Season 8 Episode 9 - "Make Your Own Kind Of Music"

Sofiztikated

No thread on this yet? Not particularly suprising, seeing the lack of love season 8 is getting.

Haven't watched it myself yet, will catch it when I get home.

And 2 weeks til the next episode!?!

loveisdivine

Fairly dull. I certainly don't see the end I wanted happening.
Looks like its moving towards the happy families in Argentina ending. Or maybe there will be some big twist in the last episode, but it will still feel rushed then.

I honestly don't really care about the brain surgeon. All I want to see is Dex getting caught and even if the brain surgeon story ultimately leads to that, there aren't enough episodes left to fully cover it.

Keano

The only highlight for me was Yvonne Strahovski in that dress :eek:

It's just become a show to pass away a boring Monday.

sweetie

a lot of sharks being jumped by dexter recently!

Backstreet Moyes

Deter kills brain surgeon. Vogal goes mad and kills Hannah the end.

Pang

I didn't find it as dull and boring as other episodes. It definitely went a bit quicker in terms of pace.

I'm sick of hearing about Argentina and this whole Harrison loving Hannah. I mean he met her once, maybe twice.

pixelburp

I think I've just bottomed out with Dexter; I didn't hate this weeks episode, but I didn't feel anything about it at all really. It just washed over me like a badly-scripted tide. I'm sure the various revelations about the Brain Surgeon might have shocked me had I the energy anymore to even invest any emotion in this show, negative or positive.

ixoy

Killer son back from the dead? Really? That's the best they can come up with?! Ugh.

Ah well hopefully Vogel will come along and let her son slaughter everyone and the show will end with her laughing maniacally over the corpses of the idiots at Miami Metro while the only survivor - Masouka's daughter - waves charm crystals around to dispel the bad juju.

I pissed myself only two minutes in. Hannah and Dex just had sex and she starts talking about Zach's demise! Also she's a fugitive but she wanders around Miami (looking mega hot in that pink number) completely unmolested.

I wasn't really listening about the hair under the table stuff...are they trying to say Zach put it there deliberately while he was being murdered? lol

Where can I download that facial recognition software? Also the computer sound effects were from an eighties sci-fi flick.

Deb didn't know who Masuka's daughter was yet she did a background check on her only two episodes ago.

Dexter's stealth stalking technique involed parking right next to Oliver Saxon and then staring at him through a cafe window for two hours.

Hannah and Deb are sworn enemies (Hannah stole Dex from her, poisoned her boyfriend (I think) and drugged her) but since Hannah cleaned up she's eating dinner prepared by a known poisoner.

If there's anybody who's not watching (suffering?) this then I'm not making this sh*t up honest! Isn't Showtime a subscription channel? People actually pay for this crap?

Where was the bit from last week's preview where Vogel was looking at a piece of brain in a jar? I could have missed it as I was doing something more interesting like watching paint dry at the time.

pixelburp

Deleted User wrote: »

Where can I download that facial recognition software? Also the computer sound effects were from an eighties sci-fi flick.

In slim defence of Dexter, that moronic trope isn't just limited to this show; despite computers now being an established part of daily life, TV & film still can't resist adding bleeps & bloops to even the most mundane of interfaces. I've come to expect it really.

Deleted User wrote: »

If there's anybody who's not watching (suffering?) this then I'm not making this sh*t up honest! Isn't Showtime a subscription channel? People actually pay for this crap?

Well that's part of the problem really, isn't it? In many respects, Dexter is a victim of its own success; the show became a huge hit for the station, and invariably this resulted in what I presume to be pressure from management to sanitize the lead character; that and absolve him of any responsibility for his unforgivable actions. Remember this is the Bay Harbour Butcher, currently being rewritten as Misunderstood Batman-on-a-Budget. It doesn't forgive the glaring faults in other aspects of the show (that f*cking voiceover), but just in terms of Dexter Morgan, you can clearly infer station interference in this character change alone.

SteelyDanJalapeno

Watching this on a Monday before the latest breaking bad each week, the contrast of how a show can do it right and how a show can do it wrong.

ixoy

pixelburp wrote: »

(that f*cking voiceover)

Don't forget Ghost Daddy. When Dexter found his slashed tires, Ghost Daddy appeared to make it very clear to the audience that Vogel's Plot Device Son had committed the crime. Obviously the viewers are too thick to have worked that out - thanks Ghost Daddy for clearing it up! Even Barney the dinosaur would have felt ashamed at having to insult a six year old's intelligence with that.

Kirby

Remember back in season 2 and 3 when we all postulated what the last season would look like? With the net closing in on Dexter?

Why the hell isn't that happening?

We are three episode from the end and not one single person is on to him. It's ridiculous. This feels like any other season.....not the last one. I'm quite disappointed. I like Hannah but she's not the problem. The writers have forgotten what this show was originally about. A serial killer on the edge of constantly getting caught.

I miss Doakes tbh. Even suspicious Quinn was good fun. His character become totally pointless once he stopped suspecting dexter. Nobody at Miami Metro even has a clue.

Bah.

jd007

Highlight of the whole season was that pink dress tbh.

tim3000

What a pointless episode. Vogel a psychologist an expert in psychopaths invites her son (whom three episodes ago was sending her threatening brain samples) to lunch and forsakes Dexter. This show has been running down hill since Deb killed La Guerta which I think was the death knell for the show, too much screen time of this last season was taken up fixing Debs problems. They could have built up the Brain Surgeon as a failed code of Harry candidate and made him a real challenge for Dexter

How I think it will end Vogels son will kill Hannah Dexter will kill him. Cue a monologue of how Dexter can never be happy as Deb goes back to being a Detective.

syklops

I can't believe this is the end.

No really, I can't believe this is the end. As Kirby says we are 3 episodes from the end, and no-one is aware of Dexter(the killer)'s existence. The current serial killer which no-one knows about, no-one knows about, and no-one knows the connections. Im kind of hoping they do a Hulk / Incredible Hulk on this and just do another Season 8.

"Hello Dexter Morgan" in Season 4 was I think the second to last episode, and by then we had a credible, and genuinely scary villain, and as much as I disliked whingey Rita, questions were being asked by her of where Dexter goes all the time.

Dex seems to spend a couple of hours in the office per day now, and his boss' sister is his baby sitter, seriously do neither of them talk?

Jamie:"Oh Angel, Im so tired after another 80+ hours of minding Harrison"
Angel: "But Dex was only in the office for 2 days this week. What does he do the rest of the time?"
Jamie:"I dunno but he buys a lot of duck tape and black plastic sheeting"

I mean, we already had the "Evil genius who escaped from the mental asylum" with Rudy. That repeating itself is a bit disappointing.

Could Dexters surveillance of whats-his-name been any more lame?

"I'll follow him until we're in a quiet place and then grab him"

Then it turns out its 20 metres to a very open car park in broad daylight, where his car is parked. Dexter from season 8, have you done this before?

Also Dexter's near almost obsession with Hannah is very unrealistic. Twice now Vogel has said a sociopathe is cold, calculating and removed from his feelings, pointing out Dexter was not any of those things at both points.. All of a sudden we have touchy feely dex, who wants to retire from feeling nothing to live in a small village in Argentina doing what?.

Is the biggest reveal going to come that Dex has been 'cured'. He is no longer a sociopathe, and now does have feelings? He no-longer has the urge to kill, its just habit, and he can ride off into the sunset with blondie 1 and blondie 2? Please.

And, yeah, the chances of an expert of sociopathes / serial killers, having a son who is also sociopathic is surely highly unlikely?

Sudden Valley

Can they have Deb make one decision and keep to it in the same episode- her constant changes in direction are giving me whiplash. Her having dinner with Hannah was such a surreal and stupid scene.

Sinfonia

As I idly browsed the web, with Dexter playing in a small VLC window, occasionally focusing just to fast forward, I realised that there's literally just nothing left. Nothing left to care about whatsoever.
When I watch the finale of Breaking Bad, I'll be in a dark room, by myself, with headphones, and lord help anyone who interrupts me for one second!
At this rate, I can barely imagine reaching the Dexter finale, and it's three ****ing episodes away!
What a bad, bad, season of television. Completely depressing given the materials the writers have to work with. Ugh.
God this ****'s pathetic. Anyone who actually thinks season 8 is good television seriously must be a total idiot, and thought earlier seasons were too subtle and nuanced to enjoy (well didn't *think* it, but you know).

Where was the bit from last week's preview where Vogel was looking at a piece of brain in a jar? I could have missed it as I was doing something more interesting like watching paint dry at the time.

That was at the end of the actual episode, not part of the preview.

Sinfonia

Hey guys, remember season 4?

When Trinity walked in to the homicide department, walked up to Dexter and said - with a wry smile - "Hello, Dexter Morgan" - CUT.
Shivers all over my body; could scarcely breathe.

Or Rita in the bath, with Harrison sitting on the floor?
Me jaw only hit the bloody deck.

Season 7 showed promise when it started up.
God dammit.

Staplor

Hannah's picture is all over the TV. So she puts on the hottest most sexiest dress ever and heels, just to go under the radar. Actually I'll forgive that error. Schwing.

GorillaRising

God. What a massive disappointed Dexter has been.

Where to even start with 'Oliver Saxon is Vogel's son - a psychopath who's back from the dead.'

That would be great if we'd ever f*cking heard of him and there was a back story!

Looks like the next few could be exciting - not by television standards, but in stark contrast to the rubbish we've been served thus far.

Here's hoping.

gnfnrhead

I hate comparing Dexter to Breaking Bad but you kind of have to. They are both focused on a guy who in reality is the villain, they air at the same time and are both in the final season. The quality difference is shocking. I thought maybe I wasn't enjoying Dexter as much due to watching it after Breaking Bad each week, but I held back and didn't watch Dexter until just now and I still don't care. I found myself asking why was I still watching it far too often. I've watched seven and a half seasons so feel obligated to watch the last few episodes without spoilers but I just don't care anymore and just want it to be over. Going to rewatch the first four seasons in a few months time so this isn't my lasting impression of the show. I'll just pretend the season four finale was the end of the show. Like I pretend the season seven finale of the X-Files was the end.

Sinfonia

gnfnrhead wrote: »

I hate comparing Dexter to Breaking Bad but you kind of have to. They are both focused on a guy who in reality is the villain, they air at the same time and are both in the final season. The quality difference is shocking. I thought maybe I wasn't enjoying Dexter as much due to watching it after Breaking Bad each week, but I held back and didn't watch Dexter until just now and I still don't care. I found myself asking why was I still watching it far too often. I've watched seven and a half seasons so feel obligated to watch the last few episodes without spoilers but I just don't care anymore and just want it to be over. Going to rewatch the first four seasons in a few months time so this isn't my lasting impression of the show. I'll just pretend the season four finale was the end of the show. Like I pretend the season seven finale of the X-Files was the end.

Also Breaking Bad started just after season 2 of Dexter. Third season drop in quality aside, for the first couple of years there, people would have happily spoken both names in the same breath as examples of top quality TV.

looking_around

where are you all watching the episodes? I won't be seeing this ep til Sunday A Sky box search doesn't bring up any monday showings o0

Nevermind, somehow I missed it, FOX HD, 10pm Monday.

SteelyDanJalapeno

On a related note,

Vogel's son = any/all characters played by Ryan Gosling

Vinz Mesrine

Remember when Dexter used to be unpredictable? I posted this last week

The more i think about last weeks episode, what about Cassie' boyfriend? Working together with his mother, Vogel.

A genuinely pathetic episode, a shambles, a disgrace. I keep trying to find a word that fits with this series but i cant find one. There wasnt one single redeeming feature about this episode, nothing at all. The final scene with Vogel and Daniel/Oliver was embarassingly bad. If this had happened in series 4/5 the show would have been cancelled without hesitation but as it stands we have to put up with another 3 episodes of this garbage until it is put out of its misery.

Ive seen people compare it to Breaking Bad and have done so myself but i dont feel thats fair anymore. Breaking Bad is an amazing piece of television but even if it didnt exist, Dexter would still be ****.

grames_bond

TiltedBrain wrote: »

On a related note,

Vogel's son = any/all characters played by Ryan Gosling

yup!!

Staplor

I had to check that next week wasn't the series finale - what the hell are they going to do in the next few episodes that they couldn't sort out next week, namely:

Deb re-joins the force
Ryan Gosling gets killed, his Mammy tries to save him, she gets killed.
Ghost Dad says that's it Dexter now you are free the end the killing cycle is over, as it's starting point, Vogel, is dead.
Dexter moves to Argentina.
Flash forward a few months, Hannah's up the Damien, Harrison is speaking Spanish in school, and Dexter is working as a fisherman/boat tours. Final shot is a smirk and a raised eyebrow. Is he really finished killing? We'll never know........ Just like the Sopranos.

End Series.

bluefinger

Truly awful series.

Tinley Juicy Jockey summed it up, especially the staring through the window piece which i lolled at.

The season four finale is something that freaks me out sometimes when i think about it now. Season eight will only freak me out by how bad it's become. Dexter also appears to have given up killing people- not much of a serial killer anymore.

Have been waiting for eight series to see the denouement but actually not that bothered now. Shame.

GorillaRising

Elway has to be the most pointless Dexter character ever so far!

Vinz Mesrine

Staplor wrote: »

I had to check that next week wasn't the series finale - what the hell are they going to do in the next few episodes that they couldn't sort out next week, namely:

Deb re-joins the force
Ryan Gosling gets killed, his Mammy tries to save him, she gets killed.
Ghost Dad says that's it Dexter now you are free the end the killing cycle is over, as it's starting point, Vogel, is dead.
Dexter moves to Argentina.
Flash forward a few months, Hannah's up the Damien, Harrison is speaking Spanish in school, and Dexter is working as a fisherman/boat tours. Final shot is a smirk and a raised eyebrow. Is he really finished killing? We'll never know........ Just like the Sopranos.

End Series.

To make it worse, its not even on next week. Its on a break until September 8th.

I called Deb getting the Sergeant job 2 weeks ago in place of the coloured extra who got it ahead of Quinn.
Gosling dies at the hands of Dexter, Vogel kills Hannah in return.
Dexter is about to kill Vogel, Matthews(Vogels husband) arrives to save her, Tells Dexter to either leave or be arrested.

He gets on the Slice of Life and heads off into the sunset with Harrison.

Thats how i see it playing out, leaving every viewer disappointed.

Tazium

Haven't watched this episode but thought from EP 8 that Quinn might be involved in the demise of Dex. This was close enough in previous seasons but seemingly all forgotten now.

syklops

Tazium wrote: »

Haven't watched this episode but thought from EP 8 that Quinn might be involved in the demise of Dex. This was close enough in previous seasons but seemingly all forgotten now.

A few seasons ago Quinn might have been involved, but his character has been dumbed down and now he is relegated to being torn over his feelings for Deb and how hot Jamie is.

syklops

Funny they decided to use the song "Make your own kind of music". The last time that was on TV it was in Lost. Another, once great TV show which severely disappointed in the final seasons.

FearDark

I'm 8 minutes into this and its just a conversation between Vogel and Dexter.

A ****ING boring one.

**** this show.

snausages

It's gotten to a stage now where I purposely read these threads for spoilers to know if it's worth soldiering on. I'll get to this episode eventually but I just can't muster the patience yet

the_monkey

Kirby wrote: »

Remember back in season 2 and 3 when we all postulated what the last season would look like? With the net closing in on Dexter?

Why the hell isn't that happening?

We are three episode from the end and not one single person is on to him. It's ridiculous. This feels like any other season.....not the last one. I'm quite disappointed. I like Hannah but she's not the problem. The writers have forgotten what this show was originally about. A serial killer on the edge of constantly getting caught.

I miss Doakes tbh. Even suspicious Quinn was good fun. His character become totally pointless once he stopped suspecting dexter. Nobody at Miami Metro even has a clue.

Bah.

Because it won't fúcking happen, the pussies are gonna have it ending with Dexter and Hannah FÜCKING McKay in Argentina.


Such an American view of Argentina (or any other foreign location), don't worry about learning the language, the whole country is just a nice beach where for $100 you can buy a nice house by the coast, and life on fresh air .

the_monkey

I think I'll start to watch this show in the background , with the sound off, while I do something important, like ironing .. or dishes ..

JohnK

the_monkey wrote: »

Such an American view of Argentina (or any other foreign location), don't worry about learning the language, the whole country is just a nice beach where for $100 you can buy a nice house by the coast, and life on fresh air .

To be fair, they did say Hannah had $500,000 in that suitcase and that sort of money should buy a nice enough house on the beach in Argentina.

Shane St.

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Watching this on a Monday before the latest breaking bad each week, the contrast of how a show can do it right and how a show can do it wrong.

Exactly this!

tvnutz

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Watching this on a Monday before the latest breaking bad each week, the contrast of how a show can do it right and how a show can do it wrong.

It shows just how far Dexter has fallen. Because the writing in Dexter used to be very good. The inner monologue and ghost dad are just such an insult to the audience. Treating everyone like they are absolute idiots.

This weeks episode of Breaking Bad is a great way to compare how the shows are written and how they treat the audience. One example in Dexter,and this has been used so much this season, Dexter's "dad" pointing out that Vogul's son slashed the tires and must have noticed. Well duh! Ye think? There are so many other types of this example through this season.

Now look at yesterdays Breaking Bad:

Jesse is waiting in the desert for Walt, he sees the tarantula walking near him. Clearly this is to remind us of the kid that Todd killed since he had a tarantula as well and this is one of the thigs that has hit Jesse hard. We are never told this out loud, Jesse doesn't have an inner monologue or turn to Walt and say "look at that spider, its the same one the kid had, his death is really hurting me". We just see the spider and Jesse's expression. It is all we need to know.

2nd example was the big revelation near the end. Jesse realise the pot is gone and Huell lifted it, he goes to get a smoke and it clicks of how the ricin cig had gone missing. No words are said, it is just the looks and the actions of the character and we get it. Now later on he beats a confession out of Saul but it was not the same as Dexter saying something in his head that is so bleedin obvious!

gnfnrhead

:pac:

OctavarIan

I read what someone claimed was the ending a few weeks back, dismissed it as a bad joke because it was so shockingly bad. But it's coming true. Don't get your hopes up for a satisfying resolution, it gets worse from here.

[edit] Fave part of this episode was Dexter standing completely still outside a busy café staring at someone through the window for nearly an hour, a few episodes after lecturing Zach on how important it is to be careful. :rolleyes:

Dexter to Zach: "The only way I've survived as long as I've had is by being careful."

*two weeks later*

syklops

That seems to be a recurring theme in Season 8. Dex says or does something one minute and then the polar opposite a few minutes later.

Like when Vogul asked what was Doakes like and Dex said "Always had a short fuse", and Vogul says as a Sociopathe he should be cold, and collected and Dex practically arches his fingers and goes "I see... interesting..", but 5 minutes later he is on the interstate having a tantrum at another motorist.

If there is any fore planning, it looks to me like they are going to tell Dex at the end of Season 8 that he isnt a psychpath at all. He has feelings but they are buried beneath the surface, that he no longer needs the code and that love will save him. This wishy-washy stuff is not the show I fell in love with 8 years ago.

the_monkey

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That facial recognition software ??? Where can I get that ?? :rolleyes::rolleyes:


Such tripe, the difference between time passing in this and Breaking Bad, unreal .... it's like a chore watching this , but then again it's actually amusing how bad it's become.

syklops

the_monkey wrote: »

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That facial recognition software ??? Where can I get that ?? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

I don't get the surprise about the software which aged the picture. You can get aging software in the Google Play store. Probably on the iStore as well.

They regularly release pictures of how Madeline McCann would look now.

I fcuking love the diner scene as it's so so hilariously bad. I "borrowed" another gif from reddit in honour of it:

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

my god, i stopped watching dexter after that season with his trainee blonde serial killer but i've been checking in on the episode threads from time to time just to keep up with what happens in the story (without subjecting myself to the horror of actually wateching it)

that .gif is unbelievable. it's something you'd see in a sketch show parody of a tv show.

pixelburp

For me, this season has been so calamitously dull and aimless, suddenly otherwise poor seasons like the reviled sixth don't seem so bad anymore. At least they had a drive and purpose, things were building up to a climax, an inevitable confrontation. Season 8 simply putters on with no direction.

snausages

I just can't believe how the Laguerta stuff seems to be completely in the past now. What was the point of that finale last season? Did it even matter? How can they redeem a character who's irredeemable?