Fox Italia

radiowaves

Reading reports that they carried the English language feed for last night's live PL match.

Can anybody here confirm?

They didn't for any other live match over the weekend.

They are broadcasting Chelsea v Villa tomorrow.

IrishHomer

radiowaves wrote: »

Reading reports that they carried the English language feed for last night's live PL match.

Can anybody here confirm?

They didn't for any other live match over the weekend.

They are broadcasting Chelsea v Villa tomorrow.

Sorry cant answer your question but I noticed the England match last week was in English with Martin Tyler

Tom Hanks

radiowaves wrote: »

Reading reports that they carried the English language feed for last night's live PL match.

Can anybody here confirm?

They didn't for any other live match over the weekend.

They are broadcasting Chelsea v Villa tomorrow.

I can check tonight if you can't yourself & report back here tonight?

radiowaves

Tom Hanks wrote: »

I can check tonight if you can't yourself & report back here tonight?

Thanks for that

I should be in a position to check it too.

I've now read in a few places that they definitely had it on Monday.

They didn't on any match at the weekend though so it must've been a mistake.

Tonight will be interesting but I doubt it'll have it.

Tom Hanks

radiowaves wrote: »

Thanks for that

I should be in a position to check it too.

I've now read in a few places that they definitely had it on Monday.

They didn't on any match at the weekend though so it must've been a mistake.

Tonight will be interesting but I doubt it'll have it.

It's an error most definitely, Digital + too have done it on rare occasions last season for Live EPL.

Fingers crossed for tonight pal

lertsnim

Digital+ still offering stadium sound only this season?

Tom Hanks

lertsnim wrote: »

Digital+ still offering stadium sound only this season?

Haven't watched Digital + in ages..... I shall have a nose tonight & get back to you.

radiowaves

Tom Hanks wrote: »

Haven't watched Digital + in ages..... I shall have a nose tonight & get back to you.

Yes, they do. Excellent for when taking an English audio feed from elsewhere.

EDIT: Sky Calcio & Sky Sport Germany are also stadium noise only on the Arsenal match right now.

Bad news on the Sky Italia front - it was an accident, as we feared. Italian only tonight.

radiowaves

Tom Hanks wrote: »

Digital + too have done it on rare occasions last season for Live EPL.

Including having the English feed up until the start of the match - or even as far as a couple of minutes in - before the mistake was rectified

Tom Hanks

Digital + tonight with the crowd audio option, as said above - handy if you get a feed for BBC 5 Live & put it through RadioDelay.

Picture on Sky Italia though is so crisp.

radiowaves

Tom Hanks wrote: »

Picture on Sky Italia though is so crisp.

Isn't it, though?

Reminds me of how HD blew me away in its early days.

Tom Hanks

radiowaves wrote: »

Isn't it, though?

Reminds me of how HD blew me away in its early days.

I treated myself to a Samsung Smart TV about a year ago & this is the premium fuel it's needed.

Great stuff

radiowaves

Tom Hanks wrote: »

I treated myself to a Samsung Smart TV about a year ago & this is the premium fuel it's needed.

Great stuff

I've read arguments that the reason I'm not blown away by Sky UK HD any more is because my eyes are now accustomed to it.

These people need to see Fox Sports Italia!

Tom Hanks

radiowaves wrote: »

I've read arguments that the reason I'm not blown away by Sky UK HD any more is because my eyes are now accustomed to it.

These people need to see Fox Sports Italia!

Damn sure pal!

You seen the quality of Digi Sports HD Hungary?

Thor 6 11823.00HBSS06K2 EuropeDVB-S28PSK30000 5/6Digi 74.4 Mbps

radiowaves

Tom Hanks wrote: »

Damn sure pal!

You seen the quality of Digi Sports HD Hungary?

Thor 6 11823.00HBSS06K2 EuropeDVB-S28PSK30000 5/6Digi 74.4 Mbps

I waited until half-time to turn over. I'm watching the guys in studio now. Very impressive picture - thanks for the tip.

Sky UK (and Ireland, nearly forgot) are getting away with murder

EDIT: They're showing match-highlights now, astonishing picture quality!

swoofer

I cant pick that up here in clare!!

radiowaves

GBCULLEN wrote: »

I cant pick that up here in clare!!

Fox Italia or Digisport?

swoofer

digisport and I should have made that clear but I was rushing. This is the beam but I can get tv2 ok.

its on the k2 beam

http://www.telenorsat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/THOR-6-K1-and-K2.pdf

snaps

GBCULLEN wrote: »

digisport and I should have made that clear.

Yes that K2 beam really drops off past the east coast. I sometimes get it on a 1.1m dish in blue skies. Anything other, No signal whats so ever here in Mayo.

snaps

Watching Spurs V Swansea on Fox Sports 2 HD, Possibly the sharpest, best quality picture ive ever ever seen in HD.

IrishHomer

snaps wrote: »

Watching Spurs V Swansea on Fox Sports 2 HD, Possibly the sharpest, best quality picture ive ever ever seen in HD.

Same for me. Fox Italia is really excellent.

becher

is this channel included in Sky Italia package - Calcio or Sport?

snaps

becher wrote: »

is this channel included in Sky Italia package - Calcio or Sport?

I think either, but don't quote me on that.

becher

meanwhile I have looked myself, think its in the calcio package included

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_Italia

and on their weird homepage the channel is listed at the calcio package
but the soccer offer is great again and include many EPL matches.

becher

two listings for the sky italia calcio and fox channels:

http://www.digital-sat.it/file/palin...Fox-Sports.pdf

http://www.digital-sat.it/file/palin...Sky-Calcio.pdf

with EPL, CL, EL, Bundesliga, La Liga, Eredivisie, Ligue 1 and Serie A and B

:cool:

lertsnim

becher wrote: »

two listings for the sky italia calcio and fox channels:

http://www.digital-sat.it/file/palin...Fox-Sports.pdf

http://www.digital-sat.it/file/palin...Sky-Calcio.pdf

with EPL, CL, EL, Bundesliga, La Liga, Eredivisie, Ligue 1 and Serie A and B

:cool:

Surely makes Sky Italia the king for football again. They were a lacking a bit without the Bundesliga last year

becher

all major (top 5) Leagues from Europe again,
with nearly all EPL matches (except 3pm :mad:)

Zardoz

snaps wrote: »

Watching Spurs V Swansea on Fox Sports 2 HD, Possibly the sharpest, best quality picture ive ever ever seen in HD.

I wouldnt mind seeing that channel in action.
Some of the crap that passes as HD football in the UK is laughable.

snaps

13 months pre paid calcio sub and an Sky Italia HD receiver available on ebay for 350€.

becher

but have a look, if you have a Diseq config.
the Sky italia receiver only works on Diseq 1.

snaps

becher wrote: »

but have a look, if you have a Diseq config.
the Sky italia receiver only works on Diseq 1.

set hotbird to diseqc 1. Or a 2nd dish aimed at hotbird!

becher

snaps wrote: »

set hotbird to diseqc 1. Or a 2nd dish aimed at hotbird!

yes that would work!

denis1501

Just to 100% clarify, Fox Sports is part of the 'Calcio' option and is NOT available to Sport subscribers.

Finne1993

Anyone else having problems with Fox Italia? Premiership matches seem to be blocked this weekend, they were fine last weekend.
As soon as the matches are over it unblocks.
Can anyone shed any light on this?

Tom Hanks

Finne1993 wrote: »

Anyone else having problems with Fox Italia? Premiership matches seem to be blocked this weekend, they were fine last weekend.
As soon as the matches are over it unblocks.
Can anyone shed any light on this?

Working fine here.

Finne1993

Tom Hanks wrote: »

Working fine here.

It's very strange, this program is blocked is the message on screen in Italian, just the same way the Europa League matches were blocked on ESPN.
I messaged the eBay seller I bought the card from to see what the problem is, I'm waiting on a reply from him, hopefully this isn't the start of more restrictions on Premier League broadcasts, it's so annoying! I thought this was a foolproof option

denis1501

'avviso numero 08 programma non disponibile' is the message, right?
When Fox Sports is blocked can you still open Sky Calcio 1 and the others or are they blocked as well??
Update : You are not alone, prepaid cards have been hit all over Europe. Normal subscription cards are not affected.

Zardoz

Finne1993 wrote: »

It's very strange, this program is blocked is the message on screen in Italian, just the same way the Europa League matches were blocked on ESPN.
I messaged the eBay seller I bought the card from to see what the problem is, I'm waiting on a reply from him, hopefully this isn't the start of more restrictions on Premier League broadcasts, it's so annoying! I thought this was a foolproof option

That's very disappointing news.The EPl are really rubbing people up the wrong way.
You wouldnt mind either but the standard of football in the EPL is probably at its lowest level in a decade,its very poor fare.

Finne1993

Programma non disponibile is simply the message and soon as the match is over the channel is back on
All Calcio channels and Fox Sports plus working fine all the time including when Fox Sports is blocked. looks like I'll be looking for a refund!

denis1501

I'd wait to see what happens if I were you, loads of people here in Italy use the prepaid cards as well and there's murder going on right now on the forums, talk of legal action etc. I can't see how they can sell a prepaid card to a particular package in good faith and then block a channel that was said to be part of the deal. If they knew certain cards were being used outside of Italy then fair enough but a carpet blocking of the Premier League games across all the cards?? Can't see how that can be legal tbh.
I was in my local Sky Service store just last week and there were prepaids with decoders on sale for 299 euros, Fox Sports was clearly advertised as part of the package.

snaps

Surely this can't be right? How can sky uk/epl have so much control?

Just been doing some research and indeed it seems that prepaid cards have been hit around Europe (Well i've read examples of Spain and Italy). I'm hoping now this opens a can of worms and puts another nail in the greed and overpriced structure of the EPL. There will be a backlash of prepaid customers flooding through doors come monday morning looking for their money back, perhaps the EPL will pay back all the rights money to the relevant countries involved??? Fat chance.

Well it will be their downfall anyway if people across Europe loose their EPL viewing, theres plenty more leagues to be watching now. The Bundesliga is fast becoming the best league in the world and has a much better business model than the outdated EPL. If i had to watch that on a saturday afternoon, I wouldn't be too disappointed!

Oh, to make things more laughable, Sky Italy blamed bad weather for the problems yesterday!!

And yet again like whats been mentioned on other forums, It pushes people to watch EPL in Illegal forms, so then everyone looses out, from the customer right down to the EPL themselves.

So much for Europe and the freedom of goods etc etc. Seems Europe being one happy family is only there to work 1 way.

Perhaps we should soon have a pan European broadcaster that will buy rights for the whole of Europe and put a stop to this stupid tit for tat tactics.

Finne1993

Blocked again today for the Liverpool United match. They must be in a fierce bad way over in Italy if the bad weather has lasted this long. :-)

snaps

Seems pre paid sky Germany customers are also being affected. Its very very poor form.

denis1501

One of the moderators on an Italian forum I respect is saying that it is only a database problem at Sky and will be rectified in a couple of days. He says some prepaid cards were wrongly programmed. Now I doubt that he's correct but I thought I should post this anyway.

denis1501

Another forum user states
"ho parlato ora con lo sky center
mi hanno confermato che sulle nuove prepagate non è possibile vedere la premier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ho fatto una discussione terribile ma hanno una direttiva nuova in cui si specifica che per una questione legata ai diritti televisivi non possono trasmettere in diretta la premier".

I've just spoken with the Sky Center, they have confirmed to me that on the new prepaid cards it is not possible to view the Premier League!!!!! I had a heated conversation but they told me that they have a new directive in which it is stated that due to rights issues they can no longer transmit the Premier League live.

Nowso

denis1501 wrote: »

Another forum user states
"ho parlato ora con lo sky center
mi hanno confermato che sulle nuove prepagate non è possibile vedere la premier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ho fatto una discussione terribile ma hanno una direttiva nuova in cui si specifica che per una questione legata ai diritti televisivi non possono trasmettere in diretta la premier".

I've just spoken with the Sky Center, they have confirmed to me that on the new prepaid cards it is not possible to view the Premier League!!!!! I had a heated conversation but they told me that they have a new directive in which it is stated that due to rights issues they can no longer transmit the Premier League live.

theres one point you seem to have missed

both fox italy and sky Germany are carried on Sky , people buying them in uk and Ireland etc are paying Rupert and Sky less than if they subscribed to sky here ,

Douglas Eegit

Any more rumours on how this Sky Italia/Fox Sports is going to pan out?
I got my Sky Italia box delivered yesterday and not going to unbox it until next week. Not looking good though so I will probably have to send it back...

EDIT:
Just reviewed the ebay site I purchased the card & box from and they seem to say that fox sports does not include premier league on prepaid cards:

With Fox Sports HD you can't see Premiere League

I will wait two weeks before returning the box just to back up what they seem to be saying but i think it could have substance as they are an Italian provider,

Is the day of the foreign box showing EPL slowly coming to an end?

denis1501

Douglas Eegit wrote: »

Is the day of the foreign box showing EPL slowly coming to an end?

No, Fox Sports PL coverage is being blocked only on 'prepaid' cards, normal subscriptions are NOT affected.

STB

Nowso wrote: »

theres one point you seem to have missed

both fox italy and sky Germany are carried on Sky , people buying them in uk and Ireland etc are paying Rupert and Sky less than if they subscribed to sky here ,

This may be a case of closing the barn door after the horse has bolted.

Sky Italia/Fox is owned by Murdoch also. People seem surprised that a company might stoop to such a level. At the end of the day, they will sort the issue locally and offer their customers an alternative no doubt involving a proprietary box tied down to a card and an address, if what is being discussed is infact true. People who have not bought locally will of course be fecked as they have violtated the T&C of the prepaid card.

Despite the ECJ judgement, broadcasters/rights holders don't have to sell outside their territories and I am sure there is something in the PL agreement that actually prevents them from doing so. Otherwise we would have Pan European rights being sold. Its seems sneaky, but hey the motivation of the overall owners is to make as much money as possible. If that means cheesing off a few thousand local Italian customers to avoid UK pubs getting hold of their cards then..... Sky Italia didnt seem perturbed who they cheesed off subscribers last season when they removed the english audio streams.

Other PL rights holders might not have such interest in doing same as they are not owned by Murdoch!

Bottom line, stay away from foreign broadcasters were Murdoch has an interest, if this is what their plan is.

lertsnim

Silly Murdoch. Remove the option of foreign broadcasters and people will go online

snaps

lertsnim wrote: »

Silly Murdoch. Remove the option of foreign broadcasters and people will go online

Its already happening, I know quite a few guys that have been in the foreign satellite game for many many years, Have now got out of it. They are now using iptv boxes possibly to not very legal streams. But now with this move, everyone loses out in money.

I said this on another forum, EPL/Sky Uk seem to have a serious problem with a small percentage of Irish/UK viewers using other EU broadcasters for tv reception, But they dont seem to bothered about all the thousands of bars in cities and resorts around Europe showing Sky UK. Kettle calling the pot black springs to mind!