2 earthquakes this morning just miles from the sellafield nuclear plant

thisonetaken

Earthquakes in the Irish sea are becoming more and more frequent, its just a matter of time before one hits the plant and we will be wiped out.

PucaMama

thisonetaken wrote: »

Earthquakes in the Irish sea are becoming more and more frequent, its just a matter of time before one hits the plant and we will be wiped out.

Is this true? Any links?

thisonetaken

PucaMama wrote: »

Is this true? Any links?

http://www.thejournal.ie/earthquake-irish-sea-2-1052903-Aug2013/

Boombastic

I have my iodine tablets at the ready. Only 3 years out of date

Frosty McSnowballs

thisonetaken wrote: »

Earthquakes in the Irish sea are becoming more and more frequent, its just a matter of time before one hits the plant and we will be wiped out.

Phew, for a minute there I though we were all going to be ok.

Sir Humphrey Appleby

thisonetaken wrote: »

Earthquakes in the Irish sea are becoming more and more frequent, its just a matter of time before one hits the plant and we will be wiped out.

Not really.

bumper234

thisonetaken wrote: »

Earthquakes in the Irish sea are becoming more and more frequent, its just a matter of time before one hits the plant and we will be wiped out.

Why would we all be "wiped out?"

Ted_YNWA

Should be organise a AH get together, so can all comfort each other for our final moments on this planet.

thisonetaken

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

Not really.

yes they are

PucaMama

PucaMama wrote: »

Is this true? Any links?

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=seism_index&rid=348404

http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/#

Sir Humphrey Appleby

thisonetaken wrote: »

yes they are

Nah, there have always been such minor quakes, nothing new about them at all.

theSHU

thisonetaken wrote: »

yes they are

I blame global-warming/cooling/climate-change/the-hole-in-the-ozone-layer...

thisonetaken

even since fracking began the frequency of quakes in that area have been rising rapidly

grizzly

Do we have time to freak out before we understand the facts?

Sir Humphrey Appleby

theSHU wrote: »

I blame global-warming/cooling/climate-change/the-hole-in-the-ozone-layer...

FFs ya fogot to blame the bankers ,travellers, ,and the golden friggin circle!

danniemcq

Date & Time  Latitude Longitude Depth Mag Region name
UTC degrees degrees km [+] [+]
2013-06-26   22:28:01.0 52.88 N   4.72 W   9 3  WALES, UNITED KINGDOM
2013-05-29   03:16:26.0 52.90 N   4.91 W   8 4  WALES, UNITED KINGDOM
2010-12-21   22:59:11.0 54.38 N   3.07 W   15 3.5  ENGLAND, UNITED KINGDOM
2009-10-06   05:05:55.0 51.77 N   4.07 W   12 2.5  BRISTOL CHANNEL REGION, U.K.
2009-04-28   10:22:08.5 54.13 N   2.91 W   15 3.7  ENGLAND, UNITED KINGDOM
2008-05-28   20:09:31.0 54.70 N   2.96 W   7 2  ENGLAND, UNITED KINGDOM
2007-11-30   22:05:43.0 52.87 N   3.28 W   12 2.9  WALES, UNITED KINGDOM
2005-02-14   18:44:00.1 53.32 N   3.83 W   10 3.8  UNITED KINGDOM



Not the first not the last. Seems to be one every year or so

Sir Humphrey Appleby

thisonetaken wrote: »

even since fracking began the frequency of quakes in that area have been rising rapidly

No they haven't.
Conspiracy Theories Forum===>

SEPT 23 1989

I hope we get an eleventy twelve on the rick shaw scale

Duggy747

Thread about minor earthquakes is really a thread about fracking.

bumper234

thisonetaken wrote: »

even since fracking began the frequency of quakes in that area have been rising rapidly

Oh here we go. Please show links where it states that there has been a rise in earthquakes in the UK since fracking started.

Knob Longman

thisonetaken wrote: »

even since fracking began the frequency of quakes in that area have been rising rapidly

True but that will be lost on people as their betters will back fracking.

Knob Longman

bumper234 wrote: »

Oh here we go. Please show links where it states that there has been a rise in earthquakes in Wales since fracking started.

Sellafield is in Wales now is it ?

OneArt

grizzly wrote: »

Do we have time to freak out before we understand the facts?

OF COURSE NOT!! We're all going to die and without having freaked out enough!!

Oh God HELP US!!!

bumper234

Knob Longman wrote: »

Sellafield is in Wales now is it ?

Apologies i meant to say UK no idea why i typed Wales

Elbaston

We need to get rid of Paddy, thats all there is to it old boy.
What we need is some kind of accident.

thisonetaken

OneArt wrote: »

OF COURSE NOT!! We're all going to die and without having freaked out enough!!

Oh God HELP US!!!

nah lads shure we'll all be grand, nuclear disasters only happen in other countries like Japan, nothing to worry about

bumper234

Op still has not explained why we would all be "wiped out" if sellafield got hit.

Also on the cause of the earthquakes

The Irish National Seismic Network said the quakes were most likely the result of glacial rebound – the process whereby stresses built up by the weight of glaciers from the last Ice Age are slowly released.

Links234

You know, I always hate when this fearmongering over sellafield comes up. Ireland has been made quite paranoid about nuclear power, and it's ridiculous. Instead, we rely on burning turf and other fossil fuels.

What Ireland should really do is get up of it's ass build a couple of thorium reactors.

danniemcq

thisonetaken wrote: »

even since fracking began the frequency of quakes in that area have been rising rapidly

Closest i can find to sellafield is in Lancashire, although a number of mag 1 or so earthquakes have been measured in the area there is 110 miles or so between there and sellafield. Can't really see there being a link there especially when you look at quakes in recent years in my above post

thisonetaken

danniemcq wrote: »

Closest i can find to sellafield is in Lancashire, although a number of mag 1 or so earthquakes have been measured in the area there is 110 miles or so between there and sellafield. Can't really see there being a link there especially when you look at quakes in recent years in my above post

the 2 this morning were about 30 miles away

theSHU

Links234 wrote: »

You know, I always hate when this fearmongering over sellafield comes up. Ireland has been made quite paranoid about nuclear power, and it's ridiculous. Instead, we rely on burning turf and other fossil fuels.

What Ireland should really do is get up of it's ass build a couple of thorium reactors.

No, fracking will allow us to generate energy in Ireland and provide cheap efficient power from gas. Nuclear power requires €billions of subsidies. Arm waving loonies moaning about natural occuring earthquakes is the problem.

thisonetaken

Links234 wrote: »

You know, I always hate when this fearmongering over sellafield comes up. Ireland has been made quite paranoid about nuclear power, and it's ridiculous. Instead, we rely on burning turf and other fossil fuels.

Have you learned nothing from chernobyl and fukishisma (which is much worse than they are letting on). Nuclear is just not safe, burying your head isn't going to change that.

LordSutch

Earthquakes!!!

Long ago, when I were a lad, these little things were called 'earth tremors' and the term "Earthquake" was used for the things they elsewhere on the planet, usually to the magnitude of 5,6, or 7 on the Richter scale, nowadays it seems everything (no matter how small) is an Earthquake :cool:

Links234

thisonetaken wrote: »

Have you learned nothing from chernobyl and fukishisma (which is much worse than they are letting on). Nuclear is just not safe, burying your head isn't going to change that.

There's hundreds of nuclear power plants in operation around the world, you can point to 2 disasters. I'd add 3-mile island as well. All of these were old reactors, modern reactors being much safer. Thorium reactors being a very different thing entirely, far safer and more efficient.

Secondly, do you know how many disasters there's been with oil pipelines and natural gas, etc the world over? 'cos there's a lot. A hell of a lot.

A couple of decent reactors would easily meet Ireland's energy needs, but no... can't be havin' progress

Knob Longman

thisonetaken wrote: »

Have you learned nothing from chernobyl and fukishisma (which is much worse than they are letting on). Nuclear is just not safe, burying your head isn't going to change that.

Thorium is the way the go,
A small underpopulated island like ours with little heavy industry should be attempting to use renewable's like wind and wave power, Nuclear is more suited for larger industrial countries that use far more power than we do..

EdCastle

Links234 wrote: »

You know, I always hate when this fearmongering over sellafield comes up. Ireland has been made quite paranoid about nuclear power, and it's ridiculous. Instead, we rely on burning turf and other fossil fuels.
.

Irish aren't paranoid about nuclear power, we are correct in assuming it's not safe because it's not. I lived in Korea when Fukishima blew up, panic would be an understatement from all the surrounding countries.

Fukishima is still out of control....that's the reality of what happens when things go badly wrong which could happen at any moment anywhere a reactor is located.

Funny that you mention a fossil fuel burning station because I haven't heard any mention of the same happening.

My name is URL

Links234 wrote: »

You know, I always hate when this fearmongering over sellafield comes up. Ireland has been made quite paranoid about nuclear power, and it's ridiculous. Instead, we rely on burning turf and other fossil fuels.

What Ireland should really do is get up of it's ass build a couple of thorium reactors.

Yeah.. like it's just as easy as deciding to do it. It'd take a decade just to agree on any proposal, and then several more to actually develop and build a suitable reactor.

Most other EU countries are moving away from nuclear due to dangers and long term costs.. and Irish people suddenly think it's time we caught up with the already dying curve.. ffs.

Oh, and for those who say 'Ah sure Fukushima wasn't that bad'.. that's because officials lied and continue to lie through their holes about the extent of the problem.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23779561

EdCastle

My name is URL wrote: »

and Irish people suddenly think it's time we caught up with the already dying curve.. ffs.

Some Irish people, the majority of Irish people are against the building of a nuclear power station in this county.

Where would it be built anyway?

They are great at shouting from the rooftops and the chest beating but given the choice even a pro campaigner wouldn't live next door to a nuclear power station.....and that says it all really!

Links234

My name is URL wrote: »

Most other EU countries are moving away from nuclear due to dangers and long term costs.. and Irish people suddenly think it's time we caught up with the already dying curve.. ffs.

Thorium reactor! >_< it's a different thing entirely and what is planned to be brought in after nuclear reactors are phased out

Sir Humphrey Appleby

thisonetaken wrote: »

Have you learned nothing from chernobyl and fukishisma (which is much worse than they are letting on). Nuclear is just not safe, burying your head isn't going to change that.

would it help if you poured iodine on the sand first:D:D:D

bumper234

Links234 wrote: »

Thorium reactor! >_< it's a different thing entirely and what is planned to be brought in after nuclear reactors are phased out

Did you not know? Thorium ends in ium therefore it means nucular (Homer Simpson voice needed for that one) ergo it's bad!

My name is URL

Links234 wrote: »

Thorium reactor! >_< it's a different thing entirely and what is planned to be brought in after nuclear reactors are phased out

Not according to MIT and host of other think-tanks. Thorium reactors are unlikely to penetrate the market any time soon or be used to replace existing reactors.

A 2011 MIT study concluded that, although there is little in the way of barriers to a thorium fuel cycle, with current or near term light-water reactor designs there is also little incentive for any significant market penetration to occur. As such they conclude there is little chance of thorium cycles replacing conventional uranium cycles in the current nuclear power market, despite the potential benefits

Guy:Incognito

EdCastle wrote: »

They are great at shouting from the rooftops and the chest beating but given the choice even a pro campaigner wouldn't live next door to a nuclear power station.....and that says it all really!

Would anyone choose to live beside a power station of any type given the choice? Or a landfill, or even a sports stadium or a large list of other things.

Merrion

A 2011 MIT study concluded that, although there is little in the way of barriers to a thorium fuel cycle, with current or near term light-water reactor designs there is also little incentive for any significant market penetration to occur. As such they conclude there is little chance of thorium cycles replacing conventional uranium cycles in the current nuclear power market, despite the potential benefits

Not got an opinion either way really but it is instructive to note how choosing which bit of a quote to make bold can really alter the actual quoted text.

P_1

So when can we expect to see Diazilla emerging from the Irish sea to lay waste to Howth?

That's the most logical disaster I can foresee from these devastating earthquakes

bumper234

P_1 wrote: »

So when can we expect to see Diazilla emerging from the Irish sea to lay waste to Howth?

That's the most logical disaster I can foresee from these devastating earthquakes

I was in Howth on Saturday. It looks like someone/thing beat him to it

Jonny7

I wanted to check this out in google

Immediately I am met with "major earthquake/tsunami being engineered for the UK"

glad to see 12th century style superstition and fairy stories making such a strong comeback with the internet

Rubeter

thisonetaken wrote: »

Earthquakes in the Irish sea are becoming more and more frequent, its just a matter of time before one hits the plant and we will be wiped out.

No they're not.
During the last ice age the weight of ice pushed the crust round here down a bit into the mantle, with the weight gone the crust is slowly rising back up, it's been going on for quite a while.

bumper234

Rubeter wrote: »

No they're not.
During the last ice age the weight of ice pushed the crust round here down a bit into the mantle, with the weight gone the crust is slowly rising back up, it's been going on for quite a while.

Oh you and your facts. How can they be blaming the fracking when people keep refuting these claims with facts!:eek:

Saadyst

An earthquake of unprecedented magnitude hits Fukushima and it seems all is going as planned in this sort of scenario... it is then followed by a massive tsunami that takes out entire swathes of land and towns that had large coastal barriers etc, kills tens of thousands of people... hundreds of thousands were made homeless..


Meanwhile, the problems with Fukushima has caused.... 0 deaths.

You put the same conditions on a gas/coal/oil fired plant or refinery, and the damage will be worse.


But sure nuclear plants are not safe :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Allyall

thisonetaken wrote: »

even since fracking began the frequency of quakes in that area have been rising rapidly

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-27/texas-earthquakes-linked-to-oil-extraction-by-fracking.html

Texas Earthquakes Linked to Oil Extraction by Fracking

A recent wave of small earthquakes in and around the Eagle Ford formation in Texas was probably the result of extracting oil and in some cases water used for hydraulic fracturing, according to a study.
Clusters of small-magnitude seismic events between November 2009 and September 2011 were “often associated with fluid extraction,” according to the study scheduled to appear this week in the online edition of the journal Earth and Planetary Science Letters. The study follows previous research that links earthquakes to the disposal of drilling wastewater by injecting it underground.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-chameides/injection-of-fracking-flu_b_3824868.html

Injection of Fracking Fluids Linked to Ohio Earthquakes
Youngstown Earthquakes

In 2011, from March to November, nine small earthquakes were reported in and around Youngstown, Ohio. That's more than one earthquake per month. All were of 2.7 magnitude (Mw) or less. Given that prior to 2011, no earthquakes centered in the area had been recorded, something unusual seemed to be going on. Some speculated that maybe the proximity of the quakes to a deep injection well -- a Class II well used to dispose of fracking waste water [pdf] (there are 144,000 [pdf] Class II wells in the United States) -- might be the culprit. After all, all nine quakes had occurred within a one-mile radius of the well [pdf] and injection wells in Texas and Arkansas had been linked to similar bouts of seismicity. (There's also that USGS study from last year that reported a significant uptick in the number of minor earthquakes in the United States in recent years.)

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/energy/article/Oil-production-likely-causing-Eagle-Ford-4763292.php