Seapoint OW swim around yellow buoys.. Distance?

hollingr

Does anyone here do this swim regularly?

I've been swimming there on my tobler most days, wondering about the distances but can't find info anywhere.. only vague guesstimates.

Any folk with a gps watch know the distances between the ramp and 1st buoy and between each of the 5 buoys?

Planning on doing the glendalough 1.5 km swim in a few weeks so would be handy to know if I am actually covering the distance or not!

StaggerLee

hollingr wrote: »

Does anyone here do this swim regularly?

I've been swimming there on my tobler most days, wondering about the distances but can't find info anywhere.. only vague guesstimates.

Any folk with a gps watch know the distances between the ramp and 1st buoy and between each of the 5 buoys?

Planning on doing the glendalough 1.5 km swim in a few weeks so would be handy to know if I am actually covering the distance or not!

Its about 750 meters from the 1st to the 5th buoy.

ChickenBalls

I recently did a Night Swim there for charity - first time too! Great experience.

I swam to the 3rd buoy from the ramp and back - here's my garmin log - 950m even thou they said it was 750m

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/354321910

hollingr

thanks, chickenballs i think that log is private I can't view it!

ChickenBalls

Sorry it's public now

hollingr

wow didnt realise the bing maps showed the buoys! I can work out the exact distance now pretty accurately, will post a picture in a bit

declanobrennan

Hey - so this is in at Seapoint, not the 40 foot, right?

Anyone know the distances around the 40 ft buoys? Thanks!

hollingr

ill be able to get them now declan, will use the bing maps and post the distances in a bit

ChickenBalls

declanobrennan wrote: »

Hey - so this is in at Seapoint, not the 40 foot, right?

Anyone know the distances around the 40 ft buoys? Thanks!

From back to front of 40 Foot around all yellow buoys except the one half way out to the pier!

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/325753448

cjt156

What about Killiney Beach? Anyone?

Micilin Muc

Seapoint - all buoys and straight back is approx. 1.43km.

Measured it with my Garmin walking the buoys at low tide

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/217196018

Shedite27

That's handy. Did a quick lookup of Seapoint via bing and GPS tracker.

End of the slipway to the far left (first) bouy is 195m, then 198m to the next bouy, 148m to the next bouy, 160m to the next bouy, and 150m to the last.

575m between the far left and right bouys.

hollingr

The bing maps aerial photography are great, used to use it for dimensioning engineering roads projects and never failed us so I think these figures are about as accurate as you will find (done in autocad):

Forty foot:


Seapoint:

RacoonQueen

ChickenBalls wrote: »

I recently did a Night Swim there for charity - first time too! Great experience.

I swam to the 3rd buoy from the ramp and back - here's my garmin log - 950m even thou they said it was 750m

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/354321910

Oh you were in my group :cool:

hollingr

if anyone wants me to make a similar distance map for any open water swim - just link me the bing map location and i'll cook one up no prob

@cjt156: i cannot really make out the buoys at killiney although i am familiar with that swim, so can't suss out the lengths sorry. also i think one or two of the buoys go beyond the aerial photography area that is higher res

ChickenBalls

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Oh you were in my group :cool:

I must know you to see at least by know!

johnk123

Thank you very much for the seapoint image! I made up a similar one myself and had it at 1300m all in.. much nicer to have the chart you made! Will print that if that's ok with you!

hollingr

yeah go wild. i was thinking of taping it up on the wall at the changing rooms so people could have a look, everyone that swims there tends to have the distance conversation and everyone comes up with different answers!

declanobrennan

Great thread - great responses. Thanks very much!

declanobrennan

ChickenBalls wrote: »

I recently did a Night Swim there for charity - first time too! Great experience.

I swam to the 3rd buoy from the ramp and back - here's my garmin log - 950m even thou they said it was 750m

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/354321910

Hey Chickenballs - who was the swim for and is it a regular event? I'd like to stick it in my diary for the next time. Thanks for posting the map too.

ChickenBalls

declanobrennan wrote: »

Hey Chickenballs - who was the swim for and is it a regular event? I'd like to stick it in my diary for the next time. Thanks for posting the map too.

It was a fundraiser for East Coast Open Water Swimmers for valuable support crafts and safety equipment - I actually stumbled upon it by accident through a friend on Facebook. Details here for this years one https://www.facebook.com/events/599065560127453/

Cost was €10 and you get a glow stick for your swim cap so you don't get lost and BBQ after.

declanobrennan

ChickenBalls wrote: »

It was a fundraiser for East Coast Open Water Swimmers for valuable support crafts and safety equipment - I actually stumbled upon it by accident through a friend on Facebook. Details here for this years one https://www.facebook.com/events/599065560127453/

Cost was €10 and you get a glow stick for your swim cap so you don't get lost and BBQ after.

That looks great on the Facebook page. Deffo gonna do that next year - better do a lot of work on my sighting until then!

Sasso

hollingr, above maps and distances are just brilliant, thank you. However two problems, firstly I havent been doing the distances that I was claiming and secondly I got to be a good boy and ask Santa for a garmin type watch. Damn your accuracy !!! You've just burst my bubble

hollingr

haha no worries sasso, i was in the same boat. finding out the real distances burst my bubble big time!

keep in mind there are tidal currents to contend with and you will always be swimming more than the exact point to point distances. depending on how straight you swim, you could be doing a hell of a lot more than the figures above!

Effects

Hey, just wanted to check if these distances are still accurate. Haven't been able to find more up to date data.

hollingr

The buoys haven't moved at all so it should be as accurate as the day it was made. I've heard people with gps watches down there saying it's slightly longer but keep in mind they're not swimming a straight line like you can on an OS map

Effects

Cheers for the update. I usually just head to the first buoy and back but thinking of increasing the distance. Thinking it's time to get a tri suit as well as it's getting a bit too cold for just swim shorts!

Shedite27

Effects wrote: »

Cheers for the update. I usually just head to the first buoy and back but thinking of increasing the distance. Thinking it's time to get a tri suit as well as it's getting a bit too cold for just swim shorts!

I think it's a wetsuit you're looking for if you're going in over the winter! Or a pool membership!

Effects

I've got a surf wetsuit, I'll try it out when it gets too cold. If it's not that suited to swimming I'll get a reasonably priced tri-suit.
Spotted one on wiggle for about €100.

MojoMaker

I know it's probably habit but you'll ned to stop confusing trisuits with wetsuits at some point or someone's gonna sell you the Brooklyn bridge.

Surf wetsuits will slow you down in the water compared to swimming with no suit at all, and trisuits won't give you any insulation against the cold, and this time of the year your muscles just won't operate effectively after a fairly short period of immersion in current temperatures. As you say you're best off pricing and sourcing an entry-level swimming/tri wetsuit and getting out there. No need to break the bank with the first one and now is a good time to buy as 2016 stock is being shovelled out the door of most places.

Effects

A trisuit gives no insulation? Really? If that's the case then why would I bother wearing one?

zico10

Effects wrote: »

A trisuit gives no insulation? Really? If that's the case then why would I bother wearing one?

You have to wear something doing a triathlon. There are rules against nudity. A tri-suit is not really designed with the swim in mind. It is a piece of kit that is both comfortable to wear on both the bike and run. Wearing one in a race means you don't have to waste time changing gear in transition. Aerodynamics are considered in their design, but even though they can be worn in the water, it is generally recommended to wear a swim skin-suit over them in any race above sprint distance. And they don't provide any insulation either.

You should be able to get a cheap tri wetsuit with a budget of about €100. I imagine surf suits would provide more insulation, but if you're still getting into the water in skins at this time of year, I imagine you should be okay without this. Unlike surf suits, tri wetsuits are designed for swimming, the key being they allow for a greater range of motion in the shoulders. This is why Mojomaker said 'they will slow you down compared to swimming with no suit at all,' but I've seen plenty of people with surf suits at races, so if you already have one, swim away. I imagine you're not looking to set records in the OW at this time of year and if just staying accustomed to the cold throughout the winter months is your only goal, than a surfing wetsuit will do the job just fine.

Effects

I woke up this morning with the thought that a trisuit is the singlet type thing worn under the tri wetsuit. It all makes sense now!

zico10

Effects wrote: »

I woke up this morning with the thought that a trisuit is the singlet type thing worn under the tri wetsuit. It all makes sense now!

They are. Sorry, I didn't explain that in my last post. Having them on under your wetsuit means you don't have to put on any gear in T1.