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Illegal dumping

  • 21-08-2013 8:35pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭


    This really gets me, It's nothing better than knackery. It costs us all, as our taxes have to toward the clean up.

    I recently seen the mother of a girl my daughter goes to school with doing it in a shopping centre car park out of the boot of her brand new car in broad daylight and now again this evening, in my underground carpark.

    Some aul lad with a fairly newish car full of rubbish dumping it into the bins, he must have sat outside for a while waiting to get in as you need a fob to gain access.

    Money isn't that tight that people have to resort to this and from both times I seen it the people didn't seen short a few bob.

    What's everyone's opinion on this? Anyone else witness this and report the person at it? Or do you do it yourself and see nothing wrong with it?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Miserable thing to do, but better than those who leave it at the side of the road.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭Ilik Urgee


    I've often shat at the side of a road in times of drastic need.:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    joe stodge wrote: »
    This really gets me, It's nothing better than knackery. It costs us all, as our taxes have to toward the clean up.

    I recently seen the mother of a girl my daughter goes to school with doing it in a shopping centre car park out of the boot of her brand new car in broad daylight and now again this evening, in my underground carpark.

    Some aul lad with a fairly newish car full of rubbish dumping it into the bins, he must have sat outside for a while waiting to get in as you need a fob to gain access.

    Money isn't that tight that people have to resort to this and from both times I seen it the people didn't seen short a few bob.

    What's everyone's opinion on this? Anyone else witness this and report the person at it? Or do you do it yourself and see nothing wrong with it?


    I hope you have already reported them.

    I spotted a CV in one dumped bag in my old neighbourhood, and left it prominently in the bag whilst I had the council write down all the details. I'd say the lad got a suprise when the fine showed up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭joe stodge


    Miserable thing to do, but better than those who leave it at the side of the road.

    I forgot to ad that, do these ****èrs drive around with a boot full of mouldy bin bags waiting for the opportunity to get rid of it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Illegal dumping huh
    Listen bud, when you gotta go, you just gotta go! that's nature:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭joe stodge


    MadsL wrote: »
    I hope you have already reported her.

    Yes and that lad tonight, doubt anything will be done though.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,547 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    joe stodge wrote: »
    Yes and that lad tonight, doubt anything will be done though.

    At least you've done you're bit to counter the problem. People who refuse to report essentially give up the right to complain as they're complicit in allowing the behaviour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    joe stodge wrote: »
    I forgot to ad that, do these ****èrs drive around with a boot full of mouldy bin bags waiting for the opportunity to get rid of it?
    A lot of them seem to have their usual spots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Pai Mei


    There has been times when people in vans would drive around late at night and leave their black or green bins in rural areas outside hoses without a bin tag on it hoping it would be emptied so that they could pick it up the next day for free. Happened around my area a few times and it's pure knackery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,802 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Pai Mei wrote: »
    There has been times when people in vans would drive around late at night and leave their black or green bins in rural areas outside hoses without a bin tag on it hoping it would be emptied so that they could pick it up the next day for free. Happened around my area a few times and it's pure knackery.

    If they did that outside mine, they wouldnt have a bin to collect in the morning.


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  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,957 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    The apartment complex where I live has these little 'house' things that have the bins in them and there used to be a code to open the door to access it. After a while, some of the people in the estate next to the complex discovered that if you keep typing random 4 digit codes into the keypads, you can eventually hit on the master code that opens all the doors so they were all coming in and dumping their rubbish in our bins. Our management company has now had to put in these swipe/fob dealies so only residents can access the bins, but I reckon that means our fees will be going up again next year! :mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Well now you all know why DCC are replacing their public litter bins with new bins that have very small openings in them.

    This is to prevent people from ramming/dumping bags of household waste into them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    Pai Mei wrote: »
    There has been times when people in vans would drive around late at night and leave their black or green bins in rural areas outside hoses without a bin tag on it hoping it would be emptied so that they could pick it up the next day for free. Happened around my area a few times and it's pure knackery.


    If they done that in my estate the Kids would rob the bin and set it on fire, so I hope they try

    21/25



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I was chained to a fence once and had to take a dump.
    Or someone else did. I can't remember.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭joe stodge


    Toots* wrote: »
    The apartment complex where I live has these little 'house' things that have the bins in them and there used to be a code to open the door to access it. After a while, some of the people in the estate next to the complex discovered that if you keep typing random 4 digit codes into the keypads, you can eventually hit on the master code that opens all the doors so they were all coming in and dumping their rubbish in our bins. Our management company has now had to put in these swipe/fob dealies so only residents can access the bins, but I reckon that means our fees will be going up again next year! :mad:

    Once or twice when they haven't been able to get into the carpark to access the bin stores, they just fück it all over the road beside the gates.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Terry wrote: »
    I was chained to a fence once and had to take a dump.
    Or someone else did. I can't remember.

    Someone else was chained to a fence and you took a dump beside them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭joe stodge


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Well now you all know why DCC are replacing their public litter bins with new bins that have very small openings in them.

    This is to prevent people from ramming/dumping bags of household waste into them.

    Sure they just put them around the base of them if they can't fit them in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Can we not smear them with jam and leave them out for the wasps.

    Better than a fine I reckon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles-old


    In The apartment complex I just moved from, people would constantly be coming in from the area to use our bins.

    There's a mouldy Christmas tree there since January :(

    I reported a guy in The field opposite me a few months back. He parked his car, hopped the gate with 2 black sacks and set them on fire in The field. He left 30 minutes later, smoke everywhere and the Gardaì never showed up!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    I took a walk by the river here today. I was about a mile away from the town and in an area where it was impossible to drive a car. I looked down and saw a bag of empty glass jars. It looked like someone collected a load of Uncle Bens or Dolmio jars, walked to the middle of nowhere and dumped them. :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    I took a walk by the river here today. I was about a mile away from the town and in an area where it was impossible to drive a car. I looked down and saw a bag of empty glass jars. It looked like someone collected a load of Uncle Bens or Dolmio jars, walked to the middle of nowhere and dumped them. :confused:

    Would it not have been easier to put them in the bottle bins:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Tazio


    Tuesdays used to be our 'bin day' in the old days.

    Just myself and my girlfriend living the house at the time... so the bin would be only quarter full.. (now we're married with kids.. .and it's SERIOUSLY full... different thread)...

    Anyway, came home one morning early from work to find our bins overflowing... some neighbour(s) would fill our bin when we went to work!

    No real harm done etc ...but just a bit cheeky...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 325 ✭✭Love2u


    joe stodge wrote: »
    This really gets me, It's nothing better than knackery. It costs us all, as our taxes have to toward the clean up.

    I recently seen the mother of a girl my daughter goes to school with doing it in a shopping centre car park out of the boot of her brand new car in broad daylight and now again this evening, in my underground carpark.

    Some aul lad with a fairly newish car full of rubbish dumping it into the bins, he must have sat outside for a while waiting to get in as you need a fob to gain access.

    Money isn't that tight that people have to resort to this and from both times I seen it the people didn't seen short a few bob.

    What's everyone's opinion on this? Anyone else witness this and report the person at it? Or do you do it yourself and see nothing wrong with it?

    You said "brand new car", that's your answer! They sacrafice paying for the garbage fees so they can "pretend" they can afford a brand new car in this economy. The jokes on them! Sad way to live I reckon.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    joe stodge wrote: »
    I recently seen the mother of a girl my daughter goes to school with doing it in a shopping centre car park out of the boot of her brand new car in broad daylight and now again this evening, in my underground carpark.

    Now there's a first world problem if ever I saw one.

    Lock the side gate quick OP. Won't somebody please think of the tennis court :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Am I the only one who sees things differently?

    • Throwing things on the ground / fly tipping etc ... is illegal, wrong and a scummy thing to do.
    • But throwing stuff in public bins, albeit large amounts and while still illegal is not a scummy thing to do.
    Obviously you could say "well put it in your own bin!" - which ok. But at the end of the day it's not the same as tossing something on the side of the road. It's still going in a bin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles-old


    Lapin wrote: »
    Now there's a first world problem if ever I saw one.

    Lock the side gate quick OP. Won't somebody please think of the tennis court :eek:

    Underground carpark in an apartment block I assume...hardly posh!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭joe stodge


    Tennis court? I haven't even space for a poxy ping pong table.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    I refuse to pay to dump rubbish. I can understand paying for the collection service but surely this is one of the few things a council can still be expected to do from the rates bill.

    There should be a free council site where you can bring rubbish or you can pay a service to take it for you.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    I refuse to pay to dump rubbish. I can understand paying for the collection service but surely this is one of the few things a council can still be expected to do from the rates bill.

    There should be a free council site where you can bring rubbish or you can pay a service to take it for you.


    Or have the council take back bin collection service as part of the Property Tax.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    My cousin works in what was the refuse department of DCC. He gave me a rather shocking alternative take on this. All his colleagues were bought off with reasonable redundancies(though now are redundant, and try finding a job if all you have on your CV is 'binman', effectively).
    He pointed out that its not a question of fly tipping costing money. The lads who work in that department are getting paid either way. They arent getting a bonus for each bag picked up illegally dumped. And in fact you're keeping people in a job by this continuing to happen.
    This is in no way an advocation of the act, just want to show a different side of it.
    It is unfair and disgusting behaviour but what are people to do? I've often not had the money to pay for bin tags and have had to wait and stockpile rubbish (crushing folding tearing rubbish up to get as much in a bag as possible) before I got cash to get some tags.

    If they made it affordable(it's way too expensive lets be fair)
    this wouldn't happen to the degree that it is. I think so anyways.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    A guy keeps doing this up the road from me. He dumps at the green area beside the lamppost. Doesn't leave here. DCC apparently caught him but they said its hard to secure a conviction against these dumpers.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Underground carpark in an apartment block I assume...hardly posh!

    Well why didn't the illegal dumpers just chuck their shít into his outdoor swimming pool then ?

    Hey?





    Hey ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    They still come at you tho.
    I had some recycle bags rejected and recieved a fine but fought it cos the collectors( f*cking p*xy bast*rding greyhound) left the bags about a hundred yards down the street, therefore I'd no way of knowing of they were mine or not. Appealed and won but warned by DCC it wouldn't be let go next time.
    It would cost them more to chase up a dumper in court than it would to just pay people to collect rubbish as with the old system. They've realised this too late and privatised it.
    Shortsighted decision? Wouldn't be like them at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    I live bye a beach people always dump there it fvcking does my head in :/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Love2u wrote: »
    You said "brand new car", that's your answer! They sacrafice paying for the garbage fees so they can "pretend" they can afford a brand new car in this economy. The jokes on them! Sad way to live I reckon.

    They still have a brand new car to show for themselves though. I wouldnt support dumping rubbish around the place but still you cant blame people for trying to avoid the 'money traps' society sets for them

    In the past few decades people have been getting used to paying to have their rubbish collected but that rubbish is useful to someone and can be sold on. I see illegal dumping as an inevitable consequence of making people pay to get rid of stuff. If recycling companies and councils paid people for their rubbish the problem would disappear fairly fast


    I see people here in dublin paying to 'recycle' timber. To me timber is free fuel, yet you'd have to pay to get rid of it here


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    They still have a brand new car to show for themselves though. I wouldnt support dumping rubbish around the place but still you cant blame people for trying to avoid the 'money traps' society sets for them

    In the past few decades people have been getting used to paying to have their rubbish collected but that rubbish is useful to someone and can be sold on. I see illegal dumping as an inevitable consequence of making people pay to get rid of stuff. If recycling companies and councils paid people for their rubbish the problem would disappear fairly fast


    I see people here in dublin paying to 'recycle' timber. To me timber is free fuel, yet you'd have to pay to get rid of it here

    Exactly. It's a double ended profit for greyhound et al. They profit by charging for collection and profit by selling it on. Pure insanity expecting people to lie down for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭Means Of Escape


    I took a walk by the river here today. I was about a mile away from the town and in an area where it was impossible to drive a car. I looked down and saw a bag of empty glass jars. It looked like someone collected a load of Uncle Bens or Dolmio jars, walked to the middle of nowhere and dumped them. :confused:

    A computer greeted me. No sign of the keyboard though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭Surveyor11


    Fly tipping is out if control here. I cycle a lot and its embarrassing to see the amount of black bags dumped at the side of the road. What amazes me is the stuff you'll find on remote places, like the UPC box sitting forlornly in the Dublin mountains near glenree. Or a mannequin leg I spotted on a cycle to Galway last year. But it seems to be the norm here to leave cans, bottles and house hold rubbish for others to pick up. It's an Irish thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭Means Of Escape


    Surveyor11 wrote: »
    Fly tipping is out if control here. I cycle a lot and its embarrassing to see the amount of black bags dumped at the side of the road. What amazes me is the stuff you'll find on remote places, like the UPC box sitting forlornly in the Dublin mountains near glenree. Or a mannequin leg I spotted on a cycle to Galway last year. But it seems to be the norm here to leave cans, bottles and house hold rubbish for others to pick up. It's an Irish thing.

    The filth of the countryside is truly laid bare when motorway hedges and verges are cut annually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭problemchimp


    When people go to the bottle bank and leave their empty cardboard box on the ground beside the bottle bank (neatly folded bags also), this is still dumping. It gets on my wick!!
    Off topic, but maybe prisoners locked up for non violent offences could be made clean up the shiit or anybody convicted of dumping should be humiliated and sent out along the country roads with a bin bag, a pair of gloves and a "I'm a filthy cuunt" t-shirt on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    When people go to the bottle bank and leave their empty cardboard box on the ground beside the bottle bank (neatly folded bags also), this is still dumping. It gets on my wick!!
    Off topic, but maybe prisoners locked up for non violent offences could be made clean up the shiit or anybody convicted of dumping should be humiliated and sent out along the country roads with a bin bag, a pair of gloves and a "I'm a filthy cuunt" t-shirt on.

    I know an idiot who left a cracked plate on top of a bottle bank because it wouldn't fit in the bin , got caught and was fined 150 euro's and even gave thought to going to court and arguing her point till a Garda friend suggested paying the fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭problemchimp


    That's exactly it, people think leaving stuff "beside" a bin or bottle bank is ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    I live in an apartment/house complex. Bins are provided for waste and recycling. Why the fcuk I keep seeing broken down beds and all other sorts of crap in either bin has me dumbfounded.

    Also saw a couple of lads come in and use our bins. Knew the code to get in and everything so someone gave it to them Big feckers so wasn't going to say anything but still cheeky!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭joe stodge


    petes wrote: »
    I live in an apartment/house complex. Bins are provided for waste and recycling. Why the fcuk I keep seeing broken down beds and all other sorts of crap in either bin has me dumbfounded.

    Also saw a couple of lads come in and use our bins. Knew the code to get in and everything so someone gave it to them Big feckers so wasn't going to say anything but still cheeky!

    Yeah the undergound car park in my place is full of bed frames, old tv's and couches as well. The caretaker only had a huge skip out about a month ago to clean it all out but there's more down there again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭joe stodge


    And again, I seen some prick dumping bed frames and mattresses again over the weekend. Took his reg and what not gave the info to the management company.


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