Primary Teacher qualifications?

miss_aisling

Hi! I was just wondering if I do my course in CICE (the church of Ireland teaching college), will i only be able to teach in church of Ireland schools? Anyone who has got their qualifications from there and could give me some advice I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks

randylonghorn

miss_aisling wrote: »

Hi! I was just wondering if I do my course in CICE (the church of Ireland teaching college), will i only be able to teach in church of Ireland schools? Anyone who has got their qualifications from there and could give me some advice I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks

The course is offered jointly with Trinity and accredited by that university, so I couldn't imagine that recognition of the qualification is a problem.

However, I suspect many primary schools under RC patronage might not be all that inclined to jump at you tbh (and I vaguely remember something about additional modules / a diploma (?) in RE for primary schools which the other colleges offer which many RC schools will look for I suspect).

I doubt that the non-denominational schools run by Educate Together etc. would care; you might even have a small (albeit probably more sub-conscious than anything else) advantage there coming out of CICE.

I can move this to Teaching and Lecturing for you if you like? ... there might be more people there with actual experience of the issue.

miss_aisling

Thanks for the advice and yes please!

petronius

The CICE's mission is to provide teachers for the national schools Church of Ireland and other Protestant denominations and does so with distinction. Teaching the reformed faith is part of the course. The college is very good at networking and getting graduates places in schools of all denominations
Funnily enough the majority of staff at the College are Catholic and 75% of the students of the College are Catholic.

http://www.churchnewsireland.org/news/synod-2013-most-of-full-time-staff-at-coi-college-are-catholics-reveals-archbishop/

The BEd is the same TCD Degree awarded by Marino and Froebel.

miss_aisling

75% of the students can't be Catholic, they only accepted Protestant denominations

petronius

From the COI Synod the archbishop said 75% were catholic!

http://www.churchnewsireland.org/news/synod-2013-most-of-full-time-staff-at-coi-college-are-catholics-reveals-archbishop/

spurious

Perhaps they mean Anglican Catholic, not Roman Catholic.

**edit
Sorry, just read the link in the last post, scrap that.

miss_aisling

Oh well you you learn something new everyday! :P

petronius

I think the CICE tried to reserve places for COI students like they used to do so in the past, but I don't think they were allowed to do so.
I think to teach in a Catholic ethos school you need a Cert in Religion which you can do externally or by distance ed., in Marino, Froebel, Mary I, UU Coleraine, St. Mary's Belfast, and Drumcondra.

You also need this Cert of equivalent to teach in Catholic maintained schools in the UK
http://www.onlineccms.com/teachers/religious-certificate-availability/

petronius

Actually Aisling, I see Sligo aside your name, I think st. angelas in sligo also do a Cert in RE course, they maybe good people to ask.

miss_aisling

Thanks petronius! Thats brilliant. A cert? how long is it?

petronius

maybe ask one of the providers, i dunno.
most catholic college students do it aside their degree.
but it is available via distance learning, and maybe shorter via British location, since it was recently academicised in the Ireland

I know Hibernia College graduates tend to do this course to get to teach in a catholic primary school - so to quote Tom Jones ... it's not unusual

bonbons

Students in CICE on the bachelor of education degree programme must be from the Protestant tradition. However students attending the college to undertake other courses such as the diploma in special education or the masters in special education may be from any religious persuasion or none.

petronius

You are correct on the BEd programme places are reserved to those of the protestant faith

http://www.cice.ie/files/B.Ed.EntryRequirements.pdf

But there is a caveat "who are aware of and willing to support the distinctive ethos of Protestant primary schools."

So special needs course must be overwhelmingly non-protestant

randylonghorn

miss_aisling wrote: »

Thanks for the advice and yes please!

I think some of them found you anyway, but I'll pop it over to T&L anyway, you may even bump into some teachers who came through CICE!

Powerhouse

miss_aisling wrote: »

Hi! I was just wondering if I do my course in CICE (the church of Ireland teaching college), will i only be able to teach in church of Ireland schools? Anyone who has got their qualifications from there and could give me some advice I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks

The Principal of one of the feeder Primary schools to mine trained in that college so clearly it did little to inhibit his career. He trained about 25 years ago and I have no idea if he had to do extra stuff at the time but he has spent his career in a school under Catholic patronage.

killbillvol2

Powerhouse wrote: »

The Principal of one of the feeder Primary schools to mine trained in that college so clearly it did little to inhibit his career. He trained about 25 years ago and I have no idea if he had to do extra stuff at the time but he has spent his career in a school under Catholic patronage.

If he trained in CICE about 25 years ago he was in a tiny minority

I was in Marino about the same time and we shared lectures in Trinity. There were only 2 males in CICE during my time! Given that he's now in the RC system I'm pretty sure who he is.