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do you have to give the ball back

  • 20-08-2013 2:10pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭


    an age old question i am sure !!
    my friend is visiting me for tea, a knock on the door and a young boy from the other side of the road asks for his friends football back that has been kicked into my friends back garden . She has only asked that boy about an hour ago with the ball to stay away from our front gardens as he was kicking the ball about and just knew he might do damage.

    we are chatting and having tea so are in no rush for for her to go home.

    does she have to give back the ball ???

    we here talking about it and we think no.
    so boards friends what would you do ???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭MonstaMash


    Burst the fooker...the ball, not the kid :D;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    No, probably not.
    But if you deny a child sports equipment, you lose the right to shout at your kids for not going outside more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Mocha Joe


    Ring Joe Duffy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Give it back, Crosspatch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Tell her not to be such a bitch and give the kid his ball back ffs:mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    AmberAmber wrote: »
    an age old question i am sure !!
    my friend is visiting me for tea, a knock on the door and a young boy from the other side of the road asks for his friends football back that has been kicked into my friends back garden . She has only asked that boy about an hour ago with the ball to stay away from our front gardens as he was kicking the ball about and just knew he might do damage.

    we are chatting and having tea so are in no rush for for her to go home.

    does she have to give back the ball ???

    we here talking about it and we think no.
    so boards friends what would you do ???

    The ball goes into the garden ONCE in an hour and she is complaining? Give the child his ball back and don't be such a grump.:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    You don't have to give it back but we'd probably have put somebody's window in if they stole our ball when we were kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    AmberAmber wrote: »
    so boards friends what would you do ???
    You ain't no friend of mine. Gimme back my ball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭pauliebdub


    I'd give the ball back the first time and make it clear that the ball is not to come anywhere near your property. After that i wouldnt answer the door.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    When I was a nipper we had to climb over an eight foot wall in a garden, grab the ball, and kick it out into the street before she came galloping out.
    Please note: always kick the ball out. Do not hold on to it. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    Our rule of thumb as kids was number of balls not give back time x equals number of eggs at Halloween

    So whilst you don't have to give the ball back I suggest you do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭AmberAmber


    this is not the first time and there is a constant issue ! and we just think now the "ball is in our court" !!!

    there have been some troubles in the area with a while .
    we thought we might have has a visit form a mom or dad by now to be honest !!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    Neighbours, everybody needs good neighbours.


    Were you ever young OP? There aren't enough kids playing outdoors these days without you and your friend putting the mocklers on these youngsters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    I would think not, if the kid is annoying her by doing it no..Tis her property so sod it she did warn him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Well it's like this. You give the ball back with a smile, and you are the sound person on the road.
    You don't give the ball back, or throw a strop, you're the dick on the road.

    Now, fast-forward a few years when that kid becomes an awkward disgruntled bored trouble maker... All of a sudden you're their target. Your call.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 166 ✭✭Bananatop


    bumper234 wrote: »
    The ball goes into the garden ONCE in an hour and she is complaining? Give the child his ball back and don't be such a grump.:mad:

    She's visiting her friend, I think the child has a cheek to be knocking on someone else's door. He's not only disturbing the garden owner, but the garden owner's friend too!

    Edit : Tell him to sod off and let you have your tea and chat in peace. He can wait for his ball. Just because his parents give him everything he wants, doesn't mean everyone else in the neighbourhood has to do the same.

    I remember when this was all playstations :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    This thread is balls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Admit it, she smells of urine, has a beard and keeps a few cats doesn't she?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    One way to get the kid to move on if to bring out the ball and play soccer with him in the street.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    AmberAmber wrote: »
    this is not the first time and there is a constant issue ! and we just think now the "ball is in our court" !!!

    there have been some troubles in the area with a while .
    we thought we might have has a visit form a mom or dad by now to be honest !!!
    What troubles? Are they ball related?

    It seems sad that two adults are debating the merits of not giving a child back his ball. Did you do everything you were told as a child? I doubt the kids are doing it deliberately.

    If you don't give it back they might be tempted to put something more unsavoury in your yards.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    I think I need a cup of tea and a few biccies before I decide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    Bananatop wrote: »
    She's visiting her friend, I think the child has a cheek to be knocking on someone else's door. He's not only disturbing the garden owner, but the garden owner's friend too!

    I remember when this was all playstations :(

    Bloody lazy nippers. They should be hopping the fence to get it themselves!

    If you do tell them to get lost, expect a few nick-nacks at your door and maybe a few eggs on your wall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    AmberAmber wrote: »
    this is not the first time and there is a constant issue ! and we just think now the "ball is in our court" !!!

    there have been some troubles in the area with a while .
    we thought we might have has a visit form a mom or dad by now to be honest !!!

    I've thought about this some more and, in hindsight, I don't see any other option you have other than going down the legal route. Given that neither a mom or dad has made an appearance, the kid is obviously being neglected. Better the kid go in to a care home now rather than leave them to a life of urban crime


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭Ilik Urgee


    Get him to clean the pool while he's at it-that'll learn him not to kick his balls in your back-gate again.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 166 ✭✭Bananatop


    oldyouth wrote: »
    Better the kid go in to a care home now rather than leave them to a life of urban crime

    Too late, the cycle has already started according to post 16.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    There was a person who would always keep our ball if it went out his back and still to this day I knick knack his house every night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Elbaston


    Knowingly denying someone access to their property without legal reason is theft.

    I move for a bad court thingy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    AmberAmber wrote: »
    this is not the first time and there is a constant issue ! and we just think now the "ball is in our court" !!!

    there have been some troubles in the area with a while .
    we thought we might have has a visit form a mom or dad by now to be honest !!!

    Kids kicking balls around and knocking on doors to get them back out of gardens, huh? And in summertime and all? Whatever next?

    They'll be out running around or cycling up and down next. It'll escalate quickly after that, within months you and your put-upon neighbours will have kids speaking loudly, jumping and drinking cans of heroin.

    (Give the ball back and tell them to be more careful in future, ffs)


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Does your friend keep a lot of cats?


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  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kids kicking balls around and knocking on doors to get them back out of gardens, huh? And in summertime and all? Whatever next?

    It's anarchy out there so it is.

    Give them back the ball OP, they're kids out playing just like you used to.

    And you'll be in for a world of hurt if you don't ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Does your friend keep a lot of cats?

    If she doesn't give the cats back there's no hope for the ball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Kick it into another garden, let them deal with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Give the ball back. The kids are playing football, and it happens sometimes. No need to make a fuss over such a minor thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,669 ✭✭✭who_me


    If the boy is an innocent young 'un who's a little careless - as we all were - then give him back the ball.

    If he's a cheeky little gurrier - like we all really were - then punt the ball as high and far into the nearest bunch of nettles you can find. Let nature sort it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,416 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    AmberAmber wrote: »
    this is not the first time and there is a constant issue ! and we just think now the "ball is in our court" !!!

    there have been some troubles in the area with a while .
    we thought we might have has a visit form a mom or dad by now to be honest !!!

    This is how things started in Baltimore...kids kicking footballs over walls and then all of a sudden there's a massive crack epidemic. Get out now while you can.


    Either that or give the kids their ball back, you miserable sod!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Just make sure she isn't secretly running a Burlesque house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭fartman


    i remember years ago my mother used to keep all the balls that came in to our garden and when they came looking for there ball my mam would say yes you can have it back!! can you hold on a sec and i get it for you..she went to the press and got the bread knife and ball, stuck the knife into the ball in front of the child and say here you go sweet heart lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    I agree with Bananatop - give him the ball back, but on your schedule, not his. Adults are not there to jump at the whim of every strange child. Don't be rude about it, the kid came and (hopefully) asked nicely. Just say "I'll put it out on the gate when I'm finished here, but I'm going to be here for a quite a while". Now, if they'd kicked his life-saving medicine into the garden, then that would be a case for dashing straight home to retrieve it, but they'll live without a ball until you're finished your tea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,416 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    fartman wrote: »
    i remember years ago my mother used to keep all the balls that came in to our garden and when they came looking for there ball my mam would say yes you can have it back!! can you hold on a sec and i get it for you..she went to the press and got the bread knife and ball, stuck the knife into the ball in front of the child and say here you go sweet heart lol

    Your mother sounds like what is coloquially known as a geebag


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    fartman wrote: »
    i remember years ago my mother used to keep all the balls that came in to our garden and when they came looking for there ball my mam would say yes you can have it back!! can you hold on a sec and i get it for you..she went to the press and got the bread knife and ball, stuck the knife into the ball in front of the child and say here you go sweet heart lol

    She sounds like a delightful human being


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30,731 ✭✭✭✭princess-lala


    fartman wrote: »
    i remember years ago my mother used to keep all the balls that came in to our garden and when they came looking for there ball my mam would say yes you can have it back!! can you hold on a sec and i get it for you..she went to the press and got the bread knife and ball, stuck the knife into the ball in front of the child and say here you go sweet heart lol

    What a bitchy thing to do!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    fartman wrote: »
    i remember years ago my mother used to keep all the balls that came in to our garden and when they came looking for there ball my mam would say yes you can have it back!! can you hold on a sec and i get it for you..she went to the press and got the bread knife and ball, stuck the knife into the ball in front of the child and say here you go sweet heart lol

    What a wonderful woman. Did she also kill cats in her spare time?


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    fartman wrote: »
    i remember years ago my mother used to keep all the balls that came in to our garden and when they came looking for there ball my mam would say yes you can have it back!! can you hold on a sec and i get it for you..she went to the press and got the bread knife and ball, stuck the knife into the ball in front of the child and say here you go sweet heart lol

    I have a feeling you're going to re-think the wisdom of posting that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    fartman wrote: »
    i remember years ago my mother used to keep all the balls that came in to our garden and when they came looking for there ball my mam would say yes you can have it back!! can you hold on a sec and i get it for you..she went to the press and got the bread knife and ball, stuck the knife into the ball in front of the child and say here you go sweet heart lol
    In my squeaky child voice. "Oh, It's on now, It's on."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Ive found neighbours that keep footballs are the type that get ZERO assistance when they need any. They are whats known in the community as soulless ghouls.

    Best of luck finding friends for your kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭DavyD_83


    If you don't give the ball back, the kids are just going to try and climb in and get it.
    That's what real kids would do anyway, not sure about the little pampered feckers these days, they might send their ua pair round to ask.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭Ilik Urgee


    fartman wrote: »
    i remember years ago my mother used to keep all the balls that came in to our garden and when they came looking for there ball my mam would say yes you can have it back!! can you hold on a sec and i get it for you..she went to the press and got the bread knife and ball, stuck the knife into the ball in front of the child and say here you go sweet heart lol

    No repercussions ever?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    Ilik Urgee wrote: »
    No repercussions ever?

    We had a neighbour who did that with a fork.

    Once.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭BrianBoru00


    Why the f**k do people like this live in an estate. If you don't want kids occasionally kicking the ball into your garden - buy a house in the middle of a field, or an apartment in a retirement village.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭Ilik Urgee


    hardCopy wrote: »
    We had a neighbour who did that with a fork.

    Once.
    I could imagine.


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