Scientology Exposed

Oracle

Ex-Scientologist and whistleblower Karen de la Carriere is blabbing BIG time about the "Church" of Scientology (CoS) on YouTube. A 40 year veteran of the CoS, Karen blows the lid on almost every aspect of the organisation. She has started her own YouTube channel that she updates regularly with new videos, it's called Surviving Scientology.

Recently Karen created a video, with such sensitive revelations, that it was taken down by YouTube. It's assumed it's removal was at the request of Scientology. However this video has been re-posted elsewhere and can still be viewed.

claypigeon777

Who can forget how South Park lampooned Scientology?:)

Oracle

There's another Scientology protester on YouTube, whos videos are entertaining, as well as informative. He goes under the name of AngryGayPope (AGP), and his YouTube channel is called The End of Scientology. There's more than 240 videos available on his channel. Highly recommended, although I'd suggest viewing his videos from the earliest to the newest, rather than in the order given on YouTube.

AGP also has his own personal web site with a lot of background information on the CoS and more videos. There's a link to his web site in the banner at the top of his YouTube channel home page.

lee_baby_simms

This is a fantastic interview with ex church celebrity member Jason Beghe. He explains the scam element of the cult very well.

Oracle

Hot off the press, courtesy of AGP's website and the Daily Mail ..... Scientology's 'alien space cathedral and spaceship landing pad' built in the New Mexico desert.

themadhair

Oracle wrote: »

Recently Karen created a video, with such sensitive revelations, that it was taken down by YouTube.

No….just no. It is more likely that the video was targeted by a troll than the cult since KdeLC wouldn't be high on the cult radar these days, and the AGP, KdeLC, AnonOrange brigade have plenty of haters.

If you're looking for a one-stop-shop overview of Scientology you could do much worse than the videos from the Dublin Offlines conference last year which covered pretty much all aspects of the organisation:
http://exscientologistsireland.org/wp/introduction/

My fave video on this topic at the moment is this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0UFZVHfel4

gumbo1

Done a tour of LA today an seen both scientology churches, there ridiculously big and even have their own celebrity church!! Bunch of mentlers IMO!!

SoulandForm

Its strange how that "Church's" relationship to Charles Manson and Aliester Crowley (both well documented and undeniable) are not brought up more often.

kryogen

Tell me more of the Mason links, I am aware of a photo with L Ron Hubbard meeting Crowley alright, but not much more.

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SoulandForm

kryogen wrote: »

Tell me more of the Mason links, I am aware of a photo with L Ron Hubbard meeting Crowley alright, but not much more.

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L Ron Hubbard was involved with Jack Parsons the famous rocket engineer who has a crator on the moon named after him and disciple of Crowley and I believe ended the relationship by ripping him off. In the best biography of Crowley by John Symonds he talks briefly about Crowley and L Ron- Crowley seemed impressed by him if I remember correctly.

SoulandForm

kryogen wrote: »

Tell me more of the Mason links, I am aware of a photo with L Ron Hubbard meeting Crowley alright, but not much more.

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Charles Manson was an early member of the "Church" and reached a high grade Operating Thetan some number or other; that much is sure. There are other claims and will try to dig them out if you would like.

SoulandForm

William Burroughs- someone who killed his wife and was very open about his "love" for young teenaged boys, was also involved in the "Church" for a time in its early years.

SoulandForm

themadhair

kryogen wrote: »

… I am aware of a photo with L Ron Hubbard meeting Crowley alright, but not much more.

Hubbard actually ripped off quite a lot of his ideas from Crowley. Compare Crowley's concept of 'Will' with Hubbard's concept of 'postulating' for example. The central tenet of Scientology and Dianetics is the relieving of charge accumulated through experiencing traumatic memories, memories accumulated in not just this lifetime, but also previous lifetimes - the whole concept is a bastardisation of Crowley's concept of 'magic memory'.

There is more information on his time with Crowley and Parsons here:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/books/bfm/bfm07.htm

SoulandForm wrote: »

Charles Manson was an early member of the "Church" and reached a high grade Operating Thetan some number or other; that much is sure.

Never heard Manson went clear, which is a pre-requisite for going OT. Those who reached the state of clear had their names published in 'The Auditor' magazine and other similar completion lists. Given that, afaiaa, Manson was never listed in such a completion list I suspect the claim that he was OT is an exaggeration. If you have evidence to the contrary I'd be interested to see it, but given that Scientology critics have pretty much catalogued every 'clear' (mostly to see how may have been declared) and given that going 'clear' is a prerequisite for going OT, I'm very skeptical of this claim.

There is no doubt Manson dabbled with Scientology when he was prison, but it simply isn't possible for him to have gone 'clear', let alone OT, if his involvement was limited to this. It doesn't help that there has been some serious exaggeration around Manson's life, with his Scientology involvement being just one of many examples. Consider the recent book 'The Life and Times of Charles Manson' by Jeff Guinn as an example:
http://www.npr.org/2013/09/18/223463616/bio-credits-mansons-terrible-rise-to-right-place-and-time

Unfortunately, Guinn is less than reliable when it comes to the details of Manson's involvement with Scientology. In the interview linked above Guinn makes this claim:
"That's why they encourage various religious groups. Manson glommed onto Scientology, not because he thought it was the perfect faith, but because he loved the way they would recruit people, telling these broken kids you're beautiful, you're perfect the way you are. If your families don't love you, it's because they're not accepting you for who you are, like I do. And he cribbed a lot of that by twisting some of the things he learned about Scientology in prison. "

Any ex-member or critic of Scientology familiar with Scientology recruitment materials (hat write-ups, dissemination course, checksheets, etc.) will tell you that what Guinn is describing above bears absolutely no relation to those materials. Guinn, like many others sadly, is making stuff up.