Will RVP still be king of the strikers at the end of the season

shadowcomplex

This summer has seen an influx of top strikers come into the epl , city have bagged negredo and joeivic , spurs bony and Norwich wolfswinkel, already here are aguero and suarez , I would add dzeko and Hernandez to the list but they just dont play often enough , so will Rvp remain king or will he be eclipsed this year , out of interest who has bagged the better player spurs or city between soldado and negredo ?

Johner

I predict Rooney to score 30 goals! For Chelsea of course.

Hank Scorpio

If Suarez ends up at Arsenal I think he`ll be top scorer, their style of play would make him even more lethal. Could say the same if Rooney ends up at Chelsea

Bounty Hunter

shadowcomplex wrote: »

This summer has seen an influx of top strikers come into the epl , city have bagged negredo and joeivic , spurs bony and Norwich wolfswinkel, already here are aguero and suarez , I would add dzeko and Hernandez to the list but they just dont play often enough , so will Rvp remain king or will he be eclipsed this year , out of interest who has bagged the better player spurs or city between soldado and negredo ?

Spurs didn't sign bony that was Swansea iirc. For some reason I always put negredo and sold ado on the exact same level quality wise... If someone said name a striker around as good as 1 of them I'd name the other thankfully that happens less than you'd think

Rooney could be a beast at Chelsea if he went there, same for Suarez and arsenal but his ban will keep a metaphorical crown away

Jax Teller

nuxxx wrote: »

If Suarez ends up at Arsenal I think he`ll be top scorer, their style of play would make him even more lethal. Could say the same if Rooney ends up at Chelsea

Even with him being suspended for the first 6 games ?

Rooney at Chelsea if he goes. He'll bag them the title or go very close to doing so

Hank Scorpio

Jax Teller wrote: »

Even with him being suspended for the first 6 games ?

Forgot about that, would make it hard alright.

gandalf

RVP has the ability to stay on top but United were lucky last year as he didn't have any major injury problems.given his injury history at Arsenal I would say there is a good chance he could miss a portion of the coming season.

dreamers75

Has Rooney ever been top scorer in the PL?

Game time vs chances created = top scorer.

RVPs 1st full uninjured season and he was top scorer.

Jose teams not known for attacking football, but Drogba scored for them.

Michu or Soldado for me depending on game time vs chances created by their teams

Johner

dreamers75 wrote: »

Has Rooney ever been top scorer in the PL?

Nope, he got 26 one year and was level with Drogba going into the last day and Drogba scored a hatrick(threw a hissy fit over a penalty as well!)

I think he got 26 or 27 a few seasons back aswell but RVP got 30 for Arsenal.

Liam O

gandalf wrote: »

RVP has the ability to stay on top but United were lucky last year as he didn't have any major injury problems.given his injury history at Arsenal I would say there is a good chance he could miss a portion of the coming season.

He's barely missed a game in 2 seasons. There's obviously a chance but it seems to be behind him for the most part.

Vurnon San Benito

ricero

I could well see sturridge bang them in plenty if he stays fit for most of the season

The_Kew_Tour

Sturridge top goalscorer???????????????????????

lol

woof im a dog

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Sturridge top goalscorer???????????????????????

lol

what are you lolling at

according to wiki he has 10 goals in 14 apps

not bad for someone who joined in 2nd half of season

The_Kew_Tour

woof im a dog wrote: »

what are you lolling at

according to wiki he has 10 goals in 14 apps

not bad for someone who joined in 2nd half of season

He wont be top scorer.

mike65

The top scorer will be the player who has both a good season and also is the undisputed No1 striker at their club. Any side with two or three top guys (who all stay fit) will suffer I think

Augmerson

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

He wont be top scorer.

He could very well be in the top 5 goalscorers, has really done well in a short time at Liverpool, think he was a great buy.

The_Kew_Tour

Augmerson wrote: »

He could very well be in the top 5 goalscorers, has really done well in a short time at Liverpool, think he was a great buy.

Difference between both.

Augmerson

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Difference between both.

Yeah, so why don't you think he won't be top scorer?

klose

Negredo/jovetic/aguero/dzecko will all eat into eachothers playing time so neither will be top scorers/best im league. Would go with soldado if he stays fit

Blatter

If Rooney leaves, Javier Hernandez wouldn't be a bad e/w bet @ 66/1.

Frankie Lee

A less ****e team around him and after having a year to settle into English football he should still be improving.

jive

Augmerson wrote: »

Yeah, so why don't you think he won't be top scorer?

I want to chime in on this one.

1) He's not as good as a lot of strikers in the EPL such as Aguero, Benteke, RVP, Rooney, Dzeko, Torres, Jovetic, Soldado, Lukaku, Suarez, Michu, Berbatov or attacking midfielders such as Bale, Hazard, Lampard, Cazorla

2) He makes decisions which make Walcott look like he has the footballing brain of Iniesta

3) Clubs like United, Chelsea, City and Arsenal are likely to create more goalscoring opportunities and score more goals than Liverpool

He's 20/1, I'd back him if I thought he was going to be top goalscorer. While stranger things have happened, there are far better players in the league and if they hit form they will leave him for dust. You can argue that he's better than some of the players in my list which is fair enough but I don't see him or Liverpool making any great shapes this season and it's usually a club that does well who possesses the top scorer. Most likely RVP or Aguero, add Rooney in the mix if he goes to Chelsea and Suarez if he goes to Arsenal.

Corvo

Extremely hard to see past Robin Van Persie again. Two injury free campaigns and 56 Premier Leagues goals playing for two different sides in those seasons? He is the best finisher in the league by a long way I think and if Man United can finally put a in-form Shinji Kagawa in behind him (or in fact keep Rooney there) then I see no reason why he won't rack up a similar tally to last season.

People will point to Luis Suarez enduring a ban last season which no doubt reduced his own tally, but Van Persie went through a terrible drought at one stage too.

So Van Persie for me, closely followed by either Suarez or the surprise package - Soldado, who I think could be absolutely fantastic.

LuckyLloyd

Augmerson wrote: »

Yeah, so why don't you think he won't be top scorer?

Because the tailend of last season was an outlier exception in terms of his career to date, not the rule. In order for him to be top scorer he would require an unprecedented career season. Would love to see it happen, but my fellow pool fans are expecting an awful, awful lot from him (and Coutinho). Should be more careful...

GavRedKing

dreamers75 wrote: »

Jose teams not known for attacking football, but Drogba scored for them.

Doesnt his Real Madrid team hold the record for most goals in La Liga?

Anyway, If we dont sign Rooney I'm going to throw money on Lukaku e/w.
17 for WBA last year, if hes the number 1 striker then he should go close to or eclipse that record given the chances the guys behind him will create.

His only problem is if he doesnt hit the ground running he'll be axed for Torres/Ba. Torres wont start against Hull, Spain have a friendly in Ecuador and he should be only coming home early on Friday prior to the Sunday k/o against Hull, so between Ba and Lukaku I'd be picking Lukaku every day of the week.

Xavi6

Tempted for a sneaky each way bet on Dzeko, 7.6 at the mo with Betfair.

The_Kew_Tour

Augmerson wrote: »

Yeah, so why don't you think he won't be top scorer?

Cause he not good enough.

Happy to throw hundred on it if anyone likes.

GavRedKing

Xavi6 wrote: »

Tempted for a sneaky each way bet on Dzeko, 7.6 at the mo with Betfair.

Dzeko 33/1 on bet365, Lukaku @ 25/1 or Rooney @ 14/1 is where my money will probably go though.

1/4 odds e/w to 4th placed.

Neil3030

#He scores when he waaaaants

#He scores when he waaaaaaAAAAAaaaaaannnnts

#Christian Bentekeeeeee

#He scores when he waaaaants!

:pac:

Oranage2

Id be surprised if chelsea start the season with the current strike force, whoever the bring will be a good shout.

The new spurs guy too has a chance, but ultimately RVP will be the stand out favourite.

Pepe LeFrits

Xavi6 wrote: »

Tempted for a sneaky each way bet on Dzeko, 7.6 at the mo with Betfair.

What are City looking like lining up with under Pellegrini? I'd like to put a City striker into my FF team, but am too scared as there are so many to choose from...

audman

Corvo wrote: »

People will point to Luis Suarez enduring a ban last season which no doubt reduced his own tally, but Van Persie went through a terrible drought at one stage too.

A drought though, he was still playing. Which means at any time no matter how bad he was playing or how long the drought lasted it was possible for him to bang in a goal or two. Obviously Suarez couldn't do so as he was banned so I don't think comparing the two is of much relevance.

That said, I hope you're right I'd rather see Van Persie score 100 and Suarez getting banned for.. hmmmmm we'll say.. the season Yes I'm a Liverpool fan and his move away is probably inevitable Suarez FTW.

Rooney if he's at Chelsea would be a good shout. I'm not too sure what to think of Soldado's chances. Would it suit him better if Bale were to leave? It probably would in terms if him being a target man but would Spurs have the team to create enough chances for him without Bale?

Blaaaaah...

Xavi6

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

What are City looking like lining up with under Pellegrini? I'd like to put a City striker into my FF team, but am too scared as there are so many to choose from...

Pellegrini usually plays with two up front so my guess is Aguero/Jovetic and Dzeko/Negredo, one of each. Aguero isn't match fit and Dzeko has been excellent in preseason so by process of elimination I'd guess Dzeko and Jovetic for day one.

The other option is to play it safe and put Navas in, assist machine (hopefully).

Pepe LeFrits

Xavi6 wrote: »

The other option is to play it safe and put Navas in, assist machine (hopefully).

Already there...

everdead.ie

As a spurs fan I expect any new striker to be a flop :pac:

No seriously I doubt he'll be close to RVP as he has to settle into a team and RVP already has experience in the league and a pretty good idea how to play with his team mates already.

Red Crow

Navas had 6 assists in La Liga last year. I don't see him doing better than that this year.

Xavi6

Eli Manning wrote: »

Navas had 6 assists in La Liga last year. I don't see him doing better than that this year.

Created the most chances from play in La Liga so the problem was on the end of his crosses/passes. Negredo profited but that was about it whereas at City he'll be feeding better players.

I'm expecting 10+ tbh.

Dont be at yourself

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Because the tailend of last season was an outlier exception in terms of his career to date, not the rule. In order for him to be top scorer he would require an unprecedented career season. Would love to see it happen, but my fellow pool fans are expecting an awful, awful lot from him (and Coutinho). Should be more careful...

I take your point and largely agree, but it's not quite the outlier that it appears. It actually corresponds quite neatly to his return from the only other time he got a run of games in a team as a striker:

Bolton: 12 appearances, 8 goals (1 goal every 1.5 games)
Liverpool: 14 appearances, 10 goals (1 goal every 1.4 games)

To go back to the original question; smart money is on Soldado for me. The undisputed main striker in a team that will create and score a lot of chances.

astonaidan

Ive said it before, but if Chelsea dont sign a striker Torres will top score.

COYVB

Benteke, unless he gets injured for any major length of time, will score for fun again this year - most likely almost all of villa's goals too

Hulk Hands

Xavi6 wrote: »

Tempted for a sneaky each way bet on Dzeko, 7.6 at the mo with Betfair.

Please say that's a typo and you meant 76 and not 7.6

Xavi6

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Please say that's a typo and you meant 76 and not 7.6

No, 7.6 to finish top four.

Hulk Hands

Xavi6 wrote: »

No, 7.6 to finish top four.

Ah right, that would be a place bet so as opposed to an e/w bet. You'll get more from the place part of e/w with 365 at 33's, although you're naturally forced into a win bet (33's win still doesn't seem too bad)

Only bit of value I can see is the 22's e/w with Hills on Soldado, who's goal scoring record if quite exceptional recently and should be a definite starter. He's also likely to take the penalties i'd assume? Bale leaving would also be a help, but that's surely an odds on shot at this stage. I'd be surprised if Soldado is 22's come the start of Sept

Corvo

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Ah right, that would be a place bet so as opposed to an e/w bet. You'll get more from the place part of e/w with 365 at 33's, although you're naturally forced into a win bet (33's win still doesn't seem too bad)

Only bit of value I can see is the 22's e/w with Hills on Soldado, who's goal scoring record if quite exceptional recently and should be a definite starter. He's also likely to take the penalties i'd assume? Bale leaving would also be a help, but that's surely an odds on shot at this stage. I'd be surprised if Soldado is 22's come the start of Sept

Yeah I think @ 22/1 Soldado is a great bet. I don't think there will be too many scoring highly this year (RVP / Soldado / Suarez)

Pure Sound

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Only bit of value I can see is the 22's e/w with Hills on Soldado, who's goal scoring record if quite exceptional recently and should be a definite starter. He's also likely to take the penalties i'd assume?

Spurs didn't get a single penalty awarded to them last season so I wouldn't be relying on that

Jarrod

Anelka at 80/1. Don't think he'll be top scorer but worth a small e/w bet.

GavRedKing

Jarrod wrote: »

Anelka at 80/1. Don't think he'll be top scorer but worth a small e/w bet.

I dont think Anelka has ever gotten over 20 league goals anywhere hes gone, while he does get a decent return I'd be very wary of throwing any money on him really, even if its only for an e/w bet.

Nuri Sahin

Goldado's odds have gone down so. Was 28/1 the moment he signed. Good stuff.