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mormons

  • 10-08-2013 10:25pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭


    i no im gonna get slated here
    its ok
    im pissed and ready for it, anyway they knocked on my door today and out of boredom and curiosity i invited them in, i told them i had no interest in their religion but i was open minded in what they had to say. jesus when i asked how many times they got invited inside for a cup of tea or in my case a can of "soda"
    i was shocked to hear that one of the guys wasnt ONCE invited into an irish house in nearly 6 months,
    give these poor lads a break. they have to go on some misssionary duties for 2 years of their lives to some weirdo country, the 2 guys i had were from utah and new zealand, they arent any harm to no one, they dont look for money, they are doing it because they want to do it
    dont slam the door in their faces, treat them with respect and give them an irish welcome.

    what do you do when you get the guys with the suits and the big badges selling the bible to you


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    Flash me gash


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Tis only Jehovah Witnesses around our way, do Mormons do house calls?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Dave_Power wrote: »
    what do you do when you get the guys with the suits and the big badges selling the bible to you

    they don't, I guess they take one look at me and run in the other direction :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 519 ✭✭✭thecatspjs


    If anyone like this comes to my door I politely say that I am not interested. I doubt the majority of people will slam the door in their faces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭demakinz


    I despise anyone who cold calls to my door


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    I live in the country so it doesn't happen but while I understand how annoying they must be you have to respect the dedication it takes to do that for hours, I'm sure they get some abuse on a daily basis too.

    I've much more respect for those folk then the folk that "believe" but go day-to-day in their lives as if they weren't privy to the single most important piece of information to ever grace humanity (regardless if it's bollox or not).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    They take one look at me, mumble some sort of excuse and leave fast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭dharma200


    They get money off their college fees for every convert. Worse than chuggers.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Moromons don't imbibe caffeinated drinks so by not inviting them in for tea Irish people are actually respecting their religion!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭Hownowcow


    Dave_Power wrote: »

    what do you do when you get the guys with the suits and the big badges selling the bible to you

    Mormons selling the bible?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭AngeGal


    Why should someone invite them in??? I'm not rude but politely tell them I'm not interested and I don't make a habit of bringing strangers into my house so wouldn't even consider inviting them in.


  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A house mate of mine invited them once - they kept coming back asking to speak to her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Hownowcow wrote: »
    Mormons selling the bible?

    Mormons are Christians are believe the Bible to be a sacred text.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    My Dad is Mormon, so they usually say "Hey Joe! Didn't know you lived here!" Then they come in for a bit and we talk about music, movies, whatever. They know the deal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    I just tell them I'm not interested in whatever they are peddling. Why waste your time and theirs pretending you give a shít what the other has to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.


    Dont the Mormons wear bullet proof underpants or something equally zany?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,766 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Not as bad as those god damn Movementarians


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Dave_Power


    honestly they arent out to get your money
    (i dont think)
    but then they told me if u join u have to donate 10% of your earnings to their church. in fairness to the 2 lads, they were lovely, and i told them not to push their religion on me, i was interested in their lives and where they came from


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    I know a lot of Chilean Mormons,of varying degrees of faith,and never have I been preached to or proletyzed to.

    Like the OP,I met other mormons before and explained to them that I would not be taking leaflets or such,and after that we chatted about sport for 20 minutes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭HurtLocker


    Dave_Power wrote: »
    i no im gonna get slated here
    its ok
    im pissed and ready for it, anyway they knocked on my door today and out of boredom and curiosity i invited them in, i told them i had no interest in their religion but i was open minded in what they had to say. jesus when i asked how many times they got invited inside for a cup of tea or in my case a can of "soda"
    i was shocked to hear that one of the guys wasnt ONCE invited into an irish house in nearly 6 months,
    give these poor lads a break. they have to go on some misssionary duties for 2 years of their lives to some weirdo country, the 2 guys i had were from utah and new zealand, they arent any harm to no one, they dont look for money, they are doing it because they want to do it
    dont slam the door in their faces, treat them with respect and give them an irish welcome.

    what do you do when you get the guys with the suits and the big badges selling the bible to you
    lol.

    They believe in nonsense why waste my time listening to their sh*t


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    If I went around houses the midwest USA stating that god didn't exist I wonder if I'd get much of a welcome.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Sunglasses Ron


    Am I the only person in the world who has never encountered a Mormon, Jehovahs Witness or TV Licence man at their door in their life?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    Dave_Power wrote: »
    dont slam the door in their faces,
    Totally agree.
    Dave_Power wrote: »
    treat them with respect
    You should treat everyone with respect.
    Dave_Power wrote: »
    give them an irish welcome.
    **** no.

    Dave_Power wrote: »
    what do you do when you get the guys with the suits and the big badges selling the bible to you
    Basically, I politely tell them I'm not interested and that I'm actually in the middle of 'doing something'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Am I the only person in the world who has never encountered a Mormon, Jehovahs Witness or TV Licence man at their door in their life?
    :eek:

    I've scored the hat trick!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,987 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    What's the point in asking them in and wasting their time ?
    How's that a courtesy to them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭Hownowcow


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Mormons are Christians are believe the Bible to be a sacred text.

    Thank you. I did not know that they regarded the bible as such.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Dave_Power


    with an open mind you'd never know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    Hulk Hands wrote: »

    Yeah we all watch South Park and have seen that episode. Thank God you're around to remind us it exists.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Dave_Power


    they belive in all the stuff we believe in
    but the weird part is some guy translated their bible for them about 200 years ago, so theres differences to the catholic bible and the morman bible,
    im not sure of those differnces yet though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Dave_Power


    Hulk Hands wrote: »

    i told them about the south park episode but they said they never say it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    Dave_Power wrote: »
    they belive in all the stuff we believe in

    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,214 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Moromons don't imbibe caffeinated drinks so by not inviting them in for tea Irish people are actually respecting their religion!

    I worked with a mormon guy who told me this. I pointed out to him that the chocolate and coke he consumed both had caffeine. :D He was stumped.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Dave_Power


    elaborate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    What's the point in asking them in and wasting their time ?
    How's that a courtesy to them?

    Their goal is not simply to convert everyone they meet, much of the time they'd just be happy to make others aware of their church to combat what they see as a widespread misunderstanding surrounding their beliefs.


    Although, as much as they might deny it, the Book of Mormon is a racist and bigoted text.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Dave_Power


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Their goal is not simply to convert everyone they meet, much of the time they'd just be happy to make others aware of their church to combat what they see as a widespread misunderstanding surrounding their beliefs.


    Although, as much as they might deny it, the Book of Mormon is a racist and bigoted text.

    is our own religion not the same
    catholics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Dave_Power wrote: »
    is our own religion not the same
    catholics

    It is.



    It's worth noting that I'm an atheist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    I was unemployed but then I found the Book Of Job.

    Sorted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,987 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Their goal is not simply to convert everyone they meet, much of the time they'd just be happy to make others aware of their church to combat what they see as a widespread misunderstanding surrounding their beliefs.


    Although, as much as they might deny it, the Book of Mormon is a racist and bigoted text.

    Do they not essentially believe that their salvation is achieved by converting souls to Mormonism? So they're here to save their souls.

    Of course they'll be polite if you ask them in for a chat, so will the guys who sell Eircom alarms etc at your door. However at the end of the day they're all hoping you'll fall for the sales pitch and they know that people lonely enough to ask them in for a chat are probably low hanging fruit. They'll be hoping you just need a soft soak and a bit of friendliness before you see the light.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Dave_Power


    i just think that there isnt a bad bone in their bodies, they arent there to push there religion on anyone, but maybe they are told to " spread the word"
    i mean they deserve a bit more respect than a slam in the door kind of mentality


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    plus they can do your family tree for you.Since they convert people after their death,so TS seachmall,on your passing you will be a mormon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Do they not essentially believe that their salvation is achieved by converting souls to Mormonism? So they're here to save their souls.

    Of course they'll be polite if you ask them in for a chat, so will the guys who sell Eircom alarms etc at your door. However at the end of the day they're all hoping you'll fall for the sales pitch and they know that people lonely enough to ask them in for a chat are probably low hanging fruit. They'll be hoping you just need a soft soak and a bit of friendliness before you see the light.

    Yes, ultimately they want to steal save your soul, but they also want to educate people about their church as they don't have the best track record when it comes to PR.

    Making people understand that they're not the racist pseudo-Christian cult that they're often portrayed to be will benefit them in the long run.

    Before you win souls you must win hearts and minds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭Vito Corleone


    They come uninvited to people's houses where they preach about their religion. That, in my mind, is pushing their religion on someone. I wouldn't literally slam the door in their face but I'll say what I have to say to get rid of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭AngeGal


    Do they not essentially believe that their salvation is achieved by converting souls to Mormonism? So they're here to save their souls.

    Yep, they also 'baptise' the dead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    Speaking to a man with a masters in Theology he told me that Mormons out of all christian religions dont lose faith as when they go from door to door for 2 years they see nothing but rejection. And then living in the middle of nowhere in Utah with no fun doesnt seem as bad.

    Personally I have no time for that "religion" as if you read about its beginnings and founder the one thing that comes to mind is BS. Plus the church openly spread hate against gay people only recently stopped spreading hate against "the blacks".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭jjbrien


    Yeah we all watch South Park and have seen that episode. Thank God you're around to remind us it exists.

    Heres another thing from the writers of South Park the funnest musical I have ever seen :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Maudi


    Dave_Power wrote: »
    i no im gonna get slated here
    its ok
    im pissed and ready for it, anyway they knocked on my door today and out of boredom and curiosity i invited them in, i told them i had no interest in their religion but i was open minded in what they had to say. jesus when i asked how many times they got invited inside for a cup of tea or in my case a can of "soda"
    i was shocked to hear that one of the guys wasnt ONCE invited into an irish house in nearly 6 months,
    give these poor lads a break. they have to go on some misssionary duties for 2 years of their lives to some weirdo country, the 2 guys i had were from utah and new zealand, they arent any harm to no one, they dont look for money, they are doing it because they want to do it
    dont slam the door in their faces, treat them with respect and give them an irish welcome.

    what do you do when you get the guys with the suits and the big badges selling the bible to you

    D'ya know what.the next time they call im gona do the same as you..lads..i dont want to listen to your waffle but would you like to come in for a cup of non denomonational tea?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,987 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    Dave_Power wrote: »
    i just think that there isnt a bad bone in their bodies, they arent there to push there religion on anyone, but maybe they are told to " spread the word"
    i mean they deserve a bit more respect than a slam in the door kind of mentality

    Ah yeah I agree with you completely, they always seem nice, and they do honestly believe they're sharing something wonderful with you.

    I just personally feel I am being more respectful by politely telling them I'd only be wasting their time conversing with them about Mormonism. I am friendly and nice about it though.

    I knew a guy who was over here on a Jehovah mission once and he was lovely. He never mentioned anything about his faith in the 2 years I knew him, I only realised about it one day after 20 months of knowing him when I was mid way through my "sorry but my souls not up for grabs" speech at the door to some jehovahs when I noticed he was the quiet one in the back.

    That was an awkward moment I must admit. "I'm sorry, I'm just not interested...oh...hi... what are you doing here?...ohhhhh you're not here to see me,you're ummm doing this....that's umm great ....I didn't recognise you with your suit on there haha...but am yeah still not interested...but see ya later!!!" *cringe*
    We never mentioned it again and he remained lovely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Dave_Power


    i didnt see any harm in them anyway, they were 2 very interesting people. one of them from new zealand and the other from utah.
    yes of course they tried to tell me their word of God, and i listened out of respect, but i can tell you i asked alot more questions and talked alot more than they did


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    jjbrien wrote: »
    Heres another thing from the writers of South Park the funnest musical I have ever seen :)


    I agree 100%! Loved how the Mormon church had 3 full page ads in the programme "seen the show? now read the book" :D


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