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Social welfare question

  • 07-08-2013 2:14pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9


    Hi there,

    It's my first time on job seekers allowance so am pretty new to the whole thing. Basically I just got my first payment recently but i have been offered work for the next two weeks. The work is only for two weeks so do i sign off and back on again when finished or just write a letter to social welfare explaining this?

    any help much appreciated!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Hi there,

    It's my first time on job seekers allowance so am pretty new to the whole thing. Basically I just got my first payment recently but i have been offered work for the next two weeks. The work is only for two weeks so do i sign off and back on again when finished or just write a letter to social welfare explaining this?

    any help much appreciated!!

    Social Welfare and Job Seekers are different things.

    If on Social Welfare you will be required to pay back everything you made while working and work expenses are not allowable so you could end up working and actually have less in your pocket.

    Job Seekers allow you to earn €20 a day for 3 days to a maximum of €60, over payments will be deducted, or payments stopped until over payment is recouped.

    Job Seekers may reevaluate your case and take your earnings and spread them over 52 weeks, so it shows up as income even if you only get the holiday relief work and nothing more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Clareabu123


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    Social Welfare and Job Seekers are different things.

    If on Social Welfare you will be required to pay back everything you made while working and work expenses are not allowable so you could end up working and actually have less in your pocket.

    Job Seekers allow you to earn €20 a day for 3 days to a maximum of €60, over payments will be deducted, or payments stopped until over payment is recouped.

    Job Seekers may reevaluate your case and take your earnings and spread them over 52 weeks, so it shows up as income even if you only get the holiday relief work and nothing more.

    Thanks for that, so basically if i work and stay on social welfare they will just stop paying me until i have paid back what they gave me while I was working?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Clareabu123


    oh and as well is does anyone know is there any way of getting in contact with social welfare offices via email rather then phone?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    Call into your local office,there will be forms to fill in if your working part time,if it is full time work you need to sign off when you start work https://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/secure/CloseClaim.aspx.

    When the work is finished get your p45 and sign back on,it will be a continuation of your claim rather than a new one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I went into my local welfare office and asked what would happen if I got a few weeks work a while ago.
    I was told that they can suspend your payment for up to 8 weeks when you take up paid employment and this does not become a new claim - ie they won't be looking for bank statements ect.
    You need to call into them and tell them you have got work for the next two weeks.
    Once your work is finished you go back to the office and let them know that you are finished the work you have done.
    They will then arrange your payment to start up again.

    I have not done this but I hope the above is of help to you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭eastbono


    If the work is only for two week call into your sw office and let them know as your claim should only be payment suspended for such a short period of time. When you are finished working after the two weeks be sure and bring a letter from the employer stating the date you started and finished and payment suspended will be lifted and the days you worked will be "blocked" so you wont get payment for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Thanks for that, so basically if i work and stay on social welfare they will just stop paying me until i have paid back what they gave me while I was working?

    You would be best to call into the office to sort it out

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 sushi1


    Hi can anyone help me. I have applied for job seekers allowance and have went for an interview with the social they have told me that a welfare officer might call out to the house which is fine. What I want to know is that my daughter who is working full time often stays with me a couple of nights a week will this effect me getting welfare, is she allowed to live with me or will they take her wages into consideration. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭Balagan


    Only the means of a spouse, civil partner or cohabitant are taken into account for the means test plus, if an applicant is under 25 and living with parents/step-parents, they would be assessed for benefit and privilege on the parents/step-parents' income. Details here: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/means_test_for_social_welfare_payments/means_test_for_jobseekers_allowance.html Your daughter's earnings will not affect your JA payment but as she stays with you a number of nights during the week it would be helpful and speed things up to have your daughter's PPS No. to hand for the social welfare inspector.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 deco2222


    I've been out of work since December following surgery. I have only now received an appointment to be means tested for disability allowance. I know all my wife's income will be taken into account but I was self employed up until December for the last ten years. What outgoings and expenses are considered in the means test. At the moment we have more outgoings than income and have to borrow from friends to make ends meet. Up until my surgery I was working and paying tax and prsi for over thirty years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭eastbono


    If by outgoings and expenses you mean mortgage payments, utility bills etc. then none of this is considered for means testing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 deco2222


    The means test is only a farce so.At the moment we have to borrow from family to get by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 esterpaiva


    hello my friend have a question to make she have 2 kids age 10 and 4 different father ..she always live alone she do get one parent alone she is seen a guy for 8 months she is thinking in move together he work 30 hours a week she is afraid of losing her social welfare payment and be with out any money and have to be depending of him for everything


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Portsalon


    esterpaiva wrote: »
    hello my friend have a question to make she have 2 kids age 10 and 4 different father ..she always live alone she do get one parent alone she is seen a guy for 8 months she is thinking in move together he work 30 hours a week she is afraid of losing her social welfare payment and be with out any money and have to be depending of him for everything


    Presumably she is currently getting the payment called one parent family payment from the Irish taxpayer?

    If so, then one of the rules for being eligible for this payment is that you cannot "be living with a spouse, a civil partner or cohabiting" So yes, she will loose that payment.

    But if her latest partner is on low income, then the household may be eligible to get a Working Family Payment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭utyh2ikcq9z76b


    esterpaiva wrote: »
    hello my friend have a question to make she have 2 kids age 10 and 4 different father ..she always live alone she do get one parent alone she is seen a guy for 8 months she is thinking in move together he work 30 hours a week she is afraid of losing her social welfare payment and be with out any money and have to be depending of him for everything

    She is better off not having him stay full tine


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