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How will E-Fibre work

  • 21-08-2013 10:51am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭


    Just posted this in the Broadband thread, didn't realise there was an Eircom forum, maybe you guys can answer:

    From my understanding of E-Fibre, they are laying out fibre cables to the exchange boxes themselves, but the cables going from the exchange to peoples homes will still be the old copper cables that are there god knows how many years.


    Does anyone have any answers/ideas on how you will be able to get "Speeds up to 75mb" when it is still a copper cable going from the exchange to your house?

    It's been baffling me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭eircom: Mark


    Iano_128 wrote: »
    Just posted this in the Broadband thread, didn't realise there was an Eircom forum, maybe you guys can answer:

    From my understanding of E-Fibre, they are laying out fibre cables to the exchange boxes themselves, but the cables going from the exchange to peoples homes will still be the old copper cables that are there god knows how many years.


    Does anyone have any answers/ideas on how you will be able to get "Speeds up to 75mb" when it is still a copper cable going from the exchange to your house?

    It's been baffling me.
    Hi Iano_128

    That is correct, the efibre cables are laid from the exchange to cabinet. The existing copper network / lines are remain as is to connect the service from the cabinet to the home.

    Mark


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Iano_128


    Iano_128 wrote: »
    Just posted this in the Broadband thread, didn't realise there was an Eircom forum, maybe you guys can answer:

    From my understanding of E-Fibre, they are laying out fibre cables to the exchange boxes themselves, but the cables going from the exchange to peoples homes will still be the old copper cables that are there god knows how many years.


    Does anyone have any answers/ideas on how you will be able to get "Speeds up to 75mb" when it is still a copper cable going from the exchange to your house?

    It's been baffling me.
    Hi Iano_128

    That is correct, the efibre cables are laid from the exchange to cabinet. The existing copper network / lines are remain as is to connect the service from the cabinet to the home.

    Mark

    That part I know, my question is, if the copper cables remain then how will we get speeds of up to 75mb when I highly doubt the copper cables can handle even close to that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭eircom: Mark


    Iano_128 wrote: »
    Iano_128 wrote: »
    Just posted this in the Broadband thread, didn't realise there was an Eircom forum, maybe you guys can answer:

    From my understanding of E-Fibre, they are laying out fibre cables to the exchange boxes themselves, but the cables going from the exchange to peoples homes will still be the old copper cables that are there god knows how many years.


    Does anyone have any answers/ideas on how you will be able to get "Speeds up to 75mb" when it is still a copper cable going from the exchange to your house?

    It's been baffling me.
    Hi Iano_128

    That is correct, the efibre cables are laid from the exchange to cabinet. The existing copper network / lines are remain as is to connect the service from the cabinet to the home.

    Mark

    That part I know, my question is, if the copper cables remain then how will we get speeds of up to 75mb when I highly doubt the copper cables can handle even close to that.

    Hi Iano_128

    When an address is connected to the efibre network or cabinet. We can run a line test to confirm the speed capability. efibre is still subject to distance factors which is why the efibre packages are classed as "up to".

    Mark


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Iano_128


    So, does that mean that it is possible that when e-fibre is available in my area (end of Sept according to the Eircom site) that I may still only be able to achieve maximum speeds of 5mb, which is currently the case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭eircom: Mark


    Iano_128 wrote: »
    So, does that mean that it is possible that when e-fibre is available in my area (end of Sept according to the Eircom site) that I may still only be able to achieve maximum speeds of 5mb, which is currently the case.
    Hi Iano_128

    The minimum download speed for efibre is 20MB download and 5MB upload as far as we have been made aware.

    Mark


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Iano_128


    Thanks Mark :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭the perfect ten


    Iano_128 wrote: »
    Thanks Mark :)
    Yes, that is all very well but does anyone know what is the theoretical maximum speed that a twisted pair of copper wires can support between an exchange and a domestic dwelling?  Let's assume a distance of 2km between the exchange and the dwelling, as that will also play a role in determining the maximum speed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Iano_128


    Iano_128 wrote: »
    Thanks Mark :)
    Yes, that is all very well but does anyone know what is the theoretical maximum speed that a twisted pair of copper wires can support between an exchange and a domestic dwelling?  Let's assume a distance of 2km between the exchange and the dwelling, as that will also play a role in determining the maximum speed.
    Well he's said that the minimum it can get is 20Mbps, so it's at least that,, which compared to what someone 2km from an exchange is getting now that's a massive increase. I'm 350m from my exchange and get between 3-5 Mbps, so a 15-17Mbps increase in speed is going to make a huge difference.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭eircom: Mark


    Iano_128 wrote: »
    Thanks Mark :)


    No problem Iano_128


    Mark


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭eircom: Mark


    Iano_128 wrote: »
    Thanks Mark :)
    Yes, that is all very well but does anyone know what is the theoretical maximum speed that a twisted pair of copper wires can support between an exchange and a domestic dwelling?  Let's assume a distance of 2km between the exchange and the dwelling, as that will also play a role in determining the maximum speed.


    Hi the perfect ten

    There are so many factors involved. Keep in mind that the telephone lines are not laid in direct line of sight from an exchange to an address so the distance the broadband speed has to travel can be further than you may think.

    I would need to test the line to give a more accurate indication or answer to your question.

    Thanks, Mark


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Iano_128


    Hi the perfect ten

    There are so many factors involved. Keep in mind that the telephone lines are not laid in direct line of sight from an exchange to an address so the distance the broadband speed has to travel can be further than you may think.

    I would need to test the line to give a more accurate indication or answer to your question.

    Thanks, Mark

    Can Eircom tell approximately how far someone is from the exchange?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭eircom: Mark


    Iano_128 wrote: »
    Hi the perfect ten

    There are so many factors involved. Keep in mind that the telephone lines are not laid in direct line of sight from an exchange to an address so the distance the broadband speed has to travel can be further than you may think.

    I would need to test the line to give a more accurate indication or answer to your question.

    Thanks, Mark

    Can Eircom tell approximately how far someone is from the exchange?
    Hi Iano_128

    We will check specific lines and discuss the situation with each individual customer as the broadband service can be subject to individual line factors.

    General information may not be accurate to a number of customers within that area.


    If you want to PM me with a specific question or query I can look into it. Again I can not give any more information regarding efibre speeds until we can test your line directly.

    Thanks, Mark 


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Sean54


    Iano_128 wrote: »
    Iano_128 wrote: »
    Just posted this in the Broadband thread, didn't realise there was an Eircom forum, maybe you guys can answer:

    From my understanding of E-Fibre, they are laying out fibre cables to the exchange boxes themselves, but the cables going from the exchange to peoples homes will still be the old copper cables that are there god knows how many years.


    Does anyone have any answers/ideas on how you will be able to get "Speeds up to 75mb" when it is still a copper cable going from the exchange to your house?

    It's been baffling me.
    Hi Iano_128

    That is correct, the efibre cables are laid from the exchange to cabinet. The existing copper network / lines are remain as is to connect the service from the cabinet to the home.

    Mark

    That part I know, my question is, if the copper cables remain then how will we get speeds of up to 75mb when I highly doubt the copper cables can handle even close to that.
    Hi Copper cables can attain speeds of 100Mb or more over short distances. The cooper loop to your house is now only from the cabinet (Typically a couple of [font=Verdana, sans-serif]hundred[/font] metres) and not the Eircom Exchange. I have the efibre at home and  am getting download speed of 70mb.


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