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will my idea (door for shed work)

  • 17-08-2013 7:55pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭


    http://www.donedeal.ie/farmsheds-for-sale/farm-industrial-buildings/3037847

    I have a shed similar to the one in the main picture which I want to close up as rain can blow in. the size of the opening is 24ft by 13ft high. I cant put a sliding door obviously as there are no sides to mount the rollers. I don't want to put in an automatic roller door because of expense (want to buy reversible plough instead this year) so I was thinking of making a cheapie myself.
    my plan is to have to swinging doors. so that's two 12ft by 13ft. was thinking of making the frame with box iron and have angle iron going diagonal and then covering with cladding. I can weld and do it all myself. what do ye think? I was going to put a line of angle at the top of the shed aswell on the timber to stop shed blowing in if it was really windy.

    what do ye think? any advice?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    Those size of doors would be lethal in the wind. if you can hold out till you can afford a roller door or at least doubke hinge the doors into 4 sections so they may be half managable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭stoeger


    f140 wrote: »
    http://www.donedeal.ie/farmsheds-for-sale/farm-industrial-buildings/3037847

    I have a shed similar to the one in the main picture which I want to close up as rain can blow in. the size of the opening is 24ft by 13ft high. I cant put a sliding door obviously as there are no sides to mount the rollers. I don't want to put in an automatic roller door because of expense (want to buy reversible plough instead this year) so I was thinking of making a cheapie myself.
    my plan is to have to swinging doors. so that's two 12ft by 13ft. was thinking of making the frame with box iron and have angle iron going diagonal and then covering with cladding. I can weld and do it all myself. what do ye think? I was going to put a line of angle at the top of the shed aswell on the timber to stop shed blowing in if it was really windy.

    what do ye think? any advice?

    I have made doors just like you idea and they work fine . I made then out of 40 mil box with 3mil wall only i used 8x4 galvanized sheets and riveted then on . Buy or make good strong hinges they will be grand


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭jersey101


    Have you seen them wind breakers?? There green i think. You could make a curtain out of it and be able to open and close when you want, wont keep all the rain out but would be alright until you can do something better


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭f140


    1chippy wrote: »
    Those size of doors would be lethal in the wind. if you can hold out till you can afford a roller door or at least doubke hinge the doors into 4 sections so they may be half managable.

    doors would be closed 99.9% of the time. shed only stores all silage trailers, mower, slurry tank etc which are only pulled out every few months. tractors and digger are parked in another shed so they wont be in and out of this one every day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭stoeger


    f140 wrote: »
    doors would be closed 99.9% of the time. shed only stores all silage trailers, mower, slurry tank etc which are only pulled out every few months. tractors and digger are parked in another shed so they wont be in and out of this one every day

    You could use timber lats and space them 2" apart far less chance of wind catching them only thing is treating then every year you can make your box iron frame run angle around inside and gutter bold timber on job done


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭grazeaway


    jersey101 wrote: »
    Have you seen them wind breakers?? There green i think. You could make a curtain out of it and be able to open and close when you want, wont keep all the rain out but would be alright until you can do something better

    Good cheap option.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    That size of door will need 13 sheets of thin in 8x4 sheets. guessing between 40-60 a sheet. so lets say 650. another 200 minimum on steel with brackets and supports and frame. Your at 850 already before you put in your time and messing around with it say 2 days @ 125 per day. Thats 1100 for a temporary door. a little less than half the price of a decent basic roller door, that would last a lifetime.. the other one will be pulled out in a few years when the hinges are strained and doors battered. sometimes its a real false economy doing these things yourself. a temporary windbreaker at least isnt going to break the bank.. Hang 2 field gates across the front if you want.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭f140


    1chippy wrote: »
    That size of door will need 13 sheets of thin in 8x4 sheets. guessing between 40-60 a sheet. so lets say 650. another 200 minimum on steel with brackets and supports and frame. Your at 850 already before you put in your time and messing around with it say 2 days @ 125 per day. Thats 1100 for a temporary door. a little less than half the price of a decent basic roller door, that would last a lifetime.. the other one will be pulled out in a few years when the hinges are strained and doors battered. sometimes its a real false economy doing these things yourself. a temporary windbreaker at least isnt going to break the bank.. Hang 2 field gates across the front if you want.

    for cladding I got a price of €2.30 per foot and it covers 42 inches he said. so that's 2.70 x13 =€35.1. then 4 sheets per door which is 8 sheets in total so €280 in total for cladding. my time is free especially on a wet day (or when theres children around im only looking for a reason to get out the house). I expect to have other metal aswell for €250. so €500 for the lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    The wind breaker would be your cheapest option, you can get roll up ones same as a roller door. Another poster said they leave in some rain, I put one on the end of a hayshed 10 years ago and it didn't leave in a drop of rain since :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭f140


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    The wind breaker would be your cheapest option, you can get roll up ones same as a roller door. Another poster said they leave in some rain, I put one on the end of a hayshed 10 years ago and it didn't leave in a drop of rain since :)

    I don't like the wind breakers. had one before in another shed for cattle and wasn't very happy with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    f140 wrote: »
    I don't like the wind breakers. had one before in another shed for cattle and wasn't very happy with it.
    Ok, steel doors it is so :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    f140 wrote: »
    I don't like the wind breakers. had one before in another shed for cattle and wasn't very happy with it.

    We have one that is about 25 years old works great, plenty of ventilation but no rain coming through. They need to be secured properly to prevent getting damaged from the wind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭st1979


    yellow50HX wrote: »
    We have one that is about 25 years old works great, plenty of ventilation but no rain coming through. They need to be secured properly to prevent getting damaged from the wind.

    Who does the windbreaker


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭sea12


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    The wind breaker would be your cheapest option, you can get roll up ones same as a roller door. Another poster said they leave in some rain, I put one on the end of a hayshed 10 years ago and it didn't leave in a drop of rain since :)

    That's good to hear Sam. I need to do the same for this winter. I was going for the roll up one. Where did u get yours


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭caseman


    Did you get a price for a roller door , as said in another post alot of money and time to be spent an other doors and still only a halve job.
    Ive seen lorry covers put up an similar doors, this could do as tempory job till funds are avaiable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Blue Holland


    f140 wrote: »
    I don't like the wind breakers. had one before in another shed for cattle and wasn't very happy with it.

    You seem fairly bent on the doors, am i right that your question was as much about construction of the doors as alternatives. The size of doors is bit crazy but putting that aside is shed completely closed up other than this end? If so should consider a small passenger door so won't ave to open them if you just want to run in grab something.
    Maybe consider being able secure them top and bottom especially if there is another opening to avoid blowing out as well as in. What size box had you in mind and is it x bracing with the angle you were thinking of. Also maybe some way of controlling them when opening.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭f140


    You seem fairly bent on the doors, am i right that your question was as much about construction of the doors as alternatives. The size of doors is bit crazy but putting that aside is shed completely closed up other than this end? If so should consider a small passenger door so won't ave to open them if you just want to run in grab something.
    Maybe consider being able secure them top and bottom especially if there is another opening to avoid blowing out as well as in. What size box had you in mind and is it x bracing with the angle you were thinking of. Also maybe some way of controlling them when opening.

    yes I have this way fairly set in my mind alright. was going with 4x2 box iron and 6mm 2 inch angle iron for the x bracing. yes there is already a door at the back to get in and out but that's only a standard pvc door (7x3 or whatever the human door is)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    f140 wrote: »
    yes I have this way fairly set in my mind alright. was going with 4x2 box iron and 6mm 2 inch angle iron for the x bracing. yes there is already a door at the back to get in and out but that's only a standard pvc door (7x3 or whatever the human door is)
    Do you know how to square up the door as you are making it?


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