simmental bull curaheen apostle apz

kingping007

Hi guys any one use this bull how did u get on have 8 simmental heifers was going to use him on them..very disapointed with my kilbride farm newry calves .. what sort of cattle from him have they milk looking 4 replament cows with power and milk please advise cheers

bogman_bass

Very happy with the couple we have. haven't used much Simmental here before though just to throw a disclaimer in there.

Great muscle maybe could be a little taller though

kingping007

ya i heard he was a small bull what age r your calves

Bizzum

kingping007 wrote: »

Hi guys any one use this bull how did u get on have 8 simmental heifers was going to use him on them..very disapointed with my kilbride farm newry calves

What's wrong with the KFY calves you have? Are they PB or comm?

bogman_bass

kingping007 wrote: »

ya i heard he was a small bull what age r your calves

one would be 10 months and the other 5

kingping007

my kfy calves are commerical they are about 7 months old they r narrow both front and back very plain out of 3 top sim x cows i have better younger calves out of my own sim bull i was so dissapointed i was going on figures without seeing any stock thats why asking about apostel before i use him

FYM

Seaview Tommy (SEV) in Dovea is an underrated bull in my opinion, he maybe what you are looking for??? Just a taught

farmerjack

Apz is only suitable for tall cows/heifers IMO, he is short but had good width to him, agree regarding sev super bull breeding cattle with plenty if scope, we have a hand ful of cattle by both bulls and this was our experience

49801

Had a cracker SEV bull calf out of a very ordinary cow too.

Bizzum

kingping007 wrote: »

my kfy calves are commerical they are about 7 months old they r narrow both front and back very plain out of 3 top sim x cows i have better younger calves out of my own sim bull i was so dissapointed i was going on figures without seeing any stock thats why asking about apostel before i use him

Easy to see why you are looking for a change so. We had some cracking stock of KFY, mainly off shapey Lim cows. Couple of nice calves off CQA too, bulls unfortunately!
We have since gone away from Simm to breed replacements. The bull weanlings take too much of a hit at the Mart. But that's another story!

just do it

4 calves by him this Spring. Weighed all calves yesterday and the 1 APZ bull calf I have is by far and away the best of all the calves and has had a ADG of 1.45. The next nearest calf is a CH DZP at 1.25kg ADG.

The three heifers are average but out of the poorer cows in the herd. Ave ADG 1.00kg. Having said that they are improving with time and I'm anticipating they'll make nice replacements. The three cows they're out of aren't great milkers.

If you search back through the photo thread they're all on there around the end of June (photos taken on 25th and 26th).

bogman_bass

1.45 is a good ADG. what age was he at weighing?

kingping007

think sea view tommy is a son of kilbride farm newry so think i will pass there looking for easy calving simmental so bit limited maybe ballybane lad but hes 20e a shot plus ai cost so maybe bit dear for commerical heifers