Requirement for teachers to register with Teaching Council

hurling1884

Sorry if this has been mentioned somewhere before but I haven't noticed it anywhere

Will the circular 0025/2013 result in the opening up of many jobs at second level when November comes or will anyone without a H.Dip/PGDE/PDE still carry out their positions in schools???

Thanks

Miss Lockhart

The requirement is to be registered, not to have a PDE. Those without a teaching qualification could register for the VEC sector until April 2013. Provided they keep paying their renewal fees they will remain registered.

I wouldn't expect this to have any effect on the jobs situation.

hurling1884

Thanks Miss Lockhart, but is it not essential to have a dip/PDE in order to register with the council?

Miss Lockhart

hurling1884 wrote: »

Thanks Miss Lockhart, but is it not essential to have a dip/PDE in order to register with the council?

It is now. But up until April this year you didn't need one to register for the VEC sector. People who rsgistered this way before April and who continue to pay their renewals will remain registered to work in th VEC. So they will fulfil the registration requirement and will still be paid.

Seanchai

Miss Lockhart wrote: »

The requirement is to be registered, not to have a PDE. Those without a teaching qualification could register for the VEC sector until April 2013. Provided they keep paying their renewal fees they will remain registered.

I wouldn't expect this to have any effect on the jobs situation.

Interesting. Why is the VEC sector still getting an opt-out from this requirement?

Miss Lockhart

Seanchai wrote: »

Interesting. Why is the VEC sector still getting an opt-out from this requirement?

I have no idea how or why it took so long for them to implement the requirement to have a teaching qualification to register for the VEC.

I'm not sure that they can retrospectively implement a requirement to have the dip on those already registered under the old system though. That would have far reaching consequences for all of us. In that case they could impose every new requirement on all registered teachers - the new 2-year dip requirement for example. Or they could suddenly decide your degree is no longer enough to qualify you in a subject.

rainbowtrout

Seanchai wrote: »

Interesting. Why is the VEC sector still getting an opt-out from this requirement?

More of a legacy thing than anything else I'd imagine. PDE was not required to work in a VEC school way back when, particularly when vocational schools focused on practical subjects such as metalwork, woodwork and you could have had someone teaching who was qualified in carpentry/engineering but didn't have the dip, prior to teacher training in those subject areas.

Also VEC covers a lot of areas not just mainstream secondary, so possibly had people working in those sectors who did not have the dip but were working in the education sector.

I'd imagine there would be few people getting contracts within the VEC system in the last 10 years without a dip given the number of graduates. I'd guess that most of those without a dip and working for the VEC are on small part time hours or working for them 10+ years.

I'd say it would be a massive can of worms to enforce a requirement on these people to get the PDE now.

petronius

The VEC did have an opt out to allow technical subjects to be taught - this should have been harmonised with the hdip/pde system long ago with a hdip part time for such vec sector teachers