Gameweek 4 Transfers/Wildcarding Fortnight

Mr.Prodston

Having made the obligatory Hazard to Silva transfer earlier in the week I'm sure I'm not alone in letting my thoughts drift past this gameweek 3 and onto the 2 week international break. In this time the transfer window will have closed (11pm September 2nd) and who knows what exciting talent will have arrived. Also players prices can tend to fluctuate even more due to more scrutiny in a 2 week period and of course we'll have 3 GWs worth of experience under out belts. For many all of this will point to being the best time to:



Yes indeed for myself and many others I think the Wildcard will be cracked out this week. With the BPS it seems clear that defenders are more important now than in the past with a clean sheet not necessarily being worth your standard 4 points. As I've mentioned before "The times they are a-changin'"

There are still a few days left in the transfer so plenty of time for many last minute deals to wrap up and be pushed through. Erik Lamela is somebody I'll watch with interest and who knows any or all of Ozil, Di Maria or dare I whisper it Ronaldo (wishful thinking right?) could all ply their trade in the FPL.

Under a wildcard week or in this case fortnight the beauty has been the ability to raise the value of your team by transfering in and out players rising and falling. That .5 could be crucial when trying to push through a deal for an inform player a few weeks down the line.

For others this week will be about holding tight and riding the crest of those playing their hand early on. Perhaps the 2nd international break will be more beneficial in just over a months time. For all it will be about bringing in the right players moving forward or solving nagging issues.

Before we break off into debate and discussion I will point one last thing out to everyone even though I'm sure most are already acutely aware. This man is playing at home to the newly promoted Crystal Palace:



Good luck with making the right choice :pac:

SlickRic

RVP will be the first guy in at 11.31am on Saturday for my wildcard.

Lemlin

SlickRic wrote: »

RVP will be the first guy in at 11.31am on Saturday for my wildcard.

I'm hoping he'll be 14.1 by then to penalise you non believers! About 6k transfers off a rise according to FISO.

I'm also hoping he'll score a hat trick Saturday morning. Of course, United will get a penalty but he'll be nice and let Rooney take it.

Mignolet will make another outstanding penalty save to ensure his tally isn't too effected by RVP's hat trick.

I played my wildcard in gameweek 1 and got players like RVP, Zab and Nolan. I hope these will still be the lads going into teams next week.

Swiper the fox

Anyone who knows anything about my FPL history will know that I don't go in for the old RVP postman, must have bull****, I think he is a great player who's best days are in the past, he'll still probably be at or very near the top of the scorers but nothing to justify his price tag, it remains to be seen what role Rooney will play and what effect that will have, as well as that the fact that he won't be picking up handy bonus points for deflected goals and penalties at the same rate as last year will cost him, this is only my opinion of course. BUT, a Saturday morning game at home to Palace when almost 50% of all players will have him as captain is a big worry, it's all part of the fun.
The debate about using the wildcard before now has been alive here for the past week, someone made good points for using it this week but I think it's a bit mad to activate it before the end of the window, there are so many big hitters who could be coming into the league this week, benching some current options and changing roles for others. Mata is likely to become an option also wherever he ends up.
I'm happy enough with my team right now but if there are big changes and we see the likes of Ozil, Di Maria and a few others I could be persuaded to use it but I'd rather wait until things are more settled.

TheRedDevil10

If I use the wildcard at 11:31 am this Saturday does that mean I can make unlimited transfers for two weeks until the 11:30 am deadline on the 14th Sept ??

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Have done a 180 degree turn myself and am getting RvP in. Before the season started it looked as if he wasn't worth the money, but with the diminished importance of midfelders he's looking like a must-have again.

Last year midfielders were far more important than defenders, but with the new BP system that looks to have changed (too early to say anything for sure though).I'll be happy with RvP, Soldado and a.n. other, plus 2 good midfielders, 4 good defenders & Mignolet, with the rest from the bargain bin.

Of course on Saturday I'll only be getting in potential price risers, won't actually focus on making my team until about (looks at calender) Friday the 13th :eek:

G1032

TheRedDevil10 wrote: »

If I use the wildcard at 11:31 am this Saturday does that mean I can make unlimited transfers for two weeks until the 11:30 am deadline on the 14th Sept ??

Yes

JokerD

RVP at home to Palace, is there a case for a Man City striker this week then? Sounds like hopes are being pinned on the fact that a top 4 side is playing one of the new promoted teams. Could Aguero, Dzeko, Negredo be as good of options on this basis? This would also leave more money for a £9m midfielder instead of a £5.5m maybe.

Lemlin

Eto'o now confirmed as entering the fray:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23873089

Lemlin

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Anyone who knows anything about my FPL history will know that I don't go in for the old RVP postman, must have bull****, I think he is a great player who's best days are in the past, he'll still probably be at or very near the top of the scorers but nothing to justify his price tag, it remains to be seen what role Rooney will play and what effect that will have, as well as that the fact that he won't be picking up handy bonus points for deflected goals and penalties at the same rate as last year will cost him, this is only my opinion of course. BUT, a Saturday morning game at home to Palace when almost 50% of all players will have him as captain is a big worry, it's all part of the fun.
The debate about using the wildcard before now has been alive here for the past week, someone made good points for using it this week but I think it's a bit mad to activate it before the end of the window, there are so many big hitters who could be coming into the league this week, benching some current options and changing roles for others. Mata is likely to become an option also wherever he ends up.
I'm happy enough with my team right now but if there are big changes and we see the likes of Ozil, Di Maria and a few others I could be persuaded to use it but I'd rather wait until things are more settled.

I don't think Mata will be sold but, if he is, I think it will be to a club outside the Premier League.

The Independent had a piece yesterday saying the minute the Bale transfer eventually goes through they expect a number of deals to fall into place.

Swiper the fox

Lemlin wrote: »

I don't think Mata will be sold but, if he is, I think it will be to a club outside the Premier League.

The Independent had a piece yesterday saying the minute the Bale transfer eventually goes through they expect a number of deals to fall into place.

I read that piece, it was quite interesting. It is criminal to keep Mata on the bench, it beggars belief how Chelsea are better without him.

Lemlin

Swiper the fox wrote: »

I read that piece, it was quite interesting. It is criminal to keep Mata on the bench, it beggars belief how Chelsea are better without him.

Mourinho went there for a point. He has a plan for every game. Strategy down to a tee.

He obviously decided Mata wasn't right for that night but I think he'll still feature in other games.

Lemlin

Lemlin wrote: »

I don't think Mata will be sold but, if he is, I think it will be to a club outside the Premier League.

The Independent had a piece yesterday saying the minute the Bale transfer eventually goes through they expect a number of deals to fall into place.

Bale to madrid
Ronaldo to united
Rooney to chelsea
Mata to liverpool
Suarez to arsenal

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Lemlin

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Bale to madrid
Ronaldo to united
Rooney to chelsea
Mata to liverpool
Suarez to arsenal

Randymarsh.jpg

Nope, the Rooney move is apparently definitely off.

Can't remember the exact moves but they were more like Di Maria to Arsenal, Ozil to United and Mata possibly to Spurs.

Benimar

Lemlin wrote: »

I'm also hoping he'll score a hat trick Saturday morning. Of course, United will get a penalty but he'll be nice and let Rooney take it.

He can score all the hat tricks he wants on Saturday morning He might find it a bit tougher on Sunday afternoon!

Definitely wild carding on Saturday, as was my plan pre-season. I think it's the ideal time to do it but I need to have a good look at the balance of my 'new' team. Usually I go for cheap defenders but may have to upgrade there.

Seriously contemplating going without RVP as any RMTs I've seen with him in have, in my opinion, glaring weaknesses elsewhere. I always like to have 15 players who will play so won't have 4.0 non-playing players just to shoehorn RVP in.

Imagine if Moyes leaves him out prior to a couple of CL games? 14% of your budget on the bench!

jamesbere

Wildcarding before gw4, I'll wait till last minute in case they're injuries during the International break. I have fair idea of what my team will be, just unsure about 2 or 3 positions

Mr.Prodston

I presume Henerson's days are numbered once Suarez is back? Or anybody have any tips for who they'd pick for a midfielder that I could play every week no higher than 6.5.

Also what do we think about Gary Cahill starting every week in the Premier League? Been considering Dawson but Swiper has scared me off a little.

Finally would anyone be able to hazard a reasonable guess as to whether Lamela will be a mid or forward and how much he'd likely cost?

zl1whqvjs75cdy

Lemlin wrote: »

Eto'o now confirmed as entering the fray:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23873089

Chelsea are short of attacking options alright :rolleyes:

Lemlin

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

I presume Henerson's days are numbered once Suarez is back? Or anybody have any tips for who they'd pick for a midfielder that I could play every week no higher than 6.5.

Also what do we think about Gary Cahill starting every week in the Premier League? Been considering Dawson but Swiper has scared me off a little.

Finally would anyone be able to hazard a reasonable guess as to whether Lamela will be a mid or forward and how much he'd likely cost?

Ramsey is the form midfielder at less than 6.5 and Podolski's injury means he should be safe of his place for a while with Arteta and Ox also out.

I think Jose has his first choice back 4 - Ivan, Cahill, Terry, Cole. I am looking at Cahill as my Chelsea defender. I think Luiz will be played in midfield.

Lamela I think will be a mid and I reckon will come in at 9.5 to 10.

Panthro

Lemlin wrote: »

Ramsey is the form midfielder at less than 6.5 and Podolski's injury means he should be safe of his place for a while with Arteta and Ox also out.

I think Jose has his first choice back 4 - Ivan, Cahill, Terry, Cole. I am looking at Cahill as my Chelsea defender. I think Luiz will be played in midfield.

Lamela I think will be a mid and I reckon will come in at 9.5 to 10.

I think Dave is better than Ivanovic and Luiz better than Cahill.
But that's just me, and I'm no Jose!

Edit, that being said, I'm an avid fan of the notion of having Luiz DM.

Mr.Prodston

Lemlin wrote: »

Ramsey is the form midfielder at less than 6.5 and Podolski's injury means he should be safe of his place for a while with Arteta and Ox also out.

I think Jose has his first choice back 4 - Ivan, Cahill, Terry, Cole. I am looking at Cahill as my Chelsea defender. I think Luiz will be played in midfield.

Lamela I think will be a mid and I reckon will come in at 9.5 to 10.

I didn't include Ramsey because I have Walcott and I'll most likely have 3 in midfield most weeks. 2/3s of my starting mid being Arsenal isn't something I'd totally comfortable with but I'd never rule it out as Ramsey has been flying so far.

I have an urge to gamble on Lamela but that'd mean ditching Soldado so I may just have to temper my excitement.

Yeah it'll depend on whether he brings in a CB before Monday night. Don't see him trusting Luiz at the back myself and midfield is actually a better position for him I think.

Amirani

jamesbere wrote: »

Wildcarding before gw4, I'll wait till last minute in case they're injuries during the International break. I have fair idea of what my team will be, just unsure about 2 or 3 positions

Don't do that. Wildcard asap this Saturday, you can then make unlimited transfers until the next deadline. It's crazy to do otherwise.

Boots234

NiallSparky wrote: »

Don't do that. Wildcard asap this Saturday, you can then make unlimited transfers until the next deadline. It's crazy to do otherwise.

As in start wildcarding after 11.30 this Saturday?

Amirani

Boots234 wrote: »

As in start wildcarding after 11.30 this Saturday?

Yes. Then you'll have 2 weeks to make as many transfers as you want, all free.

This allows you to make some money on price changes. You can then set the team you want to stick with on Friday 13th September.

Benimar

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

I presume Henerson's days are numbered once Suarez is back? Or anybody have any tips for who they'd pick for a midfielder that I could play every week no higher than 6.5.

Not that I would advise getting Henderson, but its probably Aspas who would make way for Suarez. As much as Rodgers has talked about moving Coutinho central, I can't see him lining up Aspas--Coutinho--Suarez and having Sturridge up front, it's too open.

Henderson is in competition with Allen.

Everything changes if a left sided player is bought though.

Hogey007

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Anyone who knows anything about my FPL history will know that I don't go in for the old RVP postman, must have bull****, I think he is a great player who's best days are in the past, he'll still probably be at or very near the top of the scorers but nothing to justify his price tag, it remains to be seen what role Rooney will play and what effect that will have, as well as that the fact that he won't be picking up handy bonus points for deflected goals and penalties at the same rate as last year will cost him, this is only my opinion of course. BUT, a Saturday morning game at home to Palace when almost 50% of all players will have him as captain is a big worry, it's all part of the fun.
The debate about using the wildcard before now has been alive here for the past week, someone made good points for using it this week but I think it's a bit mad to activate it before the end of the window, there are so many big hitters who could be coming into the league this week, benching some current options and changing roles for others. Mata is likely to become an option also wherever he ends up.
I'm happy enough with my team right now but if there are big changes and we see the likes of Ozil, Di Maria and a few others I could be persuaded to use it but I'd rather wait until things are more settled.

bizarre statement!! the man is in the form of his life. golden boot winner for the last 2 seasons and has started this season with 4 goals in 3 games. (2 in 2 if we're just talking FF)
whether you think he's worth 14.0 is a different matter but you can't say his best days are behind him.

Swiper the fox

Hogey007 wrote: »

bizarre statement!! the man is in the form of his life. golden boot winner for the last 2 seasons and has started this season with 4 goals in 3 games. (2 in 2 if we're just talking FF)
whether you think he's worth 14.0 is a different matter but you can't say his best days are behind him.

He was a better player at Arsenal in my opinion, struggled a lot with a series of injuries and wasn't often the lone striker like he is at United, he's a great player but as a Spurs fan and not an FPL player I'm a lot less fearful of him now as I was when he was at his very best. I'm sure many will disagree but this is the way I see it, a player on the slide.
I would consider "the form of his life" to be a more bizarre statement.

Who_8_Paul?

Swiper the fox wrote: »

He was a better player at Arsenal in my opinion, struggled a lot with a series of injuries and wasn't often the lone striker like he is at United, he's a great player but as a Spurs fan and not an FPL player I'm a lot less fearful of him now as I was when he was at his very best. I'm sure many will disagree but this is the way I see it, a player on the slide.
I would consider "the form of his life" to be a more bizarre statement.

Fair enough if you don't think he is worth 14m, ie 5m over Sturridge or Benteke but 'a player on the slide', that's rubbish, he was far and away the best player in the league last year so unless he dramatically drops in form this year that's way off the mark. There was an argument here last year about whether or not Bale was in the top 10 players in the world, that's debatable. Whether or not Van Persie was on last years form is not

Swiper the fox

Who_8_Paul? wrote: »

Fair enough if you don't think he is worth 14m, ie 5m over Sturridge or Benteke but 'a player on the slide', that's rubbish, he was far and away the best player in the league last year so unless he dramatically drops in form this year that's way off the mark. There was an argument here last year about whether or not Bale was in the top 10 players in the world, that's debatable. Whether or not Van Persie was on last years form is not

So Van Persie is a better player than Bale going on last years form, interesting theory, I've no interest in a row, only giving my opinion which probably wasn't asked for.:)

thomasm

NiallSparky wrote: »

Don't do that. Wildcard asap this Saturday, you can then make unlimited transfers until the next deadline. It's crazy to do otherwise.

Christ I thought the wildcard was just one extra free transfer.....must read rules

Hogey007

Swiper the fox wrote: »

He was a better player at Arsenal in my opinion, struggled a lot with a series of injuries and wasn't often the lone striker like he is at United, he's a great player but as a Spurs fan and not an FPL player I'm a lot less fearful of him now as I was when he was at his very best. I'm sure many will disagree but this is the way I see it, a player on the slide.
I would consider "the form of his life" to be a more bizarre statement.

when i say form of his life i mean over a sustained period, which it has been, 2 seasons. he hasn't repeated that form anywhere else in his career for that long, injury played a large part in that as you say, but i think to say, that van persie over the last 2 years has seen the best of him is not a bizarre statement.
anyway, as you said to a different poster, i'm not looking for a row either, football is about opinions and ours vary a little, but not massively, so we'll leave it there and move back to the thread topic.

Santi101

RVP is THE man but I simply cannot justify the 14m outlay. Seen plenty of line-ups with him in them and there always seems to be a major area of weakness somewhere else.

He is only one man at the end of the day and other strikers will score 15 -20 PL goals.

Bleating Lamb

Out of interest what would be gained from wild carding straight after 11:30 am deadline? on the Sat?....if players were going to rise or fall in value sure wouldn't it be later on that night it would happen ?
I'm thinkn of wild carding but won't have access to a computer till Sat evening at earliest.

Hogey007

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Out of interest what would be gained from wild carding straight after 11:30 am deadline? on the Sat?....if players were going to rise or fall in value sure wouldn't it be later on that night it would happen ?
I'm thinkn of wild carding but won't have access to a computer till Sat evening at earliest.

there wouldn't be any, you'd be fine, i think people said 11:31 more in a jokey "i can't wait to get duds out of my team" kind of way.

F1ngers

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Out of interest what would be gained from wild carding straight after 11:30 am deadline? on the Sat?....if players were going to rise or fall in value sure wouldn't it be later on that night it would happen ?
I'm thinkn of wild carding but won't have access to a computer till Sat evening at earliest.

Hogey007 wrote: »

there wouldn't be any, you'd be fine, i think people said 11:31 more in a jokey "i can't wait to get duds out of my team" kind of way.

Like Hogey said, but you don't want to use the WC too late into the week either.
You want to catch any .2 risers that might happen over the course of the week.

Amirani

F1ngers wrote: »

Like Hogey said, but you don't want to use the WC too late into the week either.
You want to catch any .2 risers that might happen over the course of the week.

And lose any fallers you have of course.

FutureGuy

Question. Honest answers please.

Was Van Persie worth 13m last year, given his scoring record? Think about it before reading on. Yes or no?

So why is it he is suddenly not worth an extra 1m on top of that?

I think there is some sort of stigma attached to the "14". If he was 13.5, I think far more people would be getting him in.

We don't have Bale to worry about this year, we have a ton of bargains in defense and a few in midfield.

RIALTO1

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

I presume Henerson's days are numbered once Suarez is back? Or anybody have any tips for who they'd pick for a midfielder that I could play every week no higher than 6.5.

Also what do we think about Gary Cahill starting every week in the Premier League? Been considering Dawson but Swiper has scared me off a little.

Finally would anyone be able to hazard a reasonable guess as to whether Lamela will be a mid or forward and how much he'd likely cost?

Some support for those considering Henderson....

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/143786-jordan-can-hit-double-figures

G1032

FutureGuy wrote: »

Question. Honest answers please.

Was Van Persie worth 13m last year, given his scoring record? Think about it before reading on. Yes or no?

So why is it he is suddenly not worth an extra 1m on top of that?

I think there is some sort of stigma attached to the "14". If he was 13.5, I think far more people would be getting him in.

We don't have Bale to worry about this year, we have a ton of bargains in defense and a few in midfield.

But is he likely to repeat the scoring feats of last season? What was it 26 or 27 league goals? Thats some record. United I don't think will be quite as strong under Moyes as they were under Fergie

Didn't he also have a long spell without scoring last season too?? Now that means that he probably got he 26 or 27 goals in 26 or 27 games. But IIRC he did go a long spell without a goal. Thats a lot of money tied up in a striker not scoring. There'll be no bonus for strikers without a goal this season.

Ah I don't know. I've a team in my head for the wildcard and he's not in it. But as someone said here earlier............. Can you not have RVP at home to Palace??

Edit: Scrap all that I said!!! Just checked his stats for last season. 26 goals, 15 assists and 49 bonus. Sweet holy mother of God.

F1ngers

FutureGuy wrote: »

Question. Honest answers please.

Was Van Persie worth 13m last year, given his scoring record? Think about it before reading on. Yes or no?

So why is it he is suddenly not worth an extra 1m on top of that?

I think there is some sort of stigma attached to the "14". If he was 13.5, I think far more people would be getting him in.

We don't have Bale to worry about this year, we have a ton of bargains in defense and a few in midfield.

I don't think you can pick one player and say why was he worth 13 last year but not 14 this year, because you could probably have built a decent team last year by spending 13 on him.
Can you remember your starting team from last year?
Try to build it now with RvP at 14m.

I spent a good while trying to build a team with RVP in it, but it was just too weak in other areas.

By not picking RVP this year, I am building a nice looking team(re-building to 4-3-3 as opposed to 3-4-3 in light of the BPS).

Having said all that, my team value is now 101.2 and as soon as I can justify getting RVP into my team without upsetting the structure, he will be in there and he will be captain(even if he rises to 15m).

Iused2likebusts

FutureGuy wrote: »

Question. Honest answers please.

Was Van Persie worth 13m last year, given his scoring record? Think about it before reading on. Yes or no?

So why is it he is suddenly not worth an extra 1m on top of that?

I think there is some sort of stigma attached to the "14". If he was 13.5, I think far more people would be getting him in.

We don't have Bale to worry about this year, we have a ton of bargains in defense and a few in midfield.

I did post a question similar to that a while back as I couldnt see why people wouldnt sell last year at value 14(worth 13.5) but the same people are saying now that he is too expensive at 14. Fingers made a vey valid point which I hadnt considered and that is that 14 out of a 100 million budget is a lot more than 13.5 out of a 110 million budget( which a lot would have had later in the season). I have no problem having rvp in my team but will like last year move him in and out as I see fit. Most people seem to put him in and just leave him in.

Iused2likebusts

Heres hoping scott parker, frazer campbell, chamakh, , henderson and a palace or cardiff defender can score a goal over the weekend. We need a load of cheap players to have a good weekend. The extra .5 would be very welcome.

Dont be at yourself

A quick analysis of some strikers.

Productivity: Points per 100 minutes played (last season, higher is better):
Benteke: 5.89
Aguero 6.22
Sturridge 7.89
Van Persie 8.39

Value: Cost per point per 100 minute (based on current price, lower is better):
Benteke: 1.54
Aguero: 1.78
Sturridge: 1.15
Van Persie: 1.68

In terms of pure value, Van Persie is not as cost effective as Benteke or Sturridge, assuming they both play consistently for their teams. You also have to factor in that RVP gives you a fairly automatic captaincy choice, but I think the value is such a degree higher in other players that you're better off going for a more balanced team.

cathalio11

My plan has been to bring Van Persie in for the game against Crystal Palace.

If he doesn't score points against Liverpool, I'll consider it a success. If he does, depending on how many, it will be a failure to some extent.

The problem without RVP is that there are going to be those guaranteed 7-8 weeks in the season where he cleans up the gameweek with 2-3 goals and/or 1-3 assists. They are the gameweeks where people without RVP instantly find themselves 20 points short.

I can't take that stress again this season.

Iused2likebusts

coleman, barkley, collins, nolan, brady, soldado all in with a good chance of going up tonight and will be coming in to my team later on today. Coleman is someone Im not going with so will be a handy .2 rise for me.

cathalio11

Barkley giving a nice .2 or .3 value to my team.

Lemlin

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

coleman, barkley, collins, nolan, brady, soldado all in with a good chance of going up tonight and will be coming in to my team later on today. Coleman is someone Im not going with so will be a handy .2 rise for me.

I played my wildcard after GW1 and have every one of those bar Brady.

He will probably come into my team later today for Joe Cole.

Rikand

FutureGuy wrote: »

Question. Honest answers please.

Was Van Persie worth 13m last year, given his scoring record? Think about it before reading on. Yes or no?

So why is it he is suddenly not worth an extra 1m on top of that?

I think there is some sort of stigma attached to the "14". If he was 13.5, I think far more people would be getting him in.

We don't have Bale to worry about this year, we have a ton of bargains in defense and a few in midfield.

For me its more to do with the fact there are some fantastic options around the 9 million mark (benteke, soldado, sturridge, etc) that you could get in and spend money around the rest of the pitch


I still might get RVP but its not cut and dry

Iused2likebusts

Lemlin wrote: »

I played my wildcard after GW1 and have every one of those bar Brady.

He will probably come into my team later today for Joe Cole.

u got some nice price rises there. I already have soldado but only plan on holding onto collins and one of barkley or brady

Copper_pipe

Wildcard Activate!

Mr.Prodston

Time for breakfast and then I'll do more tinkering than Ranieri :pac: