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Any point in appealing?

  • 16-08-2013 9:34am
    #1
    Ms. Pingui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭


    I got a letter from SUSI this morning saying that I will not receive any grant as my means are over the limit.
    I am a 23 year old (mature student) lone parent who is still living at home.
    I get lone parent payment from social welfare and look after myself and my child as well as contribute to the running of the household with this small amount of money. My fathers income really has no affect on me but this is the reason that I was refused financial aid.
    Is there any point in appealing this decision or should I just leave it be?
    I won't be able to attend college without help for my registration at least.


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  • #2
    Chez1988
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ✭Chez1988


    I was in the same position as you, I'm 25, a mature student on loan parent and living with my parents, got refused initially but appealed due to change in circumstances as my dads income has changed a good bit this year and so they took that into account. Got a letter early July saying the appeal was successful and is now being reassessed on the change of circumstances, so if your parents income has changed this year you should definitely appeal. Maybe even just give them a ring and explain your situation, they might be able to figure something out for you.


  • #3
    bri007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭bri007


    sorry for jumping in here, ive applied to susi in june,i am at stage 4 now,awaiting assessment. I am border line to get the financial assistance. I live with my father. Just wondering, When I applied my father was in full time work, but now he has taken ill, has been out of work for the past 6-7 weeks, and could possibly be longer. Just curious if i should inform susi, or wait until they give me an answer on my application first?


  • #4
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Ms. Pingui wrote: »
    I got a letter from SUSI this morning saying that I will not receive any grant as my means are over the limit.
    I am a 23 year old (mature student) lone parent who is still living at home.
    I get lone parent payment from social welfare and look after myself and my child as well as contribute to the running of the household with this small amount of money. My fathers income really has no affect on me but this is the reason that I was refused financial aid.
    Is there any point in appealing this decision or should I just leave it be?
    I won't be able to attend college without help for my registration at least.

    Because you live with your father it is assessed on his income

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #5
    Ms. Pingui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Ms. Pingui


    mango salsa wrote: »
    Because you live with your father it is assessed on his income

    Yes, but he doesn't give me money for stuff, I pay my own way.
    Anyway apart from that we don't have the same income levels as 2012. My father lost his job late last year and was on social welfare for a few months. He has since got another job but with lower pay and his contract is only for 6 months. He will be jobseeking again in about 4 months. Does this matter at all?


  • #6
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Ms. Pingui wrote: »
    Yes, but he doesn't give me money for stuff, I pay my own way.
    Anyway apart from that we don't have the same income levels as 2012. My father lost his job late last year and was on social welfare for a few months. He has since got another job but with lower pay and his contract is only for 6 months. He will be jobseeking again in about 4 months. Does this matter at all?

    Yes - if his income levels are lower than 2012 then you could claim that there is a change in circumstances

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • #7
    cakeisgood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭cakeisgood


    There was a time mature students got a lot of assistance (dole, grant and rent paid for) so I will admit I am glad to see a crackdown on this as its unfair to the younger students who get very little. A lot of loan parents don't work so I don't see how they can manage college if they cant manage a job but I suppose a lot of lone parents do want to work but cant get jobs with the state Ireland is in.

    However, if you moved out of home I think you would get assistance as then your Fathers circumstances wouldn't be taking into account. Single parents get rent allowance etc. From what you say though about your Fathers income, I think appealing would be successful. Just make sure you have documents to prove everything. Although the grant is a lot less then social welfare, they make it ten times harder to get it.


  • #8
    Ms. Pingui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Ms. Pingui


    cakeisgood wrote: »
    There was a time mature students got a lot of assistance (dole, grant and rent paid for) so I will admit I am glad to see a crackdown on this as its unfair to the younger students who get very little. A lot of loan parents don't work so I don't see how they can manage college if they cant manage a job but I suppose a lot of lone parents do want to work but cant get jobs with the state Ireland is in.

    However, if you moved out of home I think you would get assistance as then your Fathers circumstances wouldn't be taking into account. Single parents get rent allowance etc. From what you say though about your Fathers income, I think appealing would be successful. Just make sure you have documents to prove everything. Although the grant is a lot less then social welfare, they make it ten times harder to get it.[/QUOTE/]

    There are plenty of single parents that aren't lazy wasters you know! It's quite difficult to improve your circumstances with very little help.
    Obviously employment prospects are greatly improved with education!
    What if the older person never got a chance to go to college when they were a young person? Why should they be penalised for their age and trying to make a better life for themselves.

    It would be a bit of a waste of a year to sit on my bum in a house paid for with rent allowance before I can get assistance for college.
    That's what annoys me so much. The government will pay for a house for me but not assist me with education so I can get off lone parents allowance and look after myself. It would be more beneficial to everyone involved.


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