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  • 29-08-2013 12:36pm
    #1
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭


    I got a notice today about a Cortina I allegedly owned at some stage (I have had so many I can't actually recall this one!)

    I just bounced back the notice saying just that, but am I right in thinking, if I did own it still, there would never be any liability on me unless I came to tax it?


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  • #2
    MercMad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭MercMad


    Reckon you are right, but what did it say ?

    I actually bought a car in January this year and only when filling out the new RF150 and the RF100A did I discover they stamped the date as January 2003 !:eek:


  • #3
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    it said I was recorded as the owner in 2010 and had advised the car wasn't on the road then and they were concerned in cases like this that there might eventually be a big tax liability should I put it back on the road one day. They asked who I had sold it to (if I had) or for details of it being scrapped. Darned if I remember .... (I DID have a gold one about that time but afaik it was on UK plates....


  • #4
    w124man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭w124man


    I got a notice today asking about one of my cars - did I still own it or was it taxed. Last week I declared it off road with Wexford Co Co!!

    Nice to see that the right hand knows what the left is doing!


  • #5
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    See my post on the motors sticky on this from this eve. They've moved the goalposts again. ..

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #6
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    but have they? in view of the notice I got.....


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  • #7
    carchaeologist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    corktina wrote: »
    but have they? in view of the notice I got.....

    You wouldn't know, as I bet they are swamped with a sea of taxbooks and paperwork.

    They never accounted for all the old stuff in the country, that is blatantly obvious.


  • #8
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    not only are they swamped in that way, they will soon be swamped with chasing people who didn't the system was changing and who try to tax their cars next month with arrears back to the year dot. I bet this time next year people will still be trying to get the gards to sign a RF100a!


  • #9
    carchaeologist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    corktina wrote: »
    not only are they swamped in that way, they will soon be swamped with chasing people who didn't the system was changing and who try to tax their cars next month with arrears back to the year dot. I bet this time next year people will still be trying to get the gards to sign a RF100a!

    Or the guys that won't bother to do anything, and then get arsy when they get fined next time they try and tax the car, there's quite a few of those too.


  • #10
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    carchaeologist wrote: »
    Or the guys that won't bother to do anything, and then get arsy when they get fined next time they try and tax the car, there's quite a few of those too.

    ...in which case I foresee a lot of car ....'sales' in the future.....and 'resales' back to original owner again to get around it.

    They really haven't a clue. No matter what they come up with, in the absence of an input from the people most affected - motorists - it will be a worse, slower, more cumbersome and ultimately more costly system.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #11
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    yes you can do that now, but will they shut that loophole before these guys get chance to take advantage of it? I've a feeling they will


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  • #12
    carchaeologist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    corktina wrote: »
    yes you can do that now, but will they shut that loophole before these guys get chance to take advantage of it? I've a feeling they will

    And what about the legitimate guys?
    You can't be liable for taxing a car you didn't own.


  • #13
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    they'll only change it (imo) so that the previous owner gets a bill, not the new owner.


  • #14
    hi5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭hi5


    carchaeologist wrote: »
    You wouldn't know, as I bet they are swamped with a sea of taxbooks and paperwork.

    They never accounted for all the old stuff in the country, that is blatantly obvious.

    Yes, 'out of touch' is the term that's usually used.

    People collect all sorts of things, ever wonder how many old coins or stamps or farm implements are out there hoarded away in a drawer or a room, imagine if they all had to be accounted for:eek:.

    If people think something is worth a few bob, they wont scrap it.



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