Golf Lab reports and reviews?

TheDoc

Has anyone any experience of using the Golf Lab in Dublin, for a putter custom fit?

I had two vouchers for there that expired, completely forgot to use them. I have been toying with the idea of getting my putter checked and tweaked if required. €65 all in sounds like a decent deal tbh.

http://www.golflabdublin.com/index.php/putter-custom-fitting

Anyone used the service before and got any recommendations ?

e.r

I got a 3 lesson deal . First lesson I was told my stroke was perfect according to there monitor and software etc.
I never went back as found it useless

spacecoyote

Found it interesting myself. Only went for lesson & not a fitting.

Highlights any swing flaws in great detail, which I had plenty of

Terrible isn't it when you hit an out to in swing with driver but naturally swing in to out with the putter

Don't think they ever mailed me on the output from my lessons is the only down I can think of.

Plus side is my putting stroke is definitely better now than it was!

rollotomasi

I went for a lesson and thought it was pretty good - it definitely gave me some stuff to work on. Will go again for a top-up.

ImDave

e.r wrote: »

I got a 3 lesson deal . First lesson I was told my stroke was perfect according to there monitor and software etc.
I never went back as found it useless

e.r - who did you have your lesson with there? Very strange to be told you had a perfect stroke as I don't think that is ever the case.

e.r

I think his name was Dave not 100% thou , it was in park west .

As I said he told me impact was sweet spot most times and putting arch was very good too . Did really give me anything to work on...

I was playing of 21 at the time and was really hoping that it would help me drop stokes . So much so I did not return for my other 2 already paid for lessons .

TheDoc

I had put in a booking online but unfortuantely they were closed for the week. He was diligent in giving me a mail to organise a new time etc. but then I went out that weekend and was **** hot, so have put the custom fitting to one side for the time being.

I wouldn't really be interested in lessons, I'm not sure how someone could give putting lessons tbh. It is the most important thing to your game, and it is the easiest stroke to make well. Obviously some people have issues with coming out to in, in to out, etc etc but it's SO easy to correct its scary to see people with off arc strokes.

Putting stroke is something you can practice in the home. Grips and styles make zero difference, its a straight back straight through action. My Da is terrible for changing putters and how he holds the club. It literally doesn't make a different on your putting grip style ( as in with your hands) some people use one way as its more comfortable, others use different grips because it " keeps the clubhead straight" it is literally all bollox. Your making a tiny movement back and forward.

Youtube is riddled with good videos, once you ahve the setup down ( pendulum movement ) your laughing. Reading greens isn't something you can be taught imo, something you need to feel .

spacecoyote

TheDoc wrote: »

I had put in a booking online but unfortuantely they were closed for the week. He was diligent in giving me a mail to organise a new time etc. but then I went out that weekend and was **** hot, so have put the custom fitting to one side for the time being.

I wouldn't really be interested in lessons, I'm not sure how someone could give putting lessons tbh. It is the most important thing to your game, and it is the easiest stroke to make well. Obviously some people have issues with coming out to in, in to out, etc etc but it's SO easy to correct its scary to see people with off arc strokes.

Putting stroke is something you can practice in the home. Grips and styles make zero difference, its a straight back straight through action. My Da is terrible for changing putters and how he holds the club. It literally doesn't make a different on your putting grip style ( as in with your hands) some people use one way as its more comfortable, others use different grips because it " keeps the clubhead straight" it is literally all bollox. Your making a tiny movement back and forward.

Youtube is riddled with good videos, once you ahve the setup down ( pendulum movement ) your laughing. Reading greens isn't something you can be taught imo, something you need to feel .

The lessons weren't really about technique in any way though. He didn't try to make me change my grip or anything like that.

The put you on the Sam lab (i think thats what it's called) which will show you any arc, deceleration, length of back swing relative to through swing, etc.... Then give you a couple of simple drills to try straighten out any issues

big_drive

TheDoc wrote: »

I had put in a booking online but unfortuantely they were closed for the week. He was diligent in giving me a mail to organise a new time etc. but then I went out that weekend and was **** hot, so have put the custom fitting to one side for the time being.

I wouldn't really be interested in lessons, I'm not sure how someone could give putting lessons tbh. It is the most important thing to your game, and it is the easiest stroke to make well. Obviously some people have issues with coming out to in, in to out, etc etc but it's SO easy to correct its scary to see people with off arc strokes.

Putting stroke is something you can practice in the home. Grips and styles make zero difference, its a straight back straight through action. My Da is terrible for changing putters and how he holds the club. It literally doesn't make a different on your putting grip style ( as in with your hands) some people use one way as its more comfortable, others use different grips because it " keeps the clubhead straight" it is literally all bollox. Your making a tiny movement back and forward.

Youtube is riddled with good videos, once you ahve the setup down ( pendulum movement ) your laughing. Reading greens isn't something you can be taught imo, something you need to feel .

Don't some of the best putters in the world have arc swings? So it's not really as simple as straight back and through as you suggest

TheDoc

big_drive wrote: »

Don't some of the best putters in the world have arc swings? So it's not really as simple as straight back and through as you suggest

When I say straight back straight through I mean as in the line, rather then out to in and in to out.

Maybe I'm horribly out of touch, but I'm pretty sure there is only one way to putt and do it well

big_drive

Get what you mean now thanks!

Benny Cake

TheDoc wrote: »

When I say straight back straight through I mean as in the line, rather then out to in and in to out.

Maybe I'm horribly out of touch, but I'm pretty sure there is only one way to putt and do it well

Tiger Woods has always putted on an arc. Only time his putter is square to the target is at impact.

TheDoc

spacecoyote wrote: »

The lessons weren't really about technique in any way though. He didn't try to make me change my grip or anything like that.

The put you on the Sam lab (i think thats what it's called) which will show you any arc, deceleration, length of back swing relative to through swing, etc.... Then give you a couple of simple drills to try straighten out any issues

Well consider why people change their putting grip. Why do you change style, cack handed, fingers down the grip, wrap arounds, claws, all the different types.

In most cases the new, weird feeling helps amateur players get the clubhead back square and of the sweet spot for a good contact and roll. Over time though when it becomes comfortable, it's back to square one as the bad habit resurfaces.

As I said you can have any grip you want, it makes no difference, I genuinelly believe that you could put with 10 different styles. I myself have about three I can use, I stick mostly with one, but could easily use two others. The point being that the posture, stroke and movement are the most important.

The style of grip is really just to get something you feel comfortable and confident with, different styles dont give different results. I'd imagine that is why there was no comment made on your style of grip.
I'd be weary tbh of a coach changing a putting grip in order to resolve an issue, unless it was blatantly bad.

Worth re-iterating when I say grip, the way you hold the putter with your hands, not the grip as in the grip attached to the shaft. That is something that can make a big difference for various players. I use standard but have been considering a thicker grip for better feel.

TheDoc

Benny Cake wrote: »

Tiger Woods has always putted on an arc. Only time his putter is square to the target is at impact.

Everyone uses an Arc stroke at long distances, but most players will use a straight from makable distances.

Tiger is a bit of an exception to be fair, Arc'ing from within kinda 10feet is ridiculously difficult to maintain and the straight stroke is surely the more common stroke utilised in golf.

Interesting discussion going anyway on here.

@Spacecoyote, what drills did you get to do? Maybe it's a case of expectations that has you disappointed, you might have been handed some quality drills.


for anyone maybe thinking "what the hell is an arc" this picture below shows it well. You can see that through the stroke the clubhead is promoted to be square, but it kinda "arcs" on the way back, and on the follow through.

You could make an aid like this very easily, I have one myself but it's to promote a straight stroke. Few minutes on it during the week, it's amazing how over time it becomes natural.
Also worth noting this promotes a good follow through, which is critical. I'm haivng a nightmare with my Da at the moment. He "boxes" his putts, so he kinda stops the stroke just at impact, which is horrible, no control and no feel or roll. Follow through is so important, get's you that good roll and makes sure it stays on line.




*Above pic credited to Ian Clarke golf

spacecoyote

Think we are both arguing the same point really here. I agree that all you want is straight back & through & grip should be whatever allows you to do that.

From my experience, that is all they are trying go do, get you swinging with a pendulum stroke straight back & straight through.

Some people need a bit of guidance & a couple if drills to get there so I don't see any problem with someone getting a putting lesson from them. And having a pro tell you something is right can instil more confidence in the player to stick with something

Sorry doc, think my tone of post might have caused confusion. I was happy with lesson & drills, didn't want to change grip, etc...

main drills,

1 - line up putt and have an extra ball just off a straight line on my back swing so if I took it back inside I would hit the ball, forces you to take the putter back straighter.

2 - I had a slightly long back stroke, so similarly have a ball or something behind the club which means you have to stop the back swing short of it & accelerate your through stroke to generate the power.

Think they were the main focus

TheDoc

aaaa ok, was getting the vibe that you weren't happy with the drills and instruction you got, and that maybe you expected them to give you a grip style to suit

Benny Cake

TheDoc wrote: »

You could make an aid like this very easily, I have one myself but it's to promote a straight stroke. [/SIZE]

Me too..

TheDoc

I'm not lieing when I say that mine is a leg from a table

gypsy79

Are these guys gone does anyone know? I used vouchers from there and found them very useful