "middlemen" however there are substantial differences in what they charge for the product.

    I gave 1 example .. i did say energy diversity that does not exclude all other energy production but you just seem to jump on the point and try to shoot it down. You have heard of Nuclear power stations right ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,729 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    Bord Gais networks own the network, they are no longer part of Bord Gais Energy a separate entity.
    There are four separate suppliers to the domestic market and their prices vary substantially.

    Soon to be five with the new entrant!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    I gave 1 example .. i did say energy diversity that does not exclude all other energy production but you just seem to jump on the point and try to shoot it down. You have heard of Nuclear power stations right ?

    My gas cooker wont work of nuclear unfortunately.:D
    Any between the cost of building them (you need two) running them, decommissioning them, they are madly expensive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    My gas cooker wont work of nuclear unfortunately.:D
    Any between the cost of building them (you need two) running them, decommissioning them, they are madly expensive.

    so shooting down every suggestion is your solution then ? and get an electric cooker then


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    so shooting down every suggestion is your solution then ? and get an electric cooker then

    I'm not shooting anything down, except the idea that:
    a) A secret cartel is ripping off the Irish gas consumer
    b) a small almost bankrupt country can afford to build and maintain a nuclear energy industry.

    I will stick to cooking with gas, its cleaner and much easier to control, thanks all the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby



    But I don't buy my gas from Bord Gais, so how am I paying for loaning them money?:confused:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,403 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I thought we were sitting on huge gas fields.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    spurious wrote: »
    I thought we were sitting on huge gas fields.

    One , the Corrib, but that still hasn't come ashore, and when it does it will be sold on the wholesale market.


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